Ioan Gruffudd & Alice Evans #215 Gossiping is not illegal but breaking your DVRO is.

[Lulugrace]

It's 4.53am in LA and AE is posting shite. What makes her think we want to meet her anyway?

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Seriously I'd rather eat my own feet than meet her....the arrogance, is next level.

Hey Socks and FMs, none is us want to meet mAlice, not now, not ever! Why would we want to be anywhere near that bad energy.

Sincerely,

Tattle Turds
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I feel left out. I never get a Twatter screenshat.

Haha, give it time!
Oi New Lips, help a girl out

 

[Whodofthunk]

Alice, I would just like to say, very plainly and truthfully, that I do not have any erotic thoughts about you in any way, shape or form. If I did find myself harbouring such thoughts, I would swiftly take myself off to the nearest hospital for an MRI as I would’ve probably hit my head very hard on a concrete surface.

I was thinking the same. I've been reading on here for two years and the only time I felt a quiver in my loins was the picture of Ioan coming out of the ocean. Alice, is desperate for anyone to find her appealing. It's a pass for me.

 

[maggie72]

At some point after a bad break up, you come to make peace with things so you can move on with your life. Are you over it completely? Probably not. Does it hurt that maybe you don’t have answers or even know the full reason why? Yes. But you cannot let it consume you for so long.

Alice and the sock accounts () are the ones unable to let it go. When the sock and even Alice have said ‘why don’t he just tell me…’ he did tell her all that she needed to hear. After he left the marriage he did not owe her any additional explanations. He owes her nothing, emotionally. Just like she doesn’t owe him anything emotionally. Would she suddenly become reasonable if he did admit that Bianca was on the scene earlier or whatever it is she thinks happened? Absolutely not!

 

[Bridgeofsighs]

I'm sure Alice has already planned for them to be earning money in modelling etc to support her - with her being the "momager" - she doesn't need encouraging in this plan....

Don't worry about that. She's far too lazy to be a momager.

Ella is only 4 years away from being an adult and only has a very poor role model in her life. I hope the school are recognising what is going on here. After all, we do and we're not in loco parentis.

 

[Snotbuster]

Yes. Shoes need to match outfits. They look stupid if the don't.

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Match or power clash. Even with a power clash outfit, there still needs to be some thread of coherence that makes it an outfit rather than random clothing/accessories. Alice suffers from incoherence in so many ways.

 

[JoJo76]

Don't worry about that. She's far too lazy to be a momager.

Ella is only 4 years away from being an adult and only has a very poor role model in her life. I hope the school are recognising what is going on here. After all, we do and we're not in loco parentis.

Bring on Dr Dupree! Will there be any publicly available documents on the assessments from her and GAL?

 

[IHateHadargoyle]

Children who have just turned 14 should be able to just be children.
They shouldn't have to work to support their lazy arsed mother.
They shouldn't have to deal with adult problems.
They shouldn't have to offer to be their parents' therapist.
They shouldn't have to bring court cases against people and appear in front of judges.
These are adult things.
They should be enjoying being children - being with their friends and doing normal teenage things. Childhood is so short.
I'm sure Alice has already planned for them to be earning money in modelling etc to support her - with her being the "momager" - she doesn't need encouraging in this plan....
MOO

I would say what is wrong with a 14 year old babysitting once or twice a week for pocket money? It can pay really well and it’s fun to have your own money. That said I doubt anyone would feel comfortable hiring her after all that has gone down. And yes it’s all on mAlice.

 

[welp]

At some point after a bad break up, you come to make peace with things so you can move on with your life. Are you over it completely? Probably not. Does it hurt that maybe you don’t have answers or even know the full reason why? Yes. But you cannot let it consume you for so long.

Alice and the sock accounts () are the ones unable to let it go. When the sock and even Alice have said ‘why don’t he just tell me…’ he did tell her all that she needed to hear. After he left the marriage he did not owe her any additional explanations. He owes her nothing, emotionally. Just like she doesn’t owe him anything emotionally. Would she suddenly become reasonable if he did admit that Bianca was on the scene earlier or whatever it is she thinks happened? Absolutely not!

I find this whole Bianca thing mad: Kevin Costner's ex immediately got a boyfriend a few weeks after she filed in may (their date of seperation was listed as 11 april, so pretty recent). Did Kevin Costner went on a twitter rant about how obviously she must have left him for that new dude and how that's somehow giving him the permission to rant about her non-stop? And almost every celeb divorce is like this: somebody will have in a matter of weeks somebody new, that's just how things are, because everyone that has met said celeb before and developed some crush on them will try to hit on them pretty quickly (I suspect Bianca did the same, no matter if he cheated with her or not)

Alice herself claimed she was facetime-dating a rich exec a few weeks after Ioan filed. Heck, she wanted a boyfriend before he even discussed seperating. 99 % of all actors cheat (and both are likely among them), this really should be waaaaaaay down on the list of priority here. But since this is the only point that doesnt work against her (though since Ioan filed that transcript of her wanting a boyfriend even this is no longer working in her favour) she focuses entirely on this. It's also the only thing which with she can rally support behind her, as those kind of people often then choose to ignore everything else since "evil man cheated" is all they care about.

 

[Snotbuster]

For crying out loud. I started babysitting for the neighbors when I was 12. I got an after school job at 14. Made money to buy what I wanted, got out of the house, worked with nice people, and had a sense of satisfaction at the end of the day. Millions of 14 year olds work. Why the hell not?

A job, or drama club, or other school club, would give a kid a chance to develop as a person away from a smother mother. Just a few hours a week away from AE, with people who can show a kid how unnatural her home life is could be good.n

 

[EllaBella89]

I was thinking the same. I've been reading on here for two years and the only time I felt a quiver in my loins was the picture of Ioan coming out of the ocean. Alice, is desperate for anyone to find her appealing. It's a pass for me.

I won’t deny she was relatively attractive as a younger woman (if that’s your kind of thing, and I can see why it isn’t for some people) but knowing she’s started to look on the outside how rotten she is on the inside - abusive, narcissistic and just a general all round tit bag, I find it quite frankly ridiculous that she would think anyone would be obsessively lusting after her.
Mmm yeah Alice, come kick my door down baby!

 

[IHateHadargoyle]

Seriously I'd rather eat my own feet than meet her....the arrogance, is next level.

Hey Socks and FMs, none is us want to meet mAlice, not now, not ever! Why would we want to be anywhere near that bad energy.

Sincerely,

Tattle Turds
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Haha, give it time!
Oi New Lips, help a girl out

Yes, mAlice we all have the hots for you. Not! Even if I wasn’t heterosexual I would prefer cleaning a men’s restroom.

 

[Whodofthunk]

For crying out loud. I started babysitting for the neighbors when I was 12. I got an after school job at 14. Made money to buy what I wanted, got out of the house, worked with nice people, and had a sense of satisfaction at the end of the day. Millions of 14 year olds work. Why the hell not?

When my folks split neither wanted me or older sister. We were sent to live with my grandmother in her small town. My sister and I both worked at their only grocery store. Priced items, rang people up, fried chicken, etc. I was 14 and I kind of enjoyed it. We got a discount so I spent most I earned on food to bring home so my grandmother didn't have to cook. She worked full time besides putting up with us. Good memories though.

 

[Bridgeofsighs]

Yes, mAlice we all have the hots for you. Not! Even if I wasn’t heterosexual I would prefer cleaning a men’s restroom.

Isn't it more likely her motley crew of middle aged bitter FMs have the hots for her than us turds? AE is unintentionally hilarious. Does this mean that these threads are Alice porn? That's some weird new fetish.

 

[scantysandwich]

Children who have just turned 14 should be able to just be children.
They shouldn't have to work to support their lazy arsed mother.
They shouldn't have to deal with adult problems.
They shouldn't have to offer to be their parents' therapist.
They shouldn't have to bring court cases against people and appear in front of judges.
These are adult things.
They should be enjoying being children - being with their friends and doing normal teenage things. Childhood is so short.
I'm sure Alice has already planned for them to be earning money in modelling etc to support her - with her being the "momager" - she doesn't need encouraging in this plan....
MOO

I do agree except for the work part. It’s just my own experience but working at 14 (a few hours a week in a safe environment) was brilliant for me in terms of a bit of pocket money, meeting people outside my bubble, gaining independence, learning the value of money and how to present myself. That job gave me so much confidence to continue to work and learn new skills.

I have always worked since age 14, all through my schooling, university and postgraduate qualifications and have ended up ahead of many people my age. This isn’t to brag but just to say that life is about experiences and they don’t always fit neatly into child / adult. The journey from child to adult is happening at 14 and I think a few hours a week of work (or at least volunteering) could be very good for Ella. My school actually encouraged us to volunteer at that age and there were many placements to choose.
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Don't worry about that. She's far too lazy to be a momager.

Ella is only 4 years away from being an adult and only has a very poor role model in her life. I hope the school are recognising what is going on here. After all, we do and we're not in loco parentis.

You also need to be able to maintain trusting relationships and conduct yourself professionally as a Momager. Alice could never.

 

[Nixlondon]

Isn't it more likely her motley crew of middle aged bitter FMs have the hots for her than us turds? AE is unintentionally hilarious. Does this mean that these threads are Alice porn? That's some weird new fetish.

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Alice was completely obsessed with Donald Trump and tweeted daily. So she obviously had a weird semi-erotic obsession with him, then? Coz, you know, according to Alice people don't bother to talk about somebody they dislike intensely or feel embarrassment for.

 

[Bridgeofsighs]

The journey from child to adult is happening at 14 and I think a few hours a week of work (or at least volunteering) could be very good for Ella.

I agree totally. Ella has been taught to threaten, abuse and lack empathy by Mommy Dearest. She pushed about and insulted a disabled woman and then took her to court as if Bianca was the abuser. I think volunteering at a senior centre or hospital would be very good for Ella. The less time she spends in the company of AE, the better.

 

[NarcRage]

I agree on the rest, but I disagree on the work thing. Whether it's at 14 or 16. Earning your own pocket money is a great step in adolescence (tbh where I live it's super common). There is nothing traumatizing about earning a few bucks over babysitting, pet sitting, tutoring, garden work, etc. (or as I said simply not needing yourself a babysitter or somebody that cleans the house anymore). It's rewarding and broadens your mind which is particulary important if you have been suffering from Narc abuse/isolation and if you have been taught to not appreciate where the money you live off comes from.

But I guess it's also fair to say that her attending at least school is a first step. The second step should be to treat her father with at least basic respect, which she hasnt since spring 2021.

But I agree that it's way more likely that Alice will push her into teenage modelling (most celeb kids only do these kind of "jobs" because the usual jobs are peanuts for them), which is just the exact wrong step for a young girl.

I did various jobs from 12 - gardening, paper round and Saturday job at 14 and spent money on things my parents refused to buy me (eg a Frankie Goes to Hollywood Relax T shirt). I agree working is good for kids to give them independence. But not if they think they have to because they are 'poor' and can only afford second hand clothes because their father abandoned them to spend his money on his girlfriend - which is how it will be spun.

Trying to encourage a work ethic, When my son was 12 I offered him £1 for every item he ironed. I came home from work. He had taken every piece of clothing out of the wardrobes and ironed it. Literally had ironed non stop for hours. Cost me near on a hundred pounds!
I did my own ironing after that.

 

[IHateHadargoyle]

The thing I really can’t get over is just how mentally exhausting she must be to deal with in real life. She’s bad enough from afar, but imagine dealing with her tormenting you constantly with puerile insults and incessant attention seeking. I would’ve launched her out the window when she was playing up with that hair drying bonnet on her head. You could see how drained Ioan was in the video

Same! I swear Ioan has the patience of a saint which of course is one of the reasons she latched onto him like a damn leech.

 

[Bridgeofsighs]

If AE says in court

"I have screenshots of Ioan's army of trolls suggesting that baybee Ella should get a Saturday job. THIS IS CHILD ABUSE. Ioan wants to abuse Ella by forcing her to work because he doesn't want to!!!! I suppose Ella's pay will be used as an excuse to deny me my, I mean their CHILD SUPPORT. Therefore I should have 100% custody to stop this child abuser in his tracks!"

I don't think this is too farfetched tbh. I will die laughing if it happens.

 

[Lulugrace]

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So there is the predictable pearl clutching after I said Ella should get a job. AE would prefer her to do a GFM like she did or start begging in the street (same thing essentially) to try and embarrass IG. Work really is a 4 letter word in that house. You'd swear I suggested Elsie should become a chimney sweep LOL

Alice we need new content - stop relying on us to give it to you! You're boring and predictable AF

Oh seriously, NL can duck off!
I had a Saturday job at 14. I didn't even go to uni, I went straight into work at 17; I hated school, plus my mum refused to work, so I had too. Tbf, I haven't done too badly, considering what i now do for work. I was probably the last generation to get away with working without a million degrees etc.
Both kids will have to work when they are old enough to, and more likely than not, a normal job (clutches pearls in shock!). I had friends that had weekend jobs, and their parents were fairly wealthy, but they wanted them to understand the value of money.

MAlice should be leading by example and showing those girls how to be independent, instead she's still rolling about on the floor tits akimbo FOR 3 YEARS! Has wasted a fuckload of money, that she could of had, by bleeping around in court. Now the kids are having to go through loads of therapy, because of her vindictiveness.
I was going to say something else, but a client called and lost my train of thought!