Ioan Gruffudd & Alice Evans #148 Malice and the 102 Ailments

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sevenyearbiatch said:
Weird that he’s insisting on reunification therapy, that you seem so resistant too, if he doesn’t want a relationship with his daughters? And that he’s filed for joint custody … Odder and odder …

And I thought you said the girls were so happy Big Al? And that they hate him and don’t want anything to do with him? That you all wish he’d just leave you all alone? Where are those pesky receipts now …
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Yes, it’s the Ioan doesn’t want them narrative this week. It’ll change again next week!
 
Did you guys notice how she blames "perfect husband" Ioan for her fibro btw
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welp said:
This wouldnt be a he said/she said tbh, Ioan could just deliver the actual messages and prove that he did nothing. If Alice is any smart she wouldnt even try to open that can of worms because in terms of communicating with trolls that abuse the other party and trying to gather private information of them she is the worldwide #1

I mean Alice (and Loopy) spun out of the fact that Ioan is grateful for his fans (for his career!) that he approves of the "abuse" Alice gets. This is all online theatrics (Alice's own court room) rather than for the actual court, though I can imagine Alice trying to convince her lawyer to use it, but just like Leon they will want to save their reputation lol
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If you go over to the dark side and look at current convos have you noticed that their narrative has changed all of a sudden and it’s all the girls deserve both parents, and i’m working hard for the girls to see their Dad etc and at the same time it’s L&D have fucked over Ioan by admitting they are in contact with him and therefore he is culpable for the trolling, (oh dear, you’ve royally cocked up now Ioan and here was me doing my Motherly best, sort of thing.)

Something is going on (perhaps she’s asked Loopy to come over and defend her 😬)

 
Is it just me or is she hinting that Lin/Deb were set up by Ioan from the start to entrap her and their whole "friendship" with Alice was a ploy by him from the outset?

I mean seriously Alice? You're going to have to come up with more believable lies than this.
 
welp said:
However, what is certainly true is that Ioan should keep firmly away from them. They are just as bad influence as Alice was. And I'd worry for his judgement that after everything what happened he isnt seeing that (I'm sure Alice loves this, because it shows her that she can get back into his good books). You can accept apologies but if he said this whole "you are also victims of Alice's abuse" thing he is nuts: As stupid as Alice's fans are. almost none of them was as nasty as Lin was and plenty of her supporters kept the abuse towards Ioan at a moderate level. No one makes you do anything, it's up to you to decide what's the decent thing to do.
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I completely agree with you that no good can come from a continued relationship with them on Ioan's part. He is well shot of them.

It's very gracious of him to have accepted their apology after all the nasty things they said. As for ongoing contact, until I see emails or texts from Ioan, I'm going to take any talk of I/B/L/D now being best pals with a MASSIVE grain of salt. Anything else is just speculation.
 
Nixlondon said:
The reality is she will never lose custody. She may not be a good mother, but unless she is physically beating them, physically neglecting them and can be proven to be completely incapacitated on a daily basis via drugs/alchohol she won't lose custody. She has not been accused of abusing her children by Ioan or by the courts. Unfortunately, being a lazy, denigrating, nasty piece of tit and abusive to your ex is not grounds to remove children from their parent. I do wish that this was not constantly posited as a possibility. Even with severe parental alienation the California courts rarely remove the child from the alienating parent as it would cause trauma for the child and is not in the best interests of the child - instead the courts focus on re-unification therapy - and the likelihood of this working while the alienation continues is limited. Alice is in those children's lives for 50% of the time (or more if he leaves LA for work) regardless. Unfortunately the damage is done and the realistic prospects are they will make overtures to their Dad once they have left home, have some distance and can see what their mother has done. Until then, I am sorry to say, their relationship with Ioan (and Bianca) is likely to remain rocky. Ioan may in fact be forced to go no contact with one or more of them.
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It’s just tragic, isn’t it? This 1950s-style nuclear family nonsense the courts like to enforce allow hideous abuse to continue. (Such is the case in the UK, where the shadowy family courts have insisted that domestic abusers and rapists have contact with their children, and the woman be damned. I’m not equating Malice with *those* kinds of abusers, though.) I just hope that IG has put aside enough money for the girls’ - and his - future therapy.
 
ReturningthePearls said:
I agree so hard I want to hug you. This type of tit STICKS through the course of one’s life—it does NOT magically dissipate and usually requires some pretty intensive therapy and cautious introspection/evaluation of inner belief and values and behavioral tendencies in any relationships they form.

Lately I’ve been examining my “daddy issues,” and they’re finally noticeable to me and very bad. I’d recently been getting close with a man seven years older than me; I’m attracted to older men, particularly 5-10 years older. When I get into arguments with him I behave childishly—not tantrums or whining but crying easily and hiding myself away and awaiting “fatherly” consolation. I LIKE being bossed around; he’s a wonderful person, the softest soul, but like everyone else he has a fuse, and when he gives me firm instruction after I’ve annoyed him, it feels so warmly familiar to me; in certain situations, and in the weirdest of ways, it’s a turn-on, being told what to do, being handled verbally roughly.

This is a REALLY vulnerable post because I’m afraid some are going to read this and be like, “Oh that’s weird maybe you’re subconsciously in love with your abuser-father???” I feel like a broken being when it comes to intimate interpersonal situations. I still haven’t fully dissected these feelings, and I plan to talk to my therapist about them a little bit tonight. But it’s so apparent to me now how my father’s abuse—the fear, the resentment, the CPTSD, etc.—how it all lends itself to the ways in which I engage with men, specifically. (I’m bisexual, but I don’t feel this way towards women.) It’s a MESS of trauma that only at age twenty-nine I am FINALLY understanding is problematic.

As you said, my Autisteuse, those girls need help. They need it badly and they need it NOW. Their relationship problems may not mirror mine, sure, but the abuse that went on in that household will absolutely impact the ways in which they feel it’s appropriate to engage with others. It’s all internalized toxicity. It’s hard to disrupt. And it’s hard to even NOTICE. And I don’t want them to be almost thirty years old like me and suddenly realize that something is wrong. One of the most difficult things my only-BRIEF-boyfriend ever said to me as I cried was, “God, (my name), you’re just so fucked up. I don’t know what to do. You’re just so fucked up.” I don’t want either of those children to ever feel that crushing hurt.
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Sorry for rambling about sad/weird stuff. If it’ll make you smile a little: I was so unprepared for one of my final projects that when I got up in front of the class I broke down crying like a nine-year-old, and so my professor pulled me aside and was like, “You don’t have to do it.” I wasn’t trying to be manipulative at all but you should have seen how fuckin relieved I looked. Three finals to go, then. ✨
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Bless you, Pearls. And congratulations on such self-enlightenment: it can really hurt to examine one’s behaviour and make one so vulnerable, as raw as a newly-peeled twig. It takes a great deal of courage to engage in that kind of introspection. Brava - really and truly.
I hope that all goes well with your therapist - it should: you’ve made such a massive breakthrough. Good luck on your exams! Xxx
 
welp said:
Did you guys notice how she blames "perfect husband" Ioan for her fibro btw
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We need a FFS! emoji. We know that she can control herself when she has too. The way she keeps pushing boundaries like this is so infuriating. IG must really have the patience of a saint to put up with her never-ending BS solely for the sake of his girls and then she has the nerve to keep pushing the "he doesn't want his kids" narrative. Alice honey, if IG didn't love and want his kids in his life you wouldn't see him for dust!

I think we all get impatient and frustrated sometimes when it looks like IG is letting AE get away with this tit, but can you imagine the tightrope he is walking, trying to protect himself and his career, trying to protect BW, trying to protect the girls and rebuild a healthy relationship with them, and all the while having to endure a lot of AE's abuse so he doesn't alienate the girls more or have them lose her altogether. He's having to play the long game for the girls sake and the amount of patience, strength and fortitude that must be taking is enormous.
 
D&L really think they’re Ioan’s pr? duck that. How would they be getting him a job?
Still think it’s all too performative to be real. There’s no way they turned on Ioan so quickly and with so much venom to now be anti-Alice. She abused those girls and Ioan and they enabled and encouraged her. duck them.
 
M33L4 said:
The dolly fucker (not literally) doesn’t understand basic law. A court case isn’t always necessarily a criminal case. I will never understand how and why these people put themselves out there to bay for Alice who so clearly lies. Open your bleeping eyes.
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BIB: you sure about that?!

(I know the Antonio Banderas part doesn't really fit, but the other gifs for blow up doll were actually pretty shocking, even for me.)
 
I btw like that Loopy is repeatedly implying with respect to both D&L and Ioan that them giving Alice advise she doesnt like is "abusive" and "controlling"

Does he not realize that his "do it or else I come after you" tweets towards Ioan is actually...you know...that, just a lot worse, and actually threatening/abusive :ROFLMAO:
 
welp said:
Lol Loopy managed to spin D&L's "Ioan cares for his fans" as him aproving of abuse against Alice, I didnt thought that he could become even dumber 🤣

The betrayal and abuse of trust inflicted on @AliceEvansGruff continues at the hands of two individuals many Alice supporters know as Deb and Lin. These individuals used their position of trust with Alice to try and control Alice's actions in a manner that just happened to to coincide with the well documented agenda of Alice's two primary abusers which is of course to bully Alice into silence. These women went to Alice as "friends" and when Alice would not comply with their demands they clearly decided to switch sides replete with knowledge that they gained in their position of trust. So I ask all survivors to consider how you would all feel if people that you trusted went over in support of the person that has been abusing you after convincing you to share your most personal pain and vulnerabilities amidst attempts to control your responses and actions. I know how I would feel.

It is also very relevant that this pair are giving a shout out to ALL of Ioan's "fans" for the support they have been giving him. Very interesting. We all know that Alice has been subjected to a ruthless campaign of bullying and misinformation at the hands of Ioan supporters that include making a false complaint to the CA police that resulted in Alice's children being pulled from their beds. The same children who are living a life of austerity and deprivation while their father galivants around the globe with his offsider in tow living the high life for all to see. Based on what the treacherous twosome are coming out with in their message it seems very evident that Ioan is well aware of what his "fans" are up to and the obvious inference is that he is grateful for their efforts. Those efforts being the constant attempts to denigrate and abuse the wife that Ioan has been attempting to dispose of like unwanted trash. He evidently supports people who are actively trying to interfere in the lives of his own children to their detriment and significant distress. All of this after all is the "support" his Stan base has been providing. What these people are doing is evil, abusive and vile. These people are defilers and thugs. It is that simple and the actions of these two individuals in question are nothing short of treachery most vile. For a survivor there are few things worse than a false friend. May shame be theirs forever.

For your information, Loopy: Ioan - unlike Alice - is a serious actor with fans that largely dont care about his personal life, but for his career. I get that this is hard to take, I bet it's also hard to take that Ioan is doing red carpet interviews with zero reference to his divorce, his public persona is not about his divorce (unlike Alice), but about his acting career, and thus largely his connection to his fanbase will be about that, and to a very minor aspect also about them believing him instead of abandoning him in favour of his abusive ex-wife (shame on those people btw)

Meanwhile Alice has outright thanked her fans for abusing Bianca and Ioan (y)

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Or, you know, thanking you for all the defamatory tit you write for her like a good boy :ROFLMAO:
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What bleeping world do these people live in?? How can you be this divorced from reality?? Bianca has the kinetic fanny but does AE have some sort of contagious virus that melts the brains and the ethics of everyone who interacts with her??
 
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