Huw Edwards #11 BBC Presenter Scandal

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didisaythatoutloudoops said:
I'm old enough to remember the days of page 3 of the Sun when they were showing 16 year olds topless. I know it was a few years ago but it's largely the same people in charge - and I find this outrage they seem to display over this 17 year old quite disingenuous.
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Scarlet Howes, the reporter who broke the story, is in her mid 20s I believe. She won’t remember the topless pics of 16year olds in the sun. Should she not have reported the story when the parents contacted her, because the paper she writes for (one of several) once printed salacious pictures? The logic doesn’t make sense.
 
Merpedy said:
Multiple people here have talked about the effects of this, including their experience with HE, on the young person. The fact is that if they’re estranged and are struggling with a drug addiction, the parents having more of the story released with possibly sensationalised details is not going to be helpful at all

There’s also this automatic assumption that the parents are doing what is best for the child. We don’t know their relationship with their child and how healthy or unhealthy it is and there is the possibility that they’re estranged for good reasons unrelated to this alleged drug addiction or that the drug addiction itself is connected to a poor relationship with their parents.
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I would say that a lot of addiction stems from self medicating to handle trauma. That said, I don’t know nearly enough about this family to make that call.
 
SendReceive said:
Why do you think that they have no right to talk about their own experiences if it is done anonymously and without revealing any information which could lead to their son being identified?

Do you think Huw Edwards should have the right to leak his experience to try to spin things in his favour? If so, why should the parents not have a right to give their version of events?
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It's the child who should be telling the story, not the parents. Huw Edwards, the alleged perpetrator - his alleged victim. The alleged victims are not the parents, so the comparison is moot.
 
pommobear said:
I also have a close relative who is an addict and I know from experience how bleeping damaging and wounding it is to your relationship when you try to "save" them. They have to actually want the help. Force it and it only gets worse and worse.
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They've essentially staged an intervention on a national scale. And if they were worried about HE's money funding the addiction, what do they think will happen when they take that finance away. There is a big danger of the young person turning to even riskier behaviour
 
pommobear said:
I also have a close relative who is an addict and I know from experience how bleeping damaging and wounding it is to your relationship when you try to "save" them. They have to actually want the help. Force it and it only gets worse and worse.
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Not for everyone. I have experienced the opposite with a family member.

I'm edited to add that I misread your original comment as 'forcing a relative to get help'. Rather than what you actually said which was specifically about addiction. My relative had a mental health issue and we had to intervene.

I'm sorry I read the comment wrong. I agree, with addiction you can't force anyone to get help.
 
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Jwren said:
I don’t know the relationship they had with their child before he was on drugs to say what is likely. Or if he was ‘encouraged’ to tell the press it was all rubbish.

It’s also not likely to go well if their son stays on crack and just maybe that money will go towards helping him come off it.
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Agreed. I said exactly the same

Huw Edwards #11 BBC Presenter Scandal

Oh god, the final death rattle of Piers Moron spaffed all over TV, just what the world needs to see. Why can't he just go do one.
tattle.life
 
pommobear said:
I never said that it was. But I feel entitled to have my opinion on this subject, as everyone else on this thread does too. It doesn't make me an abuse apologist.

My parent didn't go into "battle" for me. They didn't listen to me about what I *knew*, at that point, was the right way to go about doing things (btw, I was right, the fact they went to the police had catastrophic consequences on several levels). They didn't trust that I, as an adult, knew what was best. They were thinking of themselves, their own feelings, not me or mine.
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I haven't at any point said you are not entitled to an opinion. This is a discussion forum.

My point was that everyone's experience is different.

Edited to add... and I definitely didn't suggest you were an abuse apologist. How did you get that from my post?!
 
pommobear said:
It's the child who should be telling the story, not the parents. Huw Edwards, the alleged perpetrator - his alleged victim. The alleged victims are not the parents, so the comparison is moot.
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You haven’t really answered the question.

Why do the child’s parents have no right in your view to talk about their own experience? As long as it is done anonymously and doesn’t identify their son?

The parents are not necessarily ”victims” of Huw Edwards, but they potentially are “victims” of a complacent and apathetic BBC. They’re perfectly entitled to give their version of events if the BBC has given timelines of their version of events in dealing with their complaint.
 
Jwren said:
I don’t know the relationship they had with their child before he was on drugs to say what is likely. Or if he was ‘encouraged’ to tell the press it was all rubbish.

It’s also not likely to go well if their son stays on crack and just maybe that money will go towards helping him come off it.
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If the son really is on crack, and the addiction was caused/exacerbated by his interaction with HE, it would look better on the BBC if they helped fund his rehab.
 
SendReceive said:
You haven’t really answered the question.

Why do the child’s parents have no right in your view to talk about their own experience? As long as it is done anonymously and doesn’t identify the child?
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Because their own experience is piggybacking off the back of their child's, who doesn't seem to want it out there, and I expect there will be people out there who already know who they are. Don't tell me that a three part interview series isn't going to contain any kind of information at all about their child?!
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MateLikeMe said:
In which way are the parents profiting? The Sun explicitly stated that they had NOT received payment for the story.
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They're being paid for a three part interview with TalkTV, read the thread.
 
SendReceive said:
You haven’t really answered the question.

Why do the child’s parents have no right in your view to talk about their own experience? As long as it is done anonymously and doesn’t identify the child?
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The point I was trying to make was that speaking about their experience would be one thing. But that isn’t what TalkTV are going to want out of this because a personal family matter isn’t what the public are interested in. They will be taken advantage of, and their child’s story will be taken advantage of. That is wholly unethical on the part of the media involved.
 
MateLikeMe said:
In which way are the parents profiting? The Sun explicitly stated that they had NOT received payment for the story.
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Not from the Sun. But nothing has been said at all about TalkTV.

Huw Edwards #11 BBC Presenter Scandal

Idk if it’s foreseeable that your behaviour is going to be the top story for several days and that your nudes (real or fake) are going to be leaked everywhere It really is. Not for us, but for a famous newsreader, yes.
tattle.life
 
MateLikeMe said:
In which way are the parents profiting? The Sun explicitly stated that they had NOT received payment for the story.
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Has this actually been confirmed? The way the original line of that was worded did leave open the possibility that they could have still been paid for that story, we also don’t know if the Sun may have paid for the further stories/responses they published concerning the parents

If it’s not been confirmed that they have not been paid by The Sun it’s very 50/50 imo
 
Sandor said:
The point I was trying to make was that speaking about their experience would be one thing. But that isn’t what TalkTV are going to want out of this because a personal family matter isn’t what the public are interested in. They will be taken advantage of, and their child’s story will be taken advantage of. That is wholly unethical on the part of the media involved.
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You’re condemning a TV programme which you haven’t even seen yet. Were you one of those who condemned Brass Eye’s Paedogeddon without even watching it?
 
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