Estee Lalonde #9 Hen Solo - May the Farce by With You - if it's still on...

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The constant crying in vids is such a bad look and unprofessional. It’s ironic how she keeps trying to move away from being a YouTuber, but she keeps doing stuff like this that actually boxes her into being a YouTuber.

Forget unprofessionalism, she wants to be a mom some day (and theoretically wants to get a partner) and she’s posting stuff like this??? This will absolutely backfire.

She has zero ability to think long-term and always goes on impulse.
 
Estee has spoken about wanting children for a while now. Didn't she speak about freezing her eggs in a vlog last year? I haven't watched this latest vlog, but think she was looking into it back then. I think it's one of the reasons she pushed Normie into proposing: he wanted to have kids ASAP but she said she wanted to be married before she had kids.

She also spoke about having kids on the Grace Beverly podcast, saying she was prepared to do it on her own if her ultimatum hadn't worked out. I'm sure she even went so far as to say it might just be easier for her to do it on her own (?!) Guess it's not looking so easy right now.
 
Shutterbug99 said:
Estee has spoken about wanting children for a while now. Didn't she speak about freezing her eggs in a vlog last year? I haven't watched this latest vlog, but think she was looking into it back then. I think it's one of the reasons she pushed Normie into proposing: he wanted to have kids ASAP but she said she wanted to be married before she had kids.

She also spoke about having kids on the Grace Beverly podcast, saying she was prepared to do it on her own if her ultimatum hadn't worked out. I'm sure she even went so far as to say it might just be easier for her to do it on her own (?!) Guess it's not looking so easy right now.
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Yes that I heard, she started talking about fertility and kids about a year or year and a half ago if I recall correctly, but before that she never really mentioned it much. The first time I heard her mention kids was when she was in some store and saw tiny little shopping carts and said how cute they were and that she wants 3 kids, I was like holy tit 3?? HAhaha... so that stuck in my memory, once she got closer to her ultimatum she started mentioning it more. But never really in her 20's and the whole time she was with Aslan, I really can't recall her talking about that.

Altho in the Beverly podcast/video she kept contradicting herself, she said that she wants to be married before having kids, that it's important to her and she doesn't really know why but it is, but then she said that it would be easier to have a kid without a man... so which is it Estee?

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Well guess he life got easier then, chick is all over the place
 
I feel like she's going to be that type of parent who says "there's no right way to be a parent" and "happy [mom/dad], happy baby" and "stop [mom/dad] shaming" and "as long as the baby is fed and clean, you're doing great."

Those phrases only apply to parents who don't put themselves first (which is how it should be). Estee will ALWAYS put herself first. That's the key difference.

Estee will never be a content or stable person... so it'll be an endless toxic cycle of her misusing and overusing those phrases as an excuse for her selfish decisions and bad parenting. Just like how she uses the excuse of "self care" every time she does something sh*tty like canceling at the last minute. She's the type of person who frankly should listen to constructive criticism from outside sources.
 
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Parenting is hard, I mean I struggle and feel like an impostor sometimes while still doing everything I can from when I open my eyes to when I am finally allowed to go back to sleep. There are a bazillion reasons why someone would want a child, just curious what hers is, genuinely super curious.
 
Shutterbug99 said:
Estee has spoken about wanting children for a while now. Didn't she speak about freezing her eggs in a vlog last year? I haven't watched this latest vlog, but think she was looking into it back then. I think it's one of the reasons she pushed Normie into proposing: he wanted to have kids ASAP but she said she wanted to be married before she had kids.

She also spoke about having kids on the Grace Beverly podcast, saying she was prepared to do it on her own if her ultimatum hadn't worked out. I'm sure she even went so far as to say it might just be easier for her to do it on her own (?!) Guess it's not looking so easy right now.
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She’s planting the seed to get her egg freezing sponsored ;) I can see the vlog/tiktok already, ‘CoME wITh mE GEt mY eGgs FroZen 🤪’, I don’t need a man etc etc etc etc
Sell sell sell cry cry cry ibitha ibitha ibitha girl boss girl boss 🔄

Rinse and repeat! 🥱
 
Sincere question (sort of): Are any of us still silently rooting for her to get her tit together? I mean I assume not. Watching her just devolve into a more and more alienating person is like looking back on a relationship with a charming but crappy dude. You can see all the markers of shittiness along the way that signaled that they were a low-integrity busted scumbag but at the time it was such a slow drip of red flags that were mixed with goodness it was easier to be disoriented. Until it all culminated in them just being an undeniable proud sack of tit. There's like still the small impulse to want to want to root for her but there's just too much present day bullshit and in the past to justify it.

I just pity her because she's clearly unwell and with no path in mind for getting better despite all her immense privilege. I sincerely worry how she might unravel if she does have a baby in suboptimal conditions and experiences PPD.

I am so profoundly alienated by her "professional stress". witch nobody told you to make bath oil in an already saturated market. She has enough money, or had enough, to be cozily set for life if she played her cards right. I don't have sympathy for rich people who demand to be richer and bump into needless stress.
 
consumerism makes u free said:
Sincere question (sort of): Are any of us still silently rooting for her to get her tit together? I mean I assume not. Watching her just devolve into a more and more alienating person is like looking back on a relationship with a charming but crappy dude. You can see all the markers of shittiness along the way that signaled that they were a low-integrity busted scumbag but at the time it was such a slow drip of red flags that were mixed with goodness it was easier to be disoriented. Until it all culminated in them just being an undeniable proud sack of tit. There's like still the small impulse to want to want to root for her but there's just too much present day bullshit and in the past to justify it.

I just pity her because she's clearly unwell and with no path in mind for getting better despite all her immense privilege. I sincerely worry how she might unravel if she does have a baby in suboptimal conditions and experiences PPD.

I am so profoundly alienated by her "professional stress". witch nobody told you to make bath oil in an already saturated market. She has enough money, or had enough, to be cozily set for life if she played her cards right. I don't have sympathy for rich people who demand to be richer and bump into needless stress.
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Honestly no. After her insane ultimatum TikTok’s then popping up with a forced engagement to a dude she didn’t even like, then soft launching the split on instagram for weeks after her like 30,000 wedding registry had been sent to guests, then being sad for a few weeks and immediately making a party island her whole personality.… no I’m not rooting for her. Maybe she gets it together but she made her bed the second she cried on TikTok for a proposal
 
xoxogossip_girl said:
Honestly no. After her insane ultimatum TikTok’s then popping up with a forced engagement to a dude she didn’t even like, then soft launching the split on instagram for weeks after her like 30,000 wedding registry had been sent to guests, then being sad for a few weeks and immediately making a party island her whole personality.… no I’m not rooting for her. Maybe she gets it together but she made her bed the second she cried on TikTok for a proposal
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I occasionally feel a tiny bit of rooting for her but then I see her smug face in selfies or while getting her 10th luxury facial of the month and all care goes out the window. She simply is not a likeable person to me and I can’t feel sorry for someone who has so much money for so little effort in life.
 
She became so unpleasant and smug after the engagement blackmail worked, I don’t see myself rooting for her. I didn’t mind her early MirrorWater days, when she would cosplay as an office worker and bring treats to the MW office and make the girls hang out with her after work.
But when she got engaged, something changed. She’s always been one of the worst „I’m so busy, here, look at me having to go to a mani/pedi appointment, a cafe and the post office“ influencers - but that got even more annoying since last year.
And yeah, the fact that she clearly didn’t like her fiancée and genuinely planned to get married for shits and giggles.
 
Rosie34567-2 said:
The constant crying in vids is such a bad look and unprofessional. It’s ironic how she keeps trying to move away from being a YouTuber, but she keeps doing stuff like this that actually boxes her into being a YouTuber.

Forget unprofessionalism, she wants to be a mom some day (and theoretically wants to get a partner) and she’s posting stuff like this??? This will absolutely backfire.

She has zero ability to think long-term and always goes on impulse.
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The crying to me is a very ‘child like’ behavioural thing she has, you can tell she has always received attention if she does that ‘big blinks through the tears’ crying show for people and she knows it distracts them from the topic and they rush to focus on her.

What I mean is, bursting into tears in front of everyone and making no effort to take a moment to yourself and then come back once you’ve managed your emotions, it’s like something a child does because the crying is all they can do, they don’t want to face the actual topic, and they might learn it gets the kind of attention they want or very much need from someone who isn’t giving it to her— but somewhere along the way as Estee grew up she (1) didn’t learn emotional regulation, but (2) she still relies on this child’s way of acting where you can monopolize attention through performative crying and avoid real vulnerability or explanation.
(There are also racial dynamics to this that I won’t go into lol).

Add to whatever she learned worked for her when she was a child, she also spent her young adulthood online where showing emotion and being ‘vulnerable’ got you positive attention and validation.

But I also notice that when for example she broke up with Aslan, she did not want her emotions out there and kept herself in check almost to an absurd degree so she wouldn’t even mention him as she obviously didn’t want to be ‘emotional’ around the topic, because she felt about that in a different way.

However, her recent breakup prompts a video absurdly full of crying, including tearful thumbnail with KLEENEX lol. To me, in this situation that is leaning on the child like way of avoiding some sort of guilt or accountability. It says to me that she knows she’s done something wrong so she will go to what always works for her— a huge cry that she makes sure everyone sees and runs to comfort. Tears always get Estee her needed sympathy and attention and she almost knows people respond well to it. I mean, it’s not about the crying itself— it is where and when you cry. She’s not crying in her apartment or to someone close to her, she is filming herself and posting it.
 
I also have a problem with her hypocrisy re wanting kids.

Estee is someone who does not actually enjoy day-to-day life and seems to resent most things. But she STILL wants to bring a child into the world??? That cognitive disconnect and hypocrisy does not sit well with me.

By her own logic, she's essentially willingly making this hypothetical child suffer the same fate. Estee thinks most of life is suffering, therefore it would be peak selfishness to bring a child into this world. It's like she's already treating this child as a sacrificial lamb for her own happiness.

(I realize that sounded really dark and extreme lol. 😅 I'm just being hyperbolic to point out Estee's flawed logic).
 
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Rosie34567-2 said:
I also have a problem with her hypocrisy re wanting kids.

Estee is someone who does not actually enjoy day-to-day life and seems to resent most things. But she STILL wants to bring a child into the world??? That cognitive disconnect and hypocrisy does not sit well with me.

By her own logic, she's essentially willingly making this hypothetical child suffer the same fate. Estee thinks most of life is suffering, therefore it would be peak selfishness to bring a child into this world. It's like she's already treating this child as a sacrificial lamb for her own happiness.

(I realize that sounded really dark and extreme lol. 😅 I'm just being hyperbolic to point out Estee's flawed logic).
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Remember when she had all those people arguing in her Wedding Q&A video comment section ( that legit said almost nothing) about her hard rule of no kids at her wedding lol, god it even spilled over here, my fault too. I just through it was an odd thing to mention, just set that as a rule in private, whatever your life E, but she felt the need to film it and yap about it, always weird to see what she decides to share. If something is annoying or offensive to her and she needs to tell everyone. Must put it on blast.
 
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