English channel migrant crossing crisis #7
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monga
VIP Member
I condemn it all
especially your notion that people voicing concerns on issues affecting them is racist, it might surprise you to know there’s legal migrants ( of all denominations) that pay thousands for visas also condemn open border policies, it’s not exclusive to white people … shock , horror !NeverEnough
VIP Member
I thought London was a beacon of tolerance Pete?
Funny that you countered my post with what came across as a "What about the poor white people" post, then. Let's face it, most posts on immigration issues on social media usually end up boiling down to thinly veiled "I don't want foreigners over here" statements.I condemn it all
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Indeed it is for the most part. Just shows you what inflammatory rhetoric can do to embolden racists.
monga
VIP Member
Odd you assume that all those who voted for Brexit are racists?? I was pointing out it’s not just white people are racist it’s pretty common amongst all races. So you’ve only got sympathy for the non white victims?? Says more about you than those you point the “racist “ finger at.
Except I did not say that, did I, re all those who voted for Brexit? By your "logic", you not posting condemnation of the incidents I witnessed until I mentioned it means you only have sympathy for white victims.
The whole issue of immigration is contentious and it doesn't usually take long until someone drops the facade and comes out with statements that are racist or certainly phobic (such as Islamophobic) in some way. To negate the effect that the kind of rhetoric that Farage came out had on Brexit is not based in reality. That Breaking Point poster did much to stir up things, and he full well knows it. That's all he's good for, being a tit stirrer.
The whole issue of immigration is contentious and it doesn't usually take long until someone drops the facade and comes out with statements that are racist or certainly phobic (such as Islamophobic) in some way. To negate the effect that the kind of rhetoric that Farage came out had on Brexit is not based in reality. That Breaking Point poster did much to stir up things, and he full well knows it. That's all he's good for, being a tit stirrer.
monga
VIP Member
It doesn’t read that way to me!
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monga
VIP Member
They must do ? I see no link to Brexit and uncontrolled immigration as it never affected my part of the world .
Sunshine7209
New member
Losing the benefit of the Dublin regs when we left the EU was such a massive own goal in terms of managing asylum claims.
monga
VIP Member
How often was it used?
NeverEnough
VIP Member
I really don’t know what response you were expecting to an anecdotal story which took place eight years ago (the day after the referendum, and the day after that). Kudos to you for remembering that far back.
It put in in context in 2016 I was part of a task force bringing these animals to justice
Operation Sanctuary: Newcastle child sex network convicted
Vulnerable girls and young women were plied with alcohol and drugs and then forced to have sex.
www.bbc.co.uk
Organised sexual exploitation and industrial level rape of minors v hurty words on public transport. Pete your moral compass is severely fucked up dude.
Sunshine7209
New member
If the U.K. government didn't make better use of it that's a U.K. problem not an EU problem. Leaving the EU wasn't going to fix the fact that the government wasn't using the tools at their disposal, just took away some of the tools so that now they can't ever be used.
Plan was to negotiate return agreements with each individual country instead, guess how well that's worked out? Bottom line is that with the Dublin regs we could return asylum seekers who had passed through a safe country, now we can't.
Plan was to negotiate return agreements with each individual country instead, guess how well that's worked out? Bottom line is that with the Dublin regs we could return asylum seekers who had passed through a safe country, now we can't.
NeverEnough
VIP Member
Of course the Dublin regs were only effective if the migrant was fingerprinted somewhere in Europe, otherwise no proof no return.
Eurodac - Wikipedia
And if the French, or otherwise, authorities didn’t do that the agreement was worthless. Did you ever wonder why we couldn’t simply return all the people who jumped on the back of a lorry in Calais? After all unless they could walk on water, or flew directly, no single migrant could have reached the UK without passing through a signatory country first. These are the benefits of being an island on the far North West extreme in Europe.
And even when the system did work immigration grifters fought, and won, cases against third party deportation. Italy was considered “unsafe without reassurance”.
Upper Tribunal judgment on lawfulness of removals to Italy under the Dublin Regulations
Judgment was handed down today by the Upper Tribunal (Immigration and Asylum Chamber) in a judicial
www.wilsonllp.co.uk
And removals to Greece were suspended, and other countries were reviewed, because they had “inhumane” systems.
https://www.12ft.io/https://www.the...ec/21/home-office-loses-asylum-seekers-battle
From a source the Far Left believe is 100% reliable on all things
. So are our “closest and most important allies” nasty pasties to multiple asylum seekers or not? Because I thought all things EU made The Remnants go all weak with admiration.Conclusion? The Dublin Regs were, like most things EU related, about as effective as using a crisp packet as a condom.
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Interesting question. Now that Assad has apparently fled and been overthrown. (Key word apparently). Can we now start deporting the thousands of Syrian asylum seekers who were fleeing the regime for fear of retribution, before the inevitable arrival of 1000s of Assad supporters fleeing the rebels?
Assad is in Moscow after fleeing Syria and will be given asylum, Russian state media report
Russia was a key ally of Assad's regime - the former president and his family will now reportedly get asylum there.
www.bbc.co.uk
Woke Jihadi’s.
How Syria’s ‘Diversity-Friendly’ Jihadists Plan on Building a State
As the group consolidates control in newly seized Aleppo, its leader is seeking to allay fears among minorities, pro-Assad residents, and skeptical Western officials alike.
Ladies and gentlemen we are literally in The Twilight Zone.
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NeverEnough
VIP Member
The question on everyone’s lips?
It will duck even the most credulous minds of the usual suspects when both pro and anti Assad Syrians claim asylum in the UK. And they will. Theoretically a rebel Syrian torture victim could be placed in the same hotel as the pro-Assad policeman who tortured him.
And they will argue that both deserve asylum…..
One also wonders if those currently en route will turn around and return now Assad is safely in Russia, or will their political affiliations take a complete 180 degree turn around in the time it takes to cross the channel?
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Pete M
You can bore off with your usual BS of 'racism and xenophobia' towards those you don't like, usually those with right wing views.
From what I can openly see, there is plenty of 'racism and xenophobia' going on in left wing circles too.
There certainly seems to be plenty of 'racism and xenophobia' bandied around at Palestine matches, and towards Jewish people in general - by those on the left.
But of course, many on the left are so blinkered and self unaware in their views of 'racism and xenophobia'. As far as they are concerned, throwing around 'racism and Xenophobia' towards Jewish people is acceptable and 'fair game'.
They are happy to stand shoulder to shoulder with Muslims who openly spout 'racist and xenophobic' abuse to Jewish people. Without challenging this, or even joining in the hate.
However, when people stand up to this, they are labeled as the 'bigots, racists and xenophobes'.
So please, just bore off.
Until the left gets its own house in order, you are in no position to spout 'racism and xenophobia' to other individuals/ political groups you don't like.
You can bore off with your usual BS of 'racism and xenophobia' towards those you don't like, usually those with right wing views.
From what I can openly see, there is plenty of 'racism and xenophobia' going on in left wing circles too.
There certainly seems to be plenty of 'racism and xenophobia' bandied around at Palestine matches, and towards Jewish people in general - by those on the left.
But of course, many on the left are so blinkered and self unaware in their views of 'racism and xenophobia'. As far as they are concerned, throwing around 'racism and Xenophobia' towards Jewish people is acceptable and 'fair game'.
They are happy to stand shoulder to shoulder with Muslims who openly spout 'racist and xenophobic' abuse to Jewish people. Without challenging this, or even joining in the hate.
However, when people stand up to this, they are labeled as the 'bigots, racists and xenophobes'.
So please, just bore off.
Until the left gets its own house in order, you are in no position to spout 'racism and xenophobia' to other individuals/ political groups you don't like.
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NeverEnough
VIP Member
We are about to see the truth of Radical Islam when the new regime really get their teeth in to Syria. Iraq will be the template. After all weren’t the New Taliban all nice and cuddly when the US first left?
I will give the Syrian regime six months, a year at most, before they start firing rockets into Israel. And the Magic Roundabout of hate starts again. You cannot, will not, and never will be able to negotiate with religious extremists.
Pete is just a product of his belief system and clearly lacks the mental agility to even recognise the absolute contradiction at the heart of his beliefs. Perhaps he should really study the history of the Iranian Revolution to get a better understanding of what happens to the “left” when it allies itself with Radical Islam. Put it this way, there are no open Shahists in Tehran any more, but neither are there any open Radical Socialists, and you’re just as dead if you are killed first or last.
monga
VIP Member
Some countries aren’t hanging about deportations pending!
