Elle Florence Lecocq #11 Duchess of Bainbridge

Which sentence below perfectly describes Eleanor Lecocq in 2021?

  • Jane Losten: The Tale of Elle in her 30's

  • Spreads em wide to be a bride!

  • "Munt to munt" with many men

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I believe her when she says she had no friends growing up and she was bullied. I think I believe it because I relate as I was in (&still am kind of) the same situation.
Maybe there's something "wrong" with me but it is difficult to make & keep (especially keep) friends. I guess it's just more difficult for some people and others make it look so easy. I am friendly and a nice person but yeah it's just not a strange unusual thing in my experience.
 
Keikochan said:
I believe her when she says she had no friends growing up and she was bullied. I think I believe it because I relate as I was in (&still am kind of) the same situation.
Maybe there's something "wrong" with me but it is difficult to make & keep (especially keep) friends. I guess it's just more difficult for some people and others make it look so easy. I am friendly and a nice person but yeah it's just not a strange unusual thing in my experience.
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I have a lot of people I'm friendly with and with whom I hang out - but no real close friends that I tell everything to. I avoid hanging out too closely with people at work as well.

The problem with Elle is that she makes terrible life decisions at 30+ years old. Moving too fast with guys, giving up a job to chase men across the country... she has no self reflection. Her personality hasn't grown in the 10+ years she did youtube. In fact it has gotten worse. When she first started, it wasn't too bad and she still had a lot of time to grow, make mistakes. I hope to god she gets her life together. Having a 9-5 job is important to keep your sanity I think.

Some friends give good and honest advice. Like my one friend who advised me not to move to follow a man - she said if a relationship was meant to be, it will happen regardless of distance and that if it wasn't meant to be you can be living next door and it won't happen. But you need to be open to advice.

People on this forum have been giving Elle advice for years and years. Telling her to slow down, focus on herself and not to be needy or desperate. She reads here but only takes the bad advice but not the good ones.
 
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Keikochan said:
I believe her when she says she had no friends growing up and she was bullied. I think I believe it because I relate as I was in (&still am kind of) the same situation.
Maybe there's something "wrong" with me but it is difficult to make & keep (especially keep) friends. I guess it's just more difficult for some people and others make it look so easy. I am friendly and a nice person but yeah it's just not a strange unusual thing in my experience.
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I agree with you, I believe her too. I only have two close friends remaining from when I was in highschool. I only really made short term casual friends in undergrad and post grad classes. Even work friends I don't spend time with them or talking outside of work. I prob have more close internet friends I've never met in real life than I do real life friends. One of my oldest friends is one of those people who just makes friends everywhere and it isn't something I know how to do. And it is hard when you see how easy it can be for some people and it is easy to think "what is wrong with me?" And I can see how that would affect Elle.

So I do feel for her in that way. Even when you try sometimes kids (and adults) are just mean and nasty. But I think there is a part of her issue where she just can't be open and real with people. I legit think her online persona is exactly how she presents her self in real life. It is hard for people to make friends with the real you when you don't even know who the real you is.
 
Drasticactions said:
So I do feel for her in that way. Even when you try sometimes kids (and adults) are just mean and nasty. But I think there is a part of her issue where she just can't be open and real with people. I legit think her online persona is exactly how she presents her self in real life. It is hard for people to make friends with the real you when you don't even know who the real you is.
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I think Elle has a need to show off to others. That's the point of her existence. Do you know how tiring it is to be "friends" with this type of person? Maybe colleague is OK, for afternoon drinks once in a while. But friends???
 
Keikochan said:
Maybe there's something "wrong" with me but it is difficult to make & keep (especially keep) friends. I guess it's just more difficult for some people and others make it look so easy. I am friendly and a nice person but yeah it's just not a strange unusual thing in my experience.
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There's nothing wrong with you, Keikochan! Lots of people have trouble making and keeping friends as adults, myself included. I moved a few times after graduate school, due to work, and found it very difficult meeting new people in a city where you literally know no one. Especially as you get older and the dynamics of life change, it becomes harder to meet folks and make time for them. The Cut has a great series of articles about friendship that you might find useful.

I agree with @Drasticactions in that while I can't fault Elle for not being able to make friends, her personality is a factor in the whole thing too. She is just so immature! Even though Elle seemed to be the least popular "Doll", I sense that none of those women are close at all. That's the kind of friend Elle wants, someone to go to the country club with once a season and then no contact. To be fair, she has never said she's lonely and I do think she is content with her hobbies of shopping, cooking, and watching Netflix. Lots of people are and I can't criticize her for that!
 
Drasticactions said:
I agree with you, I believe her too. I only have two close friends remaining from when I was in highschool. I only really made short term casual friends in undergrad and post grad classes. Even work friends I don't spend time with them or talking outside of work. I prob have more close internet friends I've never met in real life than I do real life friends. One of my oldest friends is one of those people who just makes friends everywhere and it isn't something I know how to do. And it is hard when you see how easy it can be for some people and it is easy to think "what is wrong with me?" And I can see how that would affect Elle.

So I do feel for her in that way. Even when you try sometimes kids (and adults) are just mean and nasty. But I think there is a part of her issue where she just can't be open and real with people. I legit think her online persona is exactly how she presents her self in real life. It is hard for people to make friends with the real you when you don't even know who the real you is.
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Yeah, I know it's hard to have go-to friends as an adult. I was very loyal to the same set of friends from elementary through high school, but I thought it was natural to let that fade as we moved on (I actually have been recently surprised to see that some others in my high school kept some of the same friends just because I went to a school where everyone went all over for college and moved to various new places). College - I had a very small set of friends but again we all split up after so I am not good about keeping in touch since we have different lives now (but when I do see one of them every few years it's fun). As an adult, I mainly bond with people I work with, but I do best socializing one on one with people which means I have lots of friends that don't know each other so there's no real group gatherings. I am an only child so I don't crave tons of socializing--- just someone to do things with/laugh with every now and then. But it means I am not particularly close to anyone nor am I really the kind of person to lean on friends emotionally/otherwise. Is it great? No, but I have others in my life for that. I think as long as Elle has someone she doesn't necessarily need to be a social butterfly, but her problem is she has not seemed to have a deep connection with the men she's trying to rely on instead.
 
ccc123000 said:
She may not be lonely, but she desperately needs to be in a relationship at all times, and latches onto the next man like she is clinging for dear life. 😂
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True! I should have clarified; I meant that she has never expressed that she's lonely because she doesn't have friends or a big family. I think she is really content without those relationships in her life but you're right, it's all about the romantic relationships for Elle.

But even those aren't about loneliness! She doesn't even like to spend time with her boyfriends, it seems. It's more about them fulfilling the role of "boyfriend" but not about them as human beings. Elle seemed happiest with Chris, because he worked all the time and he didn't have any hobbies she had to pretend to enjoy. She got to do all the shopping, YouTubing, and hanging out with her mom she wanted while still being able to say "I have a boyfriend!".
 
ccc123000 said:
Any guesses to explain the Duchess' radio silence this time? Is there a bun in the oven? LOL

I truly wonder what she is living on ATM. Is her advertised "job" a real paying one? I am inclined to believe she has some sort of trust, though probably not very substantial.
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She's definitely not pregnant. Can't imagine a person as obsessed with appearances as she is to get pregnant before getting married.
I think she's either too busy wrapping a guy round her finger and spending all her time at his place or she's been dumped again and is too angry & devastated to film videos. Plus she ran out of content ideas some 20 months ago so what could she film anyway?

As to the source of her income, I'm starting to think ginette gave her 30% or so of the Victoria house sale price and Smelle is living off that.
 
thecatlass said:
She's definitely not pregnant. Can't imagine a person as obsessed with appearances as she is to get pregnant before getting married.
I think she's either too busy wrapping a guy round her finger and spending all her time at his place or she's been dumped again and is too angry & devastated to film videos. Plus she ran out of content ideas some 20 months ago so what could she film anyway?

As to the source of her income, I'm starting to think ginette gave her 30% or so of the Victoria house sale price and Smelle is living off that.
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I have always thought Elle received a rather large inheritance from her God father she has briefly mentioned once. I think that’s what she lives off of and why her life became so “luxury” seemingly overnight.
 
APoppy said:
I have always thought Elle received a rather large inheritance from her God father she has briefly mentioned once. I think that’s what she lives off of and why her life became so “luxury” seemingly overnight.
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Would a guy that Elle was not related by blood give a large inheritance to her? It seems less likely than her biological dad making child support payments.
 
MUALover said:
Would a guy that Elle was not related by blood give a large inheritance to her? It seems less likely than her biological dad making child support payments.
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She honestly only mentioned him a few times in older videos that I imagine are now gone so I don’t remember exact details but it did seem like they were close and the way she mentioned him really made me think there was more there and that’s were wealth comes from.
 
Elle is greedy. She was not content to earn her $60,000 dollar job in MDFA despite the fact that her colleagues threw her birthday parties, she had long lunch breaks, and invited her back to interview for her old job after quitting. Many accountants and other white collar jobs only make that much - it's above the average income in Canada. She's not willing to put in the hard work it takes to be a lawyer.

She insists or thinks she is an European princess and feels entitled to a rich white dude. It doesn't matter how bad he treats her - see Chris, or degraded her in public (Joe shooting her crotch in a video) as long as he looks good on paper. Maybe she likes bad boys - some women do. She would rather have a guy who has no job (Rick) but who has a degree and a semi-job that can be talked up (Rick). Who cares about abilities and character and such as long as you look good on paper? Rick's first wife dumped his ass and Elle takes him in and leaves her life for him.
 
EDTA: Elle thinks she was taking a job that was beneath her because of her law degree. But many lawyers don't work in law and do other jobs - Human Resources and IT are some fields. You have PhDs driving taxis in Canada - a fact. I know people who took half of what their maximum earning potential is to be closer to their families in a job they were over qualified to do. Another guy slaved in a job for 12 years, when he was making 1/3 of his earning potential because he worked in a narrow field - it took him 12 years to find his niche. He worked hard at his job, didn't complain, did extra work, paid his dues, networked and got his dream job eventually. Elle thinks she is a special princess.
 
MUALover said:
EDTA: Elle thinks she was taking a job that was beneath her because of her law degree. But many lawyers don't work in law and do other jobs - Human Resources and IT are some fields. You have PhDs driving taxis in Canada - a fact. I know people who took half of what their maximum earning potential is to be closer to their families in a job they were over qualified to do. Another guy slaved in a job for 12 years, when he was making 1/3 of his earning potential because he worked in a narrow field - it took him 12 years to find his niche. He worked hard at his job, didn't complain, did extra work, paid his dues, networked and got his dream job eventually. Elle thinks she is a special princess.
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I agree that Elle's a special princess but I never got the sense she thought she was beneath her job. The constant bragging and lying about her job was as much for her own delusion as it was for viewers. She had to constantly remind herself she was a lawyer and did legal work, otherwise she'd probably have a meltdown realizing she was in just another dull office job.

I fault Elle for lying about and exaggerating her career, but I also don't see any problem with her having a chill office job if she can afford to. Just be honest about it, and people would actually respect you for being authentic. Instead she just had to be "girlboss" and perpetuate toxic work culture myths.
 
MUALover said:
Would a guy that Elle was not related by blood give a large inheritance to her? It seems less likely than her biological dad making child support payments.
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You don't need to be a blood relative to care about someone and want to include them in your will. One can have relatives that they never speak to or care about, would you rather they inherited your wealth or a person who you were close with, although not biologically related?

The thing is, a regular person who receives an inheritance probably wants to make a good use of it. Invest it, so its value increases with time, use it as a property down-payment, pay for their kid's education, support their new business. So they won't have much leftover for frivolous purchases. Meanwhile, Smelle probably treats all that money as her shopping fund.

At the same time, I have a feeling the sum isn't too large because if it were, she'd have purchased SOME property SOMEWHERE. Back when that guy passed away, there was no indication she'd be leaving Vancouver, so it would only make sense if she tried to buy an apartment there, even if it was just an investment one that gets rented out and she could have stayed elsewhere.
 
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