I'm a home body so I'd be more than happy to sit on the porch and watch everyone else have fun. But you know that's not Joe. I think he saw all those people out there having fun and knew that would be him soon.Even more telling than the video angle was their exchange:
YALETOWN APT. PATIO
Elle is lounging on the newly decorated patio, hand resting on stomach after a patio beer with Joe who finished running a marathon that morning. Little did Elle know, but that beer would be her last with her beau.
ELLE
(Petting Bebe)
Here we are, out on the patio. We redecorated just for you, Bebe. Hehehe. It's pretty nice out there, what do you think?
JOE
(clears throat)
Redecorated for the cat?
ELLE
Yeah. Only the best for princess.
Joe slowly pans out over the waterfront view, taking in the view for the last time. No more Princess Bebe in his future, just the wide open hiking trails of the North Shore and patio beers with Hinge and Bumble girls.
JOE
(Quietly)
I didn't think that's why we redecorated.
ELLE
Teehee. That's a pretty nice view, eh?
JOE
Yeah. There's lot of people in the park, lots of dogs. Lots of boats. Feels like spring.
END SCENE
Yeah I am a homebody too and can be entertained just people watching whether it be sitting at a cafe, a park, or a porch if I ever have one. I have always known an outdoorsy/adventurous person would not be compatible for me since I am not up for participating but I guess Elle really didn't realize it. Maybe when you don't have hobbies you don't realize that they can be really important parts of other people's lives?I'm a home body so I'd be more than happy to sit on the porch and watch everyone else have fun. But you know that's not Joe. I think he saw all those people out there having fun and knew that would be him soon.
They just weren't compatible and not saying you can't date an outdoorsy person when you aren't but like their version of fun and activity wasn't the same.
I guess her mother is back in town? Jokes aside, what is with Elle's new use of slang? She's with "bestie" (shouldn't it be my bestie?) and in that other video the food was "bomb". It reminds me of a Karen trying to keep up with the kids. So cringeworthy, in my opinion. She wants to present herself as this epitome of urbane, cosmopolitan European chic but then uses terms like "bestie" and sounds like a teenager.
Adding the subtext to Joe scenes is the greatest thing ever. It always makes me smile. When he reads that on his couple times a year visit to these forums I am sure he'll smile.Joe slowly pans out over the waterfront view, taking in the view for the last time. No more Princess Bebe in his future, just the wide open hiking trails of the North Shore and patio beers with Hinge and Bumble girls.
Call me crazy, but I can't help wondering if Mr. Next is the "bestie" here and it's Elle's way of flaunting a date.As much as I doubt her brunch was with a best friend I guess I am happy that she seems to have a friend outside of Mr next. Or at least takes time off of tinder to be friends with someone who is not her mom or a romantic interest. I can't see Elle opening up or being vulnerable enough to have a real best friend. But hopefully she is learning that?
I'm shocked but it seems like growth to me? Can't be mad at her for that.
Yes, this exactly! I don't think Elle ever grasped that since Joe worked an insane amount (nights, weekends, on vacation), he really valued his time off out hiking or snowshoeing or doing other outdoor activities. I also think she did a bit of a bait and switch, because prior to moving in together they did a lot of outdoor activities together. She was clearly out of her element and they didn't do anything extreme -- most of the "hikes" were really just long walks -- but after they moved in together it seemed like all of that stopped. A good relationship means indulging your partner now and then with their hobbies or interests. Not making your apartment/weekends/vacations/Christmas gifts all about you and your interests, a la Elle.Maybe when you don't have hobbies you don't realize that they can be really important parts of other people's lives?
She has friends???Isn't the US-Canada border closed still? So I guess she's referring to one of her new Seattle friends as her "bestie"?
actually I read a short blurb about this book on Amazon and it looks interesting. At this point though, I think Elle needs to drop her pretence of being a lawyer or girl boss. She is clearly a housewife wannabe who wants to be kept in luxury.View attachment 544332 q
Interesting reading recommendations from Elle.
She needs a POF with the title "Housewife wannabe who wants to be kept in luxury".At this point though, I think Elle needs to drop her pretence of being a lawyer or girl boss. She is clearly a housewife wannabe who wants to be kept in luxury.
She has friends???
Her own mother moving to the same city to be closer couldn't even stop her from chasing Rick and his cardboard box TV stand. That whole period was manic, with the whirlwind romance and then moving so suddenly, barely a year after her mother had uprooted her life to move to Vancouver. It was pretty obvious her mum moved solely to be closer to Elle, so it seemed like such a callous thing to do. Nothing was stopping Elle and her misguided notion that life with Rick would be incredible.Apparently none that she wouldn't think twice about moving permanently away from to another country just to manhunt...
She’s so young as well, even now! But I have to give it to Elle when it comes to consistency. She’s been desperately man hunting and hoping to get married since she was in her early 20s and it seems like she was always willing to do whatever it took to get there. Makes me wonder if her childhood was actually desperately unhappy due to her lack of a father figure, and that’s why she feels the need to do this. It does seem like she grew up comfortably but who knows what’s really going on emotionally and mentally behind closed doors.Her own mother moving to the same city to be closer couldn't even stop her from chasing Rick and his cardboard box TV stand. That whole period was manic, with the whirlwind romance and then moving so suddenly, barely a year after her mother had uprooted her life to move to Vancouver. It was pretty obvious her mum moved solely to be closer to Elle, so it seemed like such a callous thing to do. Nothing was stopping Elle and her misguided notion that life with Rick would be incredible.
Thank goodness Elle's mother is in good health because if she wasn't, she might have been on her own. I hate to say it, but I think Elle certainly would have been torn between a sick parent and the chance at romance. I don't she would have immediately slowed things down with Rick to help her mother, honestly.
I think that's totally plausible, honestly. She's been open about how it really was just her and her mother growing up (no extended family), and how she didn't have friends because she was bullied. I won't take away from that because I believe she is being honest and I can imagine that it was tough for both Elle and her mother. I'm an only child too and people always ask if I was lonely growing up (I wasn't), but I can see how it would be if you didn't have friends or family around. Her mother was really her only companion through her teenage years, it seems, and that seems to have morphed into a codependent relationship into her 30s.Makes me wonder if her childhood was actually desperately unhappy due to her lack of a father figure, and that’s why she feels the need to do this.
Insightful musings about Elle’s childhood but even if she could get everything she wants in life she would still be a huge asshole.
We all know scores of people who had far worse scars from childhood that are much better people than Elle. She has no excuse.
Can you imagine the Smelley beaver playing sports? That would require a certain amount of athleticism, teamwork, and a willingness to get sweaty. I’m sure Elle is too busy worrying about her “pale” skin getting dark in the sun or her clown makeup melting off. What if her pageant curls deflate??Very true.
She's just not a very likeable person as she has shown time and time again.
I'm still finding it hard to believe she didn't have a single friend at school. Was there no sport or hobby she practiced outside of school which would allow her to meet peers? Did she live in such a hole in the middle of nowhere that literally every teenager was also a pupil at her school and hated her?
Her lack of hobbies and interests outside shopping, manhunting and eyefucking herself in the viewfinder means she can't meet people by doing hobby-related things.