Coronavirus Disease Outbreak COVID-19 #98

Do you think 'freedom day' July 19th will go ahead

  • Yes

    Votes: 170 56.3%

  • No

    Votes: 71 23.5%

  • Undecided

    Votes: 61 20.2%
  • Total voters
    302
  • Poll closed .
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https://www.12ft.io/https://www.dai...-fury-unveil-Freedom-Day-blueprint-TODAY.html

It's going to get confusing. I think the best thing to do would be to at least carry a mask with you for a while because you might find some places have decided to keep the rules in place even though they no longer have to.
 
Mardymermaid said:
Some people have loved the control of this shows by the amount raging on Twitter that some are excited to get rid of their mask. Wear yours and leave others to do what they wish
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The trouble with that is that at the start of Facemask Frenzy they told us that the masks were to protect others, not ourselves.

Now by rights it ought now to be possible to say "I don't have covid and I can prove it with reasonable certainty (high availability of tests and vaccines etc), therefore I don't need to wear a mask, as I have no covid to spread to you".

However it's not working out like that, if you say you're not going to wear a mask you get accusations of selfishness being thrown at you.
 
https://www.12ft.io/https://www.dai...-common-cold-flu-reach-equilibirum-years.html

That's been obvious all along really. Many viruses over time started as really deadly but ended up being nothing serious. As for mask wearing when the deaths were at the peak (March to June 2020) we didn't have to wear masks such as in supermarkets and we are all here to tell the story. Since masks have been brought in tens of millions have been jabbed. So why are people worried enough to still wear a mask or bothered others will decide to get rid of the mask? You're safer now regardless compared to early in the pandemic which was no mask mandate and no vaccines and you got through it.
 
https://www.12ft.io/https://www.dai...t-Covid-like-measures-infections-control.html

Work from home when you're ill: You can only do that with an admin based job and if you have one of those jobs you should be working from home anyway as you don't need to go to a office to do it.

Avoid others if you've got a cough: That won't work. Imagine having a cough and you ring up someone to cancel plans with them as you were told to avoid others. Nobody will be doing that.

Keep washing your hands regularly: People should have been doing that their entire lives anyway.
 
I'd like to see Boris actually mandate that businesses allow employees and customers not to wear masks. After all, FFP3 masks which protect the wearer are now freely available and thus anyone who feels the need for protection (crutch or not) can avail themselves of those. In fact, perhaps the government could provide them for free instead of continuing to spaff money up the wall on testing people who aren't actually ill.
 
cubegame said:
I'd like to see Boris actually mandate that businesses allow employees and customers not to wear masks. After all, FFP3 masks which protect the wearer are now freely available and thus anyone who feels the need for protection (crutch or not) can avail themselves of those. In fact, perhaps the government could provide them for free instead of continuing to spaff money up the wall on testing people who aren't actually ill.
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Yes. They've had 15 months now. Why the hell are there not loads of FFP3 production lines up and running throughout the UK so we don't have to buy them from 3M at vast price or chinese fakes that you can't be totally sure of the quality. And also so they don't have to get shipped around the planet at great environmental cost.
 
https://www.12ft.io/https://www.dai...t-Court-One-host-capacity-crowds-Tuesday.html

Great news. It's going to be fantastic to see capacity crowds again and I wish I had a ticket.
 
https://www.12ft.io/https://www.dai...3/Singapore-STOP-counting-Covid-19-cases.html

Singapore all through the pandemic has been seen as one of the best countries for dealing with it. So will the people who agree with that now turn against them for thinking the same way as Boris? People cannot be having a go at Boris for ditching restrictions and saying we need to live with it, but keep on praising Singapore who will do the same thing.
 
Never in the World said:
I’m in the NE too and I’m guessing we’re experiencing what the NW did a month ago I’m gutted as we were having a staycation this week for my birthday but my double AZ jabbed husband tested positive yesterday as is in the spare room right now feeling like shit. I suppose I just have to be grateful that we didn’t have a brilliant holiday abroad booked
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Hope he is ok, the break throughs I know of are all AZ as well, and all pretty poorly (but not in hospital!). But what we don’t know is how poorly they would be without it?
 
Web30 said:
What times borris due? 5?
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5 pm apparently.

www.thesun.co.uk

Variant that's hit UK & 30 countries could be deadlier than Delta, warn docs

THE “Lambda” variant ripping through 30 countries including the UK could be more deadly than the Delta strain, doctors warn. Malaysian health officials point to reports that the mutatio…
www.thesun.co.uk www.thesun.co.uk

Deadlier or killing more people because only 12% of the population of Peru have been jabbed........

graphics.reuters.com

Peru: the latest coronavirus counts, charts and maps

Tracking the COVID-19 outbreak, updated daily
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They have made a story from a non story. If Peru had jabbed as many as us then we would have had a reason to worry about the variant being more deadly.
 
Moth said:
Could not disagree more. That sounds like the type of 'head in the sand' approach that some people mean by 'learning to live with it' but perhaps that's not what you mean.

"Too much information" or 'ignorance is bliss'?
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Maybe both . Perhaps I meant too much conflicting information available to the public, often without context to understand it. ( even with knowledge sometimes people have to distinguish opinion and speculation from proven facts, that's without going into false information).

It has been drummed into us to think a certain way about covid . I have heard people who are at home unwell hoping they next negative. This people are poorly, they should be at home till they are feeling better, regardless of the name of the illness they have. ( I'm aware of issues for their close contact isolating)
 
www.thesun.co.uk

Ordering at bar may still be banned AFTER July 19 as councils keep rules going

ORDERING at the bar could still be banned after July 19 with councils forcing venues to keep some rules, it’s reported. Table service and masks in pubs may remain after Freedom Day in two wee…
www.thesun.co.uk www.thesun.co.uk

Councils will kill businesses in hospitality if they make them continue with table service. It's so important pubs and bars get back to being rammed with people queuing at the bar so they can make up for the money they have lost for a year and a half.
 
AllSeeingEye123 said:
www.thesun.co.uk

Ordering at bar may still be banned AFTER July 19 as councils keep rules going

ORDERING at the bar could still be banned after July 19 with councils forcing venues to keep some rules, it’s reported. Table service and masks in pubs may remain after Freedom Day in two wee…
www.thesun.co.uk www.thesun.co.uk

Councils will kill businesses in hospitality if they make them continue with table service. It's so important pubs and bars get back to being rammed with people queuing at the bar so they can make up for the money they have lost for a year and a half.
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I think it was reported in the Telegraph that council's COVID enforcement powers will also end on the 19th.
 
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