Coronavirus Disease Outbreak COVID-19 #98

Do you think 'freedom day' July 19th will go ahead

  • Yes

    Votes: 170 56.3%

  • No

    Votes: 71 23.5%

  • Undecided

    Votes: 61 20.2%
  • Total voters
    302
  • Poll closed .
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Mardymermaid said:
I’m done with my mask now to be honest especially on the school run why do I need to wear it outside in the playground it’s silly. It’s not working anyway with class bubbles isolating. I only wear it as I don’t want to be seen as the difficult parent
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Hardly anyones wearing them at our school now. I stopped after half term, nothings been said.

Anyone else think once borris makes his announcment today and if no masks from the 19th is confirmed people will just thing screw it and stop now? Im tempted to not bother everytime i go shopping.
 
AllSeeingEye123 said:
Businesses like this will not be the only one. It will be interesting to see which others come out in the next fortnight to say you'll still need a mask to visit. I wouldn't be shocked if at least one of the big supermarkets jumped on the bandwagon.

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Their right to choose to go out of business I suppose.

I suspect Waitrose will be looking at this kind of stupidity. They are the only dickish supermarket left around our part of the world.
 
cubegame said:
Their right to choose to go out of business I suppose.

I suspect Waitrose will be looking at this kind of stupidity. They are the only dickish supermarket left around our part of the world.
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Waitrose by me stopped counting their capacity a few weeks back, Lidl aren't either but all the others are
 
AllSeeingEye123 said:
Businesses like this will not be the only one. It will be interesting to see which others come out in the next fortnight to say you'll still need a mask to visit. I wouldn't be shocked if at least one of the big supermarkets jumped on the bandwagon.

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Jump on the bandwagon is a bit unfair. Lots of people will want to feel safe and it's hard undoing over a year of being told you will die if exposed.
 
I can’t really see a small independent camera specialist drawing in huge crowds either 😂

Last day of isolation - I’ve counted up 6 weeks of isolations in the last 9 months. If I was self employed I would be totally fooked. Ironically my child tested positive (unknowingly) outside of all these isolations!!
 
Tublet83 said:
I can’t really see a small independent camera specialist drawing in huge crowds either 😂

Last day of isolation - I’ve counted up 6 weeks of isolations in the last 9 months. If I was self employed I would be totally fooked. Ironically my child tested positive (unknowingly) outside of all these isolations!!
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Actually they are normally quite a hive of activity. In the three times I've been near their shop during the pandemic there has been a queue outside.......
 
Youre a wizard Harry said:
I’m of the opinion that the virus will burn itself out or mutate to a less serious strain, and as long as vaccines are working at reducing serious illness and deaths, we do have to live with it. I think humans are now so used to being able to overcome things with intelligence and technology that some people cannot accept that viruses are part of nature and life cycles, and can’t be completely defeated.

The restrictions have and are continuing to ruin lives and I fear we haven’t even seen the worst of the effects yet.
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The testing and knowing the cases are there aren't helping. I think due to modern science and technology there is too much information. Cutting down on testing will make it go away a bit.
 
Were people not saying this from the beginning ! yet he’s one of the people that stood at the podium putting the fear of god into people 😷

SarahGard83 said:
No results back yet but had an awful night coughing and with pain in my chest. I'm hoping it's just a cold
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Hope you feel better soon x
 
Prgirl_cesca said:
I am a bit torn because we potentially are being thrown to the wolves and the Govt have made absolutely shite decisions the whole way. Being left leaning politically, my twitter feed is full of scary stuff right now, threats of winter lockdowns and long covid.

But at the same time as understanding the critics of reopening, we have lived under restrictions for so long and so many of us followed them to the letter of the law and have had barely any progress. Many of us have our jobs hanging by a thread due to covid. Easy for people whose earnings are unaffected by covid to encourage restrictions.

I'm tired of wearing masks, tired of not going to house parties if I know too many people will be there, tired of barely seeing my family and most of all working in hospitality I am absolutely sick and fucking tired of trying to enforce stupid restrictions such as you can't stand up with a drink 🤯

I'm healthy, almost double vaxxed and ready. But I totally respect some others won't be.
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I understand that feeling of being a bit torn but I am reminded of a description made sometime ago about the Covid situation: 'it's like wrestling a gorilla, you don't stop when you get tired, you stop when the gorilla gets tired'.

I get that people are tired of the restrictions. We're all tired of having to think about Covid every time we want to do anything. If the adult vaccination programme had been completed I might be more confident about the government plans. The fact is that having extended the restrictions for 4 weeks to get more people vaccinated the vaccination rate has slowed down and there will still be a lot of people not double jabbed by 19th July. With that and the situation in schools I think that the description of 'variant factories' sounds all too plausible.

So what we definitely don't need is Sajid Javid and his Ayn Rand libertarian ideals encouraging the tosser Johnson who couldn't give a toss to toss science in the bin in pursuit of cheap popularism and Javid's career.
 
Moderna may be used to bump up efficacy in Israel I wonder where that leaves the AZ as that has even lower protection
 
ITV at it this morning with badly worded polls to try and get the results they want. If people decide to wear a mask or not depends on many things like how many jabs they have had, what the weather is like, how busy the place is, if they feel unwell etc. You cannot just put a question out there that assumes that in every single possible scenario everyone will do the exact same thing of always wearing a mask or never wearing one.



 
Some people have loved the control of this shows by the amount raging on Twitter that some are excited to get rid of their mask. Wear yours and leave others to do what they wish
 
Youre a wizard Harry said:
I’m of the opinion that the virus will burn itself out or mutate to a less serious strain, and as long as vaccines are working at reducing serious illness and deaths, we do have to live with it. I think humans are now so used to being able to overcome things with intelligence and technology that some people cannot accept that viruses are part of nature and life cycles, and can’t be completely defeated.

The restrictions have and are continuing to ruin lives and I fear we haven’t even seen the worst of the effects yet.
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The Smallpox virus was defeated by 'intelligence and technology' (and a vaccine) and many other diseases have been drastically reduced.

Do you have a reason to think that the virus will only 'burn itself out or mutate to a less serious strain'. I'm sure you know that the virus has been mutating all the time, some strains have been less serious, some have 'burned out' but some have been more serious (e.g. the Delta variant). What makes you think that this will change in future? The aim must be to significantly reduce the possibility of mutation. You do that by reducing the number of infections. You do that with vaccination. We will be nowhere near completing the vaccination programme on 19th July so why does that suddenly not matter?

The problem with people talking about 'learning to live with the virus' is that I suspect they mean trying to ignore it. It won't be ignored. "Learning to live with the virus' should mean continuing to take sensible precautions to limit infections. Politicians talk about it becoming a matter of 'personal responsibility'. That won't work. If it did then we wouldn't have laws about speeding, drink driving or wearing seatbelts. One only has to see the number of people who are thinking about stopping wearing masks now let alone in two weeks time to see that.

Kim Mild said:
The testing and knowing the cases are there aren't helping. I think due to modern science and technology there is too much information. Cutting down on testing will make it go away a bit.
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Could not disagree more. That sounds like the type of 'head in the sand' approach that some people mean by 'learning to live with it' but perhaps that's not what you mean.

"Too much information" or 'ignorance is bliss'?
 
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