Coronavirus Disease Outbreak COVID-19 #55

[BethB]

If you’ve been tested how soon did your results come back? I’m guessing near Liverpool on the North Wales border its very busy so we could be waiting longer for our daughters results. Its been 24 hours and I’m checking my phone every 10 minutes haha.

 

[Meh]

The average reading age in the UK is incredibly low at around 9 years old. Not to be patronising, but this does mean a huge portion of the country struggle to interpret, break down and understand information.
Time and time again the British public have been turkeys voting for christmas, nothing has changed.

Out of everything I have read on these pages this has been the most shocking. Is this true? Is the average reading comprehension 9 years old or was that exaggeration for effect? I’m away to do some research on this

I agree with your points around a second lockdown being much worse, economically, for our country. However, I do believe a national lockdown is more of an inevitability now.

 

[BethB]

Liverpool has three universities. What the hell did they expect? Uni students should not have gone back! I agree with schools staying open because kids need the structure and parents need to work but you’re telling me uni students couldn’t possibly have gone online or took a year out??

I agree. My sons friend is in uni there, partying with huge crowds where he lives, posting it online, and now he has covid. No surprise. They should have done online learning, they’re old enough to be disciplined to do the work.

 

[Tui]

Halls only account for probably less than 25% of students at a maximum though. A majority of 1st years will be in halls, although plenty will rent privately or live at home and then the vast majority of 2nd years and above, including post grads will all rent privately.

I suppose though the private renters are usually in houses of 4+ (I remember some 8 bed houses for rent when I was in uni). Shared kitchen, shared bathrooms, often doing different courses so different social groups. Still a ‘mare.

 

[Definitelyme]

Out of everything I have read on these pages this has been the most shocking. Is this true? Is the average reading comprehension 9 years old or was that exaggeration for effect? I’m away to do some research on this

I agree with your points around a second lockdown being much worse, economically, for our country. However, I do believe a national lockdown is more of an inevitability now.

This article gives a bit more of a balanced view. Average reading age takes in to account the whole country. Including babies https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/guerrillaworking.com/2019/05/06/the-average-reading-age-is/amp/

A better statistic to use is the adult literacy rate (the % of people over 15yo who can read and write) which is around 99% in the UK.

 

[Lucyloulucy]

I would be, but the problem for me (as I’ve already said, sorry for sounding like a broken record) is being separated from my boyfriend. He’s my rock and my support. I’ve had comments from people telling me I shouldn’t be so upset, but it’s pretty rich coming from people who can spend lockdowns with their husbands/wives/partners. They’ve no idea.

I would ask people who feel fine (not you specifically!) if they’d feel the same if someone came and took their partner away from them. It’s hell.

Well since you’ve quoted me specifically, I’d ask people who are temporarily separated from their loved ones to to be grateful that they absolutely haven’t been “taken away from them”. You can still talk, text, video call, send gifts, love each other and you will be together one day again. Your comment is beyond insulting to suggest anyone has “no idea” when there are many people on this thread, myself included, who have actually lost their loved ones forever due to Covid-19. I listened to my dad (62) take his last breath via conference call, my mum was home alone on the same call. We couldn’t be together or with anyone else at the absolute worst time. No rock, no support. There was no funeral. We didn’t get to say goodbye. We were also waiting to see if my mum or anyone else close was going to follow him into ICU at a time when we knew less, the deaths were sky high and no one knew what was ahead. We were advised to set up power of attorney’s “just incase”. So we have very different ideas of “hell” and “problems”. To everyone else, I apologise for ranting, seems we all need to vent sometimes.

 

[Tublet83]

If you’ve been tested how soon did your results come back? I’m guessing near Liverpool on the North Wales border its very busy so we could be waiting longer for our daughters results. Its been 24 hours and I’m checking my phone every 10 minutes haha.

I don’t think there’s much consistency, I know 2 people that got tested on the same day and one was 24 hours the other was 3 days and her household got the results at different times of the day.

I got a text message before an email came through for both in my household

 

[hnoz]

This article gives a bit more of a balanced view. Average reading age takes in to account the whole country. Including babies https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/guerrillaworking.com/2019/05/06/the-average-reading-age-is/amp/

A better statistic to use is the adult literacy rate (the % of people over 15yo who can read and write) which is around 99% in the UK.

I disagree, literacy and reading comprehension are not the same. 99% literacy rate just means being able to read or write in its most basic form.

Almost 17% of adults in the UK are classed as functionally illiterate.

 

[Definitelyme]

I disagree, literacy and reading comprehension are not the same.

I agree. But I still personally think adult literacy is a better measure. It’s a more balanced look imo. It’s why it’s so extensively used around the world as a measure of development and “average reading age” is not.

 

[gigi_93]

Halls only account for probably less than 25% of students at a maximum though. A majority of 1st years will be in halls, although plenty will rent privately or live at home and then the vast majority of 2nd years and above, including post grads will all rent privately.

Liverpool has a LOT of halls though. And loads of blocks of flats crammed with students. I’m not blaming them by any means as they were told to go back

 

[Oohthedrama]

Death is forever.
I think those who have elderly or vulnerable family members are more open to the idea of a lockdown,
Where as those who (in theory) aren’t personally effected have the economy at the forefront of their minds.

No judgement either way that would make sense

 

[BethB]

I don’t think there’s much consistency, I know 2 people that got tested on the same day and one was 24 hours the other was 3 days and her household got the results at different times of the day.

I got a text message before an email came through for both in my household

Thank you so much

 

[Hinkypunk]

Yes, Primary School kids have adapted amazingly well. They now all automatically sanitize their hands when they arrive at school, when they have to leave the class, when the return, before lunch etc. They don’t even flinch when someone from outside comes in wearing a face covering. Children are so resilient and this has shown it. Funny thing is you never hear them complain at all about the current situation, they just accept it and get on with it. Far more than many adults I know. How can kids be better equipped and more mature than adults?

Absolutely this. Kids have been so good with it all

 

[Bitofthebubbly]

Just when I think things can’t get anymore shambolic. I need to find an article on this.

 

[Fruitjack]

I didn't agree with universities 'going back' but there's much more to this. Many many courses can't be taught online, they require practical aspects, labs, equipment, software, machines - these are the things that cost the money that students spend their tuition fees on. And despite what you'd think, many students don't have laptops, access to wifi, specialist software. Also many students aren't 18, there are lots of mature students with families, lots who stay at home while studying and work in local jobs, part time students etc. So all of this has to be considered. It's not as easy as saying do it online, if that were the case every student would learn with the OU.

I agree. My sons friend is in uni there, partying with huge crowds where he lives, posting it online, and now he has covid. No surprise. They should have done online learning, they’re old enough to be disciplined to do the work.

 

[gigi_93]

Well since you’ve quoted me specifically, I’d ask people who are temporarily separated from their loved ones to to be grateful that they absolutely haven’t been “taken away from them”. You can still talk, text, video call, send gifts, love each other and you will be together one day again. Your comment is beyond insulting to suggest anyone has “no idea” when there are many people on this thread, myself included, who have actually lost their loved ones forever due to Covid-19. I listened to my dad (62) take his last breath via conference call, my mum was home alone on the same call. We couldn’t be together or with anyone else at the absolute worst time. No rock, no support. There was no funeral. We didn’t get to say goodbye. We were also waiting to see if my mum or anyone else close was going to follow him into ICU at a time when we knew less, the deaths were sky high and no one knew what was ahead. We were advised to set up power of attorney’s “just incase”. So we have very different ideas of “hell” and “problems”. To everyone else, I apologise for ranting, seems we all need to vent sometimes.

I quoted you for context. My actual post was not aimed at you. Thank you for the unwarranted attack. It’s not a competition as far as problems are concerned. I apologise for saying anything at all

 

[Bitofthebubbly]

Can’t learn how to be a doctor or a nurse from a laptop in your bedroom

 

[monga]

Boris and Keir are on from the commons

 

[JLXRD]

I quoted you for context. My actual post was not aimed at you. Thank you for the unwarranted attack. It’s not a competition as far as problems are concerned. I apologise for saying anything at all

Don’t apologise, you’re allowed to express sadness, just because others may not view it as something to be sad about doesn’t mean it isn’t. You’re right it’s not a competition. You clearly didn’t mean any harm, I got the context.

I wouldn’t have coped half as well without my husband by my side and recognise I’m very lucky I get to isolate with him. I hope soon they will allow travel corridors or something to help your situation as I’m sure there are others facing the same thing or those who won’t have seen family for a year or so soon xx

 

[gigi_93]

Don’t apologise, you’re allowed to express sadness, you’re right it’s not a competition. You clearly didn’t mean any harm, I got the context.

I wouldn’t have coped half as well without my husband by my side and recognise I’m very lucky I get to isolate with him. I hope soon they will allow travel corridors or something to help your situation as I’m sure there are others facing the same thing or those who won’t have seen family for a year or so soon xx

Thank you so much, I really appreciate your comment. It has nearly been a year for us now. There’s thousands in my situation, some who haven’t seen their newborn babies! It’s a scandal. But everyone has their problems, I just don’t appreciate my family telling me to suck it up, which is what sparked my original post