Coronavirus Disease Outbreak COVID-19 #55

[fireflies]

I do feel with tiers certain areas feel persecuted.
A national short lockdown and i mean nearly everything closed might work.

I think wales will lock down within days.

 

[monga]

I doubt it. Most comments I see now are that it’s a cold, they don’t know any one who has had it, flu kills more, it’s about government control, it’s fake and there was never a problem.........I honestly think that if you showed people that and they'd claim it was BBC propaganda

It's sad in this day and age people can't see past the end of their nose until it's too late ,I think there's a sense a relief here that there taking action now (from a health perspective)nobody needs to hear we'll just have to make you comfortable ,especially a child or a young person .I think we all take the health service for granted and don't really see how much we depend on it until it's not there.I've just heard on the local radio there's 12 ICU beds left it's dire.

 

[fireflies]

It's sad in this day and age people can't see past the end of their nose until it's too late ,I think there's a sense a relief here that there taking action now (from a health perspective)nobody needs to hear we'll just have to make you comfortable ,especially a child or a young person .I think we all take the health service for granted and don't really see how much we depend on it until it's not there.I've just heard on the local radio there's 12 ICU beds left it's dire.

12 in the entire northern Ireland or just your region?
Will the nightingale help?

 

[Ding]

I think knowing that everyones not in the same boat this time is making harder. With the national lockdown we were all following the same rules but now knowing some are allowed to see family and others aren't is tough

 

[Hinkypunk]

Time for the government to invoke their 4 stage strategy again I think

 

[Bitofthebubbly]

Sick of all this drip feeding. They address the public then straight away the speculation starts again. It’s draining. Wecouldn’t manage on 60% pay, we would be fucked financially so that’s a fun prospect on top of feeling like my daughters birthday plans are hanging in the balance.

 

[Jamhead]

Is anyone else feeling generally ok in themselves or am I out here by myself with that one? I’m not sure if there’s a certain amount of freedom that comes with knowing that whatever happens this time, couldn’t be any worse than what I’ve already went through

I am, which leaves me feeling guilty if I'm honest, when so many people are struggling. I had a rough patch back in May but I came through it and am firmly at the stage of just 'coming along for the ride'.
I'll follow the rules and help others as much as I physically and financially can. But I'm not worried or anxious or afraid of this winter.

 

[Giggling Squid]

Is anyone else feeling generally ok in themselves or am I out here by myself with that one? I’m not sure if there’s a certain amount of freedom that comes with knowing that whatever happens this time, couldn’t be any worse than what I’ve already went through

No, I’m ok too. I’ve got used to working from home, I’ve no kids, and what’s left of my entire family is less than 6 of us so we can still see each other and I don’t have a particularly big circular of friends. Nothing can be as bad as what my family went through a few years ago, so I’m just getting on with things. My biggest concern is my other half’s parents in NI, but they’re isolating, and have a good network to look after them. We miss them but we would only see them 2-3 times a year anyway....

 

[Pixipoppy]

This is the the thing that surprises me when so many call for a lockdown. I seen a poster a few threads back (sorry can’t remember who!) said they felt most people who call for a lockdown were unaffected first time round which I completely agree with, I have so many friends calling out for a ‘hard’ lockdown but they are the same friends that back in the Summer said they were having a great time off work sat drinking most days/in garden/baking on 80% pay now better off because they didn’t have commuter costs. I wonder how many would say the same when the reality of Winter would be 60% pay and less likely job prospects after!

I know! What kind of sick fuck actually wants to be in lockdown?! I will reluctantly accept it if it’s the only thing that can be done but I’d never wish it on us. How can people want to be isolated from their loved ones and see people lose their jobs? Weirdos

 

[Tublet83]

There’s a big difference on where you live in the country though and coping, some in this group haven’t been able to see friends and family for months and months whilst others have a fairly normal life.

I know! What kind of sick fuck actually wants to be in lockdown?! I will reluctantly accept it if it’s the only thing that can be done but I’d never wish it on us. How can people want to be isolated from their loved ones and see people lose their jobs? Weirdos

They probably don’t work and have never stopped seeing their loved ones

 

[monga]

12 in the entire northern Ireland or just your region?
Will the nightingale help?

The whole of NI down from 17 yesterday Our Nightingale is at a hospital that treats a lot of cancer patients so they won't get their treatment/ops now as the beds will be lost to Covid patients https://www.newsletter.co.uk/health...-beds-weekend-latest-figures-show-3000980?amp

 

[Mulholland Drive]

Apparently, in Germany school children are being advised to take thick blankets with them to school, because the experts over there think that classroom windows need to be opened every 20 minutes for at least 3-5 minutes at a time! Windows must be fully opened, not partially.

How kids will be able to concentrate, not only with cold wintry blasts (and what if its raining/snowing?), but also the faffing about opening and closing x number of windows throughout the day!

That said, the same rules don't seem to apply for office buildings or residential properties, including flats.

 

[BethB]

I'm not going to lie, I've had suicidal thoughts which are becoming more frequent because I see no way out of this mess. I suffer with my mental health and I am an expert on putting on a brave face. My children keep me going, I couldn't leave them without a mum. I hate the constant worry of am I doing the right thing by sending them to school. Money is a worry. I feel physically exhausted from the world we live in. I'm not sure if we will ever recover. I cant watch the news anymore. I hate the social distancing, curfews and rules. Its like we are living in a open prison.

I’m so sorry.

I really understand how you feel, I’m sure we all do. No end in sight is just so depressing and having no hope doesn’t help. All we can do is support eachother, and try and be hopeful that one day we will all be through this safely and life will be back to normal again. I live with that hope, it keeps me going.

I have a chronic illness and prior to covid I’d not been out living my life for 2 years, I was just making progress earlier this year getting out again and functioning better and covid hit and now I’m struggling again. People may think I’m prepared for lockdown having been at home for 2 years and for 6 months bed ridden during that time, but this year is even worse because I can’t go out safely now if I could go out, I’ve my family home 24/7 which is sometimes nice but it means I don’t get proper rest and my eldest who’s 18 has given me hell over restrictions. The stress has been awful.

It’s hard right now, the conflict at home with my eldest son because he wants to see his girlfriend in Liverpool despite her family having covid and all the restrictions she is under due to lockdown, and we’re in lockdown here too. The stress and anxiety he’s caused me have been awful, but he’s struggling too. It’s awful trying to keep everyone positive. I’m drained and all my anxiety/panic attack issues have resurfaced.

I focus on and imagine life free of covid life and ill health, I imagine better days and how much I’ll never take life, people and my freedom, for granted again. Being unwell for a few years and a pandemic has definitely taught me so much, life will taste far sweeter once this is all over

We will all get through this, and I hope it’s sooner than we think. Hugs to you. Hold on xxxx

 

[Lucyloulucy]

There’s a big difference on where you live in the country though and coping, some in this group haven’t been able to see friends and family for months and months whilst others have a fairly normal life.


They probably don’t work and have stopped seeing their loved ones

When I say I’m coping well I don’t mean I haven’t been terribly affected by this, I have, in the worst possible way. I just feel freedom in the sense that the worst has already happened. It’s difficult to feel stressed about Christmas shopping when there will be an empty space at the dinner table.

 

[Tublet83]

Apparently, in Germany school children are being advised to take thick blankets with them to school, because the experts over there think that classroom windows need to be opened every 20 minutes for at least 3-5 minutes at a time! Windows must be fully opened, not partially.

How kids will be able to concentrate, not only with cold wintry blasts (and what if its raining/snowing?), but also the faffing about opening and closing x number of windows throughout the day!

That said, the same rules don't seem to apply for office buildings or residential properties, including flats.

my daughters school has windows and the external door open constantly. They are all wearing thick cardigans/jumpers

her school is boiling though it’s newly built and a very efficient building

 

[Jamhead]

There’s a big difference on where you live in the country though and coping, some in this group haven’t been able to see friends and family for months and months whilst others have a fairly normal life.

I'm in a tier 1 area, life could be pretty normal. Through (group personal choice though which I suppose is different than if you're being told to do it as the choice element isnt there.
I have siblings and nieces and nephews who live 15 minutes away that I haven't seen in the flesh since March.
I've not been in the majority of my families houses either. We're a big family and usually meet at least once a month for a birthday or a trip somewhere.
I also have seen my best friends once this year and we would normally meet monthly for a meal or go to the cinema.

Apparently, in Germany school children are being advised to take thick blankets with them to school, because the experts over there think that classroom windows need to be opened every 20 minutes for at least 3-5 minutes at a time! Windows must be fully opened, not partially.

How kids will be able to concentrate, not only with cold wintry blasts (and what if its raining/snowing?), but also the faffing about opening and closing x number of windows throughout the day!

That said, the same rules don't seem to apply for office buildings or residential properties, including flats.

My childrens school have had all doors and windows open in every classroom since they went back (primary).
Parents have been told to make sure children have coats, hats, scarves and gloves for them everyday.
We've had some awful rainy days the last 2 weeks but it hasn't phased them.

 

[Definitelyme]

I worry about the effects of another full lockdown on mental health. We have lost a member of our family whose mental health was put under immense strain during the last lockdown and it all became too much. I don’t want that happening to any other families.

 

[Gym&Tonic]

I’ve got that horrible pit of stomach anxiety at the moment with all the uncertainty. I’m very much a planner and someone who likes control in my life but with no end in sight with this it’s scary. I am grinding my teeth in my sleep and I can feel my muscles are tense all over. I’m lucky I can work from home with my job but I’m worried about my brother who was made redundant in June and has just started another job but it’s non essential retail so who knows if another lockdown would change that, and my mum works in the big hospital here and has many health issues so wouldn’t fare well if she came down with the virusMy sons dad is in a T2 area so I’m wary of him going up to stay with him even though it’s not against the rules but we live in a T1 area so I don’t want to risk spreading anything.

I don’t know what my point is but just in a right grump this morning!

On the flip side though, as a previous poster mentioned, my primary age son is a right superstar through this and aside being down towards the end of being off school in lockdown he’s just adapted and got on with all the new rules faces as have the rest of his yr1 class and their teachers are just ace.

I feel very much the same. Anxiety, poor sleep, teeth grinding and covered in psoriasis.

 

[JoeBloggs]

Is anyone else feeling generally ok in themselves or am I out here by myself with that one? I’m not sure if there’s a certain amount of freedom that comes with knowing that whatever happens this time, couldn’t be any worse than what I’ve already went through

I am, and I feel like I’m somehow missing something. My life hasn’t changed a great deal except that I am not working much and currently earning about 25% of my pre covid wage.

I think I am in a very fortunate position, while we have been impacted financially it’s our savings but as we aren’t going out etc we’re not really noticed the change. We’re very home body people and so except going out for dinner with friends and my parents that side hasn’t changed.

We live in the South where I think things are very different to the North. I only know one person personally who has lost their job. They were in travel.

My husband and I are in support of a lockdown, being in our 30s we have always known our future is a mess. No pensions, possibly no nhs. We always felt a harsh lockdown (police, army etc) would have been better with closed borders, I do wonder if the shop has sailed now.

I feel so sad for those who are suffering, whilst we are all in this storm, no ones in the same boat. Gosh sorry for the essay

 

[Platypusfattypus]

Lockdown wouldn't affect my income, Im nhs so I still have to work. But my husband is self employed with business costs to cover so financially we would be hit hard, no 60 percent here. We can't survive on my income alone. But I'd still rather a short term full lockdown then back to how we are now then the constant changes and back and forth.