Coronavirus Disease Outbreak COVID-19 #55

Questions....

  • #TeamSAGE I’m with the scientists, lock us down before it’s too late!

    Votes: 183 48.3%

  • #TeamBoJo I think he made the right choice with the 3 tier system for now

    Votes: 79 20.8%

  • I’ve done my Christmas shopping/will do it this week.

    Votes: 62 16.4%

  • F*ck off it’s only October, I am NOT ready for the crimbo are you mad!

    Votes: 168 44.3%

  • I have broken lockdown rules, don’t tell anyone

    Votes: 93 24.5%

  • Still being good, star student. No rule breaks here!

    Votes: 136 35.9%

  • I believe we will eventually go into a circuit breaker lockdown (before Christmas)

    Votes: 238 62.8%

  • I don’t think the government will lock us down again.

    Votes: 82 21.6%
  • Total voters
    379
  • Poll closed .
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Liverpool are in trouble too and last nights celebrations won’t help matters
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Yet another slogan to wrap our heads round - "Circuit Breaker", which would appear to be a short, sharp, shock lockdown that could last anything up to a fortnight.

If its implemented I don't know how it will fit in with the current tiered regulations, but all I do know is that it will just add to the confusion and cripple the economy further. And yet the professors supporting this measure admitted it will only bide them more time to "put other measures in place"

Given the measures we've had over the last 6 months, what else is there short of no lockdown at all at one extreme, and complete martial law in another?
 
fireflies said:
Same here it's bonkers schools and uni stay open.
Why the hell is Nottingham not tier 3

Saw the woman who ran Nottingham council newsnight other night. Horrible abrupt smug and fails to understand .
They have highest cases per 100k.
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My understanding is that Nottingham aren’t in the highest tier because the hospitals are coping at the minute and still have lots of capacity and most cases are in the city centre with students. Liverpool however has cases affecting the vulnerable therefore the hospitals in Liverpool are at full capacity and are struggling.
It would be a good idea to have put Nottingham at a tier 3 to prevent the more vulnerable getting the virus from students and then the hospitals being overwhelmed.
 
Lucyloulucy said:
Is anyone else feeling generally ok in themselves or am I out here by myself with that one? I’m not sure if there’s a certain amount of freedom that comes with knowing that whatever happens this time, couldn’t be any worse than what I’ve already went through 🤷🏽‍♀️
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I would be, but the problem for me (as I’ve already said, sorry for sounding like a broken record) is being separated from my boyfriend. He’s my rock and my support. I’ve had comments from people telling me I shouldn’t be so upset, but it’s pretty rich coming from people who can spend lockdowns with their husbands/wives/partners. They’ve no idea.

I would ask people who feel fine (not you specifically!) if they’d feel the same if someone came and took their partner away from them. It’s hell.
 
gigi_93 said:
Liverpool has three universities. What the hell did they expect? Uni students should not have gone back! I agree with schools staying open because kids need the structure and parents need to work but you’re telling me uni students couldn’t possibly have gone online or took a year out??
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Similarly, if it isn't fair to tell vulnerable people to shield again is it fair to tell a generation of students to pause their life and have a forced year out?

The reality is there isn't one easy solution that doesn't have huge downsides.
 
gigi_93 said:
I would be, but the problem for me (as I’ve already said, sorry for sounding like a broken record) is being separated from my boyfriend. He’s my rock and my support. I’ve had comments from people telling me I shouldn’t be so upset, but it’s pretty rich coming from people who can spend lockdowns with their husbands/wives/partners. They’ve no idea.

I would ask people who feel fine (not you specifically!) if they’d feel the same if someone came and took their partner away from them. It’s hell.
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I feel similar to you. I’m lucky enough to live with my husband (can’t imagine what it would be like to be in your situation and really feel for you), but I can relate to you saying that you would feel okay but for the aspect that has the most impact on your life.

For me, it’s 100% job related. I’ve been on furlough since April 1st, despite being able to work from home. I’m on furlough because it’s better financially for my company to take furlough than pay my wages. I keep getting reassured that come Nov 1st I’ll be back, but I know the impact that all this talk of restrictions and the uncertainty has on businesses, even those that can still operate.

By the time I go back to work I’ll have had 7 months at home, not working, not developing professionally, not using my skills and I’m terrified that all this talk of further restrictions is going to spook my employer and I’ll either come back part time or even worse be made redundant.

Like so many, I’ve worked really hard for my career, and I can’t help feeling a bit worthless because of all of this.
 
nbt said:
I think another lockdown would be much harder to deal with than first time round.

Back in March we went into it thinking it was 3 weeks and there was an end in sight.

This time round people don’t have hope, they don’t know how long it’ll last and how many times we’ll have to keep doing this.
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Yes I feel I see comments on newspapers online people see a ‘circuit breaker’ (I hate that term 🤣) as the solution to the problem as in well if we lock everything down for 2 weeks then we can have a normal Christmas!

Not sure where this thinking comes from?!

We were in lockdown for 3/4 months (til non essential shops etc opened) and virus wasn't suddenly eradicated. Surely being winter it’ll be worse cases anyway?

But say if that did happen then would people be happy to lockdown yet again after Christmas til Spring?

It’s the constant uncertainty that’s getting to me!
 
hnoz said:
Similarly, if it isn't fair to tell vulnerable people to shield again is it fair to tell a generation of students to pause their life and have a forced year out?

The reality is there isn't one easy solution that doesn't have huge downsides.
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And what would the students do? The jobs they may usually get are in areas like hospitality. So they’d be sitting at home for a year.


mcfeez said:
Does anyone know the firm dates/days the new N.I restrictions come in?
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I believe Friday.
 
MissD said:
I feel similar to you. I’m lucky enough to live with my husband (can’t imagine what it would be like to be in your situation and really feel for you), but I can relate to you saying that you would feel okay but for the aspect that has the most impact on your life.

For me, it’s 100% job related. I’ve been on furlough since April 1st, despite being able to work from home. I’m on furlough because it’s better financially for my company to take furlough than pay my wages. I keep getting reassured that come Nov 1st I’ll be back, but I know the impact that all this talk of restrictions and the uncertainty has on businesses, even those that can still operate.

By the time I go back to work I’ll have had 7 months at home, not working, not developing professionally, not using my skills and I’m terrified that all this talk of further restrictions is going to spook my employer and I’ll either come back part time or even worse be made redundant.

Like so many, I’ve worked really hard for my career, and I can’t help feeling a bit worthless because of all of this.
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I absolutely feel for those who’s jobs are being affected. I see people losing their jobs and businesses and it makes me so angry. I hope things improve for you ❤️
 
hnoz said:
Similarly, if it isn't fair to tell vulnerable people to shield again is it fair to tell a generation of students to pause their life and have a forced year out?

The reality is there isn't one easy solution that doesn't have huge downsides.
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Absolutely it’s not fair. None of this is. Letting students go back into halls seems like the worst idea of the lot though!
 
The amount of people that don’t grasp that lockdowns don’t stop the virus but just slow it’s spread so the health service can cope is unreal.

They’re also the same people who don’t understand exponential growth means in ten days’ time the virus would double the number of new infections without stricter control on person to person contact.
 
gigi_93 said:
Absolutely it’s not fair. None of this is. Letting students go back into halls seems like the worst idea of the lot though!
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Halls only account for probably less than 25% of students at a maximum though. A majority of 1st years will be in halls, although plenty will rent privately or live at home and then the vast majority of 2nd years and above, including post grads will all rent privately.
 
Lucyloulucy said:
Is anyone else feeling generally ok in themselves or am I out here by myself with that one? I’m not sure if there’s a certain amount of freedom that comes with knowing that whatever happens this time, couldn’t be any worse than what I’ve already went through 🤷🏽‍♀️
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I am in comparison to the last lockdown but I was really mentally unwell last time so anything that's not that is an improvement. I'm just worried ill go back down that path
 
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