Caroline Flack - Her Life And Death Documentary

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Wanted to start this thread prior to the show tonight, I’m not sure how long it will be left open that’s for admin to decide,
because this poor girl has been dragged back into the media on almost a daily basis for nearly a year now, a mascot for the #bekind movement which we all know means “be kind but only when it suits my narrative or benefits me” and I can weapon-ise the hashtag for my own benefit when needed.

“Friends and family will discuss how the hate she received on social media and the "press intrusion" upon her life contributed to Flack's deep depression from which she would not recover”

from the teasers we’ve been supplied so far, her family have been very open about the fact Caroline has always struggled with mental health issues, they knew she’d looked into suicide, was at times obsessed with searching out press about herself, and obsessed with searching out darker sides to the internet, which ultimately lead to her death.

she was a very vulnerable soul, that’s very clear, she searched for fame but also used it as a form of self harm (in my opinion)

She herself contacted the makers of this documentary long before her death, to do a documentary like this, so even in her darkest days she wanted the media involved, it feels to me like it was her self harm method of choice. Even if this was to “raise awareness” you can’t make everyone like you, and I can assume she would have still received much critism after it’s release.

my opinion is, I wish ITV had stepped in, I wish she’d received the help she needed, I wish she was stronger to deal with the exposure she continuously sought out,

Are the media tit? Yes.

Does it hurt to have strangers and red tops comment on your life, your every move? Yes.

Does this need to change, it probably has always has needed to change.
But on both sides......her own peers still use the media when it suits (case in point Laura Whitmore) it’s there when they need exposure, but when they annoy me I can cry bully and rant about privacy online, dragging Caroline’s name back into the mix.

The Caroline case has always been an extreme, and extremely sad case, she was failed. So many who struggle with their mental health are. Daily. And they meet the same ending.
Media headlines or not. Because they couldn’t go on, most alone, never known about by the public, because they didn’t get the help they needed.

I shouldn’t be going into so much detail when the show hasn’t even aired yet BUT....
I’ve been around these parts for a while, I KNOW we will have users who hit out at forums like this and probably a fair few new members who attempt to call us scum for having opinions on celebrity culture,
celebrities who need and court exposure (both good and bad) in order to keep them relevant and rich. Can we not do that, can we NOT argue with each other and tell each other what we can/should/shouldn’t do. These sites are trolling nobody, in the same way we discuss the latest Netflix series earning millions, we discuss the latest “I’m pregnant” “I have my own clothing line” influencer making millions.
Gossip has always been around, it always will, we’ve moved from the garden fence to a forum away from anyone’s social media platforms, still stings to read if you search it out? For sure.
But can we all agree to not attack each other and be calm and respectful when posting.

Wow these are long rambles at the start of a thread 😐
and I’m open to changing my mind a million times in an hour when this airs, but right now I see a girl who should never have been in the public eye, who could never deal with it (or the exposure that comes with the job) long, long before she stepped in front of a camera for the first time.
 
I’m feeling very very sad to be honest.
I think ultimately she was a very sad and sensitive person who did an amazing job at masking it. I don’t know fully what happened that evening but I do know 100% that her end did not need to happen. She also had a lot of people in her life who clearly adored her which I think is a sign of someone genuine. Poor girl
 
It's such a hard programe to watch. You can clearly tell her close friends knew how vulnerable she was. Fame for someone with her personality traits should never have happened. Yes the press are horrific but unfortunately this is the cruel world we now live in and I think we were all guilty of thinking negative of her when all the abuse claims about her came to light. I personally think she if wasn't famous the same type of fate would have happened. She attracted narcissistic men who prayed on her vulnerability. Ultimately the only person who could have saved her was herself.
 
sadly its a case of having that ball of energy that made her want to be famous, i didnt ever see her as fame hungry though, i actually thought she had the personality for live TV and was very good at it, X factor was going down the pan by the time her and Olly took over so i think they got the hassle for it and because they were the new presenters sort of took the blame, but Simon Cowell should have realised it just wasnt working and should have given it a break or shouldnt have bothered bringing it back that year.

I remember her being in Bo Selecta decades ago as bubbles the chimp, i remember her first presenting was that Sunday Morning kids tv thing with Sam and Mark , i used to watch it as it was funny , and then its obvious she would move up to bigger jobs because of ambition money and fame, but the bigger star you become the more the papers want to find stuff on you, and if you cant deal with it then you soon find its not the same as doing a sunday morning tv job.

I think she is the first celeb ive really seen their career move on throughout the years, so i find it very sad, its unbelievable really and doesnt seem real

Many people are so fragile underneath their outward persona. The media persecution when Caroline was in her darkest moments, is utterly shameful. Poor Caroline. 💜
There was no need for it either , she was a friendly person and she seemed very open, if they had left her alone she probably would have spoken about it all when it was over, , so its not like they had to pursue her like that, the sad thing is is i think she took the press stories as it being worse than everything was, 6 months it would have been forgotten and she would have got another job, there wasnt many female presenters that can do live tv like she could, but ive been there when you feel suicidal then life doesnt seem worth it.

The amount of people the press harassed to death is frightening and nothing is done to stop it , they become apologetic for 2 months then its back to hassling people again
 
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It was a heartbreaking watch, I still remember the moment my friend walked into my dining room and told us Caroline had died. I remember sitting in my car listening to the news about her trial in 2019 and wondering what drove her to do what she did, and feeling so awful for her that every detail available was being discussed so publicly.

I think this doc came at the right time when more conversations are starting to happen around mental health in a more public way. It also shines a light on the dangers of social media.

On another note, when Olly said about the hate they got after they were promoted to The X Factor main show, "I know I got it, but she got it so much worse. I don't know why."

Sexism, Olly. It was sexism.
 
It is sad to watch and it’s clear from a young age she struggled with mental health issues and then the pressure and media attention fame brought.
If she was not in the public eye what happened that night between her and Lewis would never of been front page news.
The media hounded her at her most vulnerable just to get a story and unfortunately she paid with her life.
 
The posts on social media were awful, relentless every time she put a foot wrong. Going back to how women are treated in the media, it’s just disgusting. Meghan, Caroline, Diana to name a few. As the doc shows, all the negativity was a massive trigger for Caroline, fuelled by the media. One thing I thought was that she died not knowing how much people loved her. I wasn’t a Love Island/X Factor viewer but you can see what a fun-loving, good friend she was. Rest in Peace, Caroline 💖
 
I fel like it was well balanced. They didn't hide the things she did that were questionable and it's clear from a very young age she was fragile, so I'm glad it wasn't painted like it came out of the blue and no one was blamed. But I thought they did a very good job of highlighting the impact that trolling and media had on her.
It showed her complex nature and indeed that no human is simple. She was clearly a vivacious and well love woman. It's sad she couldn't find her happiness.

Her family and friends were clearly in pain and I think they were brave to make this show.
 
I know it’s been said before, but the comparisons between Caroline’s and Ant McPartlin’s misdemeanours is shocking. Comparable as they both were (still are) big stars at the same TV channel. Caroline is vilified through all aspects of the media, loses her job within days of the incident whereas Ant is left alone to sort his tit out in rehab and keep his job! You didn’t see anything like the kind of trolling, if any. When will it stop!
 
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