Cancer Influencers #4

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Simbama12 said:
I find this so so sad. My biggest fear, and my mums when she was dying was being forgotten … they have totally forgotten Rachel it’s absoloutely horrendous. SB being the worst with his over compensating posts about the new wife, it doesn’t come across as being totally in love btw Steve it stinks of trying to convince yourself and everybody else of your perfect love, yuck.
and I’m sorry but I hate people being given honorary degrees it means FA to those of us who have studied and are in debt to get ours.
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I don't have a problem with Deborah being given a posthumous honorary degree and I can see it gave her family some comfort and made them proud, quite rightly. But I have a massive problem with people who are basically more interested in their own self-promotion than they are helping other people, being given any sort of honours. Bland Man has achieved nothing of note other than to be married to somebody lovely who did actually start the podcast and deserve a big mention yesterday - and Lauren - yes, she's survived cancer and was part of the podcast but what is she truly doing to raise awareness, other than raising awareness of her own sorry lifestyle? And yes, it's an insult to those who have worked hard for years to get degrees.
 
Simbama12 said:
I find this so so sad. My biggest fear, and my mums when she was dying was being forgotten … they have totally forgotten Rachel it’s absoloutely horrendous. SB being the worst with his over compensating posts about the new wife, it doesn’t come across as being totally in love btw Steve it stinks of trying to convince yourself and everybody else of your perfect love, yuck.
and I’m sorry but I hate people being given honorary degrees it means FA to those of us who have studied and are in debt to get ours.
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It annoys me when celebs get honorary degrees. To me I'd rather it was stopped or give a student from a disadvantaged background a free uni education, especially if it was going to be in a medical or other degree that would benefit society.

Can they apply for jobs using that degree if it's an honorary one?
 
I used to be involved in awarding honorary degrees and they are different to normal ones and are not the same at all. They are partly a way of gaining publicity for the University, partly a way of livening up a degree ceremony (having someone of note attending) and partly a way of allowing the University make links with people who have reached some sort of standing in their industry.
 
penny1992 said:
I'm confused. It sounds like bowelbro is talking about a different oncologist than the private one he is seeing on his latest post? Am I missing something?
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The oncologist that Rich (aka BowelBro) has seen is a physician (as opposed to a surgeon, like Mr Jamie Murphy).

Oncologists look after the side of cancer that can be treated by chemo, immunotherapy etc

Surgeons - of various types - will play their part in cancer diagnosis & treatment and some specialise in oncologic surgery (ie the surgical treatment of cancer), just to confuse the terminology a bit more!

The letter from Basingstoke that Rich read was addressed to his GP, who forwarded that copy to him (at his insistence). Since then, the letter has been interpreted to Rich - and his wife - who are now able to better understand why Basingstoke declined to operate.

I suspect the letter was written from “doctor to doctor” and it was always expected that a doctor - in this case his oncologist - would sit down with Rich & his wife and explain the rationale behind Basingstoke’s decision.

Further info in his Q&A today (screenshot below). Also his - very polite in my opinion - answer to some complete d*ck who got in touch to mention/recommend/offer writing a will!!!!
 

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DoctorFlocci said:
The oncologist that Rich (aka BowelBro) has seen is a physician (as opposed to a surgeon, like Mr Jamie Murphy).

Oncologists look after the side of cancer that can be treated by chemo, immunotherapy etc

Surgeons - of various types - will play their part in cancer diagnosis & treatment and some specialise in oncologic surgery (ie the surgical treatment of cancer), just to confuse the terminology a bit more!

The letter from Basingstoke that Rich read was addressed to his GP, who forwarded that copy to him (at his insistence). Since then, the letter has been interpreted to Rich - and his wife - who are now able to better understand why Basingstoke declined to operate.

I suspect the letter was written from “doctor to doctor” and it was always expected that a doctor - in this case his oncologist - would sit down with Rich & his wife and explain the rationale behind Basingstoke’s decision.

Further info in his Q&A today (screenshot below). Also his - very polite in my opinion - answer to some complete d*ck who got in touch to mention/recommend/offer writing a will!!!!
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Thanks for explaining!

I think recommending a will was sound advice but very insensitive timing.

I know young couples where one half has died from cancer and they did not have a Will/beneficiary/power of attorney/life insurance set up and it turned into an absolute nightmare for the spouse. In some cases the deceased's family reared their ugly heads and tried to take stuff away from the spouse and due to there being no will it got incredibly messy. Please, regardless of if you are young and healthy make sure you have all your ducks in a row in that sense.
 
penny1992 said:
Thanks for explaining!

I think recommending a will was sound advice but very insensitive timing.

I know young couples where one half has died from cancer and they did not have a Will/beneficiary/power of attorney/life insurance set up and it turned into an absolute nightmare for the spouse. In some cases the deceased's family reared their ugly heads and tried to take stuff away from the spouse and due to there being no will it got incredibly messy. Please, regardless of if you are young and healthy make sure you have all your ducks in a row in that sense.
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Exactly this! I may be remembering wrong (chemo brain!) but we had a friend who when she was dying explained to us about the importance of making a will as its not always guaranteed that your husband/partner gets everything. Also if they have to deal with cancelling stuff too it may be hard. She had older kids too with a different man but she said , if they had been younger they probably would have had a nightmare after as to who their care went to if she hadn't specified in her will. Saying all this I still need to do mine 😂
 
blue1791 said:
Judging by the IG comments (Ooh Dr Deborah! Etc) a lot of people don’t seem to realise BB already had an honorary doctorate from the Royal Marsden
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If she already had one, why tf was this one given? I really, really feel for Rach and her family, how sad. It’s her legacy, and yes Deb did amaaaaazing things, but the pod, the plan, the vision is / was Rachael’s
 
Steve now saying 'just because it doesn't go on Insta, doesn't mean it doesn't happen, of course Rachael was honoured' blah blah blah.

Well if that's the case then there is no need to tag @bowelbabe on every single post, no need to post multiple photos and videos of your wedding with captions such as 'this woman is my destiny', no need to try and raise your sorry profile through Instagram at all is there? He tagged everyone in that post but couldn't even be bothered to mention Rachaels name.

What an utter, utter prick. He is so obviously just out for himself and what he can get.

When Rachael died, and while she was alive and used to talk about him, he seemed like such a lovely sound bloke. But my opinion of him has completely changed. He just comes across as a total bellend, some of his behaviour has been appalling, i can't understand it at all.

I get that he may well be honoring Rachael in private, but this is a bloke who essentially lives his life through Instagram now, and on such an important occasion you would think he would have the decency to mention her publicly. Anyway, everyone knows it was her who started it all and that Steve and Lauren are just desperate hangers on. Rachael was immensely classy and professional and started the pod to genuinely help people - that always came across on the pod. Steve, Lauren, and Deborah tbh were only really ever doing it to raise their own profiles.

Sorry, this has turned in to a total rant, but I am just agog at this today!
 
Glitteryflipflops said:
Steve now saying 'just because it doesn't go on Insta, doesn't mean it doesn't happen, of course Rachael was honoured' blah blah blah.

Well if that's the case then there is no need to tag @bowelbabe on every single post, no need to post multiple photos and videos of your wedding with captions such as 'this woman is my destiny', no need to try and raise your sorry profile through Instagram at all is there? He tagged everyone in that post but couldn't even be bothered to mention Rachaels name.

What an utter, utter prick. He is so obviously just out for himself and what he can get.

When Rachael died, and while she was alive and used to talk about him, he seemed like such a lovely sound bloke. But my opinion of him has completely changed. He just comes across as a total bellend, some of his behaviour has been appalling, i can't understand it at all.

I get that he may well be honoring Rachael in private, but this is a bloke who essentially lives his life through Instagram now, and on such an important occasion you would think he would have the decency to mention her publicly. Anyway, everyone knows it was her who started it all and that Steve and Lauren are just desperate hangers on. Rachael was immensely classy and professional and started the pod to genuinely help people - that always came across on the pod. Steve, Lauren, and Deborah tbh were only really ever doing it to raise their own profiles.

Sorry, this has turned in to a total rant, but I am just agog at this today!
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Totally agree with all that you've written (y)(y)
 
In the earlier YMBC podcasts, SB seemed a bit quieter than the DJ and LM. I thought he seemed thoughtful and quite introspective. I am amazed by his recent actions. I wasn't keen on the shoe selling, the wedding and constant reiterings of "the best day ever" and now this tagging without his wife - it is bad. I'm not sure if I misread him in the first instance or if he is being influenced by the new wife.
 
Curly Top said:
In the earlier YMBC podcasts, SB seemed a bit quieter than the DJ and LM. I thought he seemed thoughtful and quite introspective. I am amazed by his recent actions. I wasn't keen on the shoe selling, the wedding and constant reiterings of "the best day ever" and now this tagging without his wife - it is bad. I'm not sure if I misread him in the first instance or if he is being influenced by the new wife.
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I totally agree. In the beginning he seemed very much like Rachael - quiet, professional and thoughtful. I don't know what has changed or if now we are seeing the 'real' Steve or if Instafame is just going to his head, but it's not good either way.

Amy has now posted about it - she has at least had the decency to mention Rachael but only as an afterthought at the end, as if she was just on the periphery of it as well, rather than the woman who came up with entire podcast and who was responsible for its best episodes by miles! Most of the post is about how great it was seeing 'my guy front and centre'. Plus on the reel, lots of photos of Amy herself.

I can't work out if these people are for real or what? I wouldn't normally be so invested, but that podcast was a lifeline for me when I was ill, I loved listening to it and to see it end up this way as a mere vehicle for exposure is so sad. I don't slag off people for how they look, or be negative about irrelevant stuff just for the sake of having a pop at someone, or any of that. But the behaviour of these people has really pissed me off!

By the way, do we need a new thread, how many posts until full?
 
DoctorFlocci said:
The oncologist that Rich (aka BowelBro) has seen is a physician (as opposed to a surgeon, like Mr Jamie Murphy).

Oncologists look after the side of cancer that can be treated by chemo, immunotherapy etc

Surgeons - of various types - will play their part in cancer diagnosis & treatment and some specialise in oncologic surgery (ie the surgical treatment of cancer), just to confuse the terminology a bit more!

The letter from Basingstoke that Rich read was addressed to his GP, who forwarded that copy to him (at his insistence). Since then, the letter has been interpreted to Rich - and his wife - who are now able to better understand why Basingstoke declined to operate.

I suspect the letter was written from “doctor to doctor” and it was always expected that a doctor - in this case his oncologist - would sit down with Rich & his wife and explain the rationale behind Basingstoke’s decision.

Further info in his Q&A today (screenshot below). Also his - very polite in my opinion - answer to some complete d*ck who got in touch to mention/recommend/offer writing a will!!!!
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I agree that it was insensitive timing, but the whole "I don't need a will, we're married so they'll get everything" line annoys me so much.
It's NOT guaranteed they'll get everything if you don't have a will. Even if they do, it's more complicated for them to sort out (at a time they REALLY don't need to be sorting out lazy spouse errors) and it takes longer to receive the 'everything' without a will.

Yes, it's dull to do.
But if literally everything is going to a spouse, it takes less than an hour and it's being offered to him for free so not even costing him money!

Please people, get a will.
Once you are gone, it's your loved ones that are important.
Why, during one of the worst times of their lives, would you expect them to spend days and days sorting out crap that you could have done for them in an hour?!
 
Miffy29 said:
How does he get it free? I missed that.
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My mistake. The original poster said 'offer' so I'd presumed offered for free.

I stand by my point though.
Even if he has to pay, a straightforward will like that can be done for £80.
Even less if it's a DIY one and witnessed.
That's worth it compared to the tit a loved one has to go through if their loved one hasn't done one.
 
YogaKitty444 said:
My mistake. The original poster said 'offer' so I'd presumed offered for free.

I stand by my point though.
Even if he has to pay, a straightforward will like that can be done for £80.
Even less if it's a DIY one and witnessed.
That's worth it compared to the tit a loved one has to go through if their loved one hasn't done one.
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Yep I posted about it above too. I don't want my husband dealing with all the crap after.

Ahh thanks, I was wondering if he knew something I didn't 😂
 
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