Britney Spears #12 Twirling on Instagram flashing her tits, while we reminisce over her hits

Do you think Britney needs to be back under a conservatorship?

  • Yes

    Votes: 373 85.7%

  • No

    Votes: 62 14.3%
  • Total voters
    435
  • Poll closed .
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Apologies for upcoming essay.

Britney's possible diagnosis is extremely puzzling. She went from total breakdown to presenting as absolutely fine a few months later. That cannot happen if you have a serious mental health diagnosis no matter how much medication you're on. People have thrown around schizophrenia etc and it's just not possible even with medication for people with that serious a condition to function 'as they were' before symptoms presented to the point of being on a world tour. Medication can regulate and improve symptoms in some people but they aren't a cure and it usually takes months just to find the correct treatment that lets people start feeling functional.

The only diagnosis that would make sense for her rapid turnaround is an acute episode of depression, such as PPD.

No matter whether you think Britney now appears worryingly unwell (I agree she does) I look at Britney in 2008 and see how relatively together she was and how over the years of the supposedly helpful conservatorship she only really seemed to get worse. Her behaviour has become more erratic and unstable under the conditions that were supposedly helping her.

Basically, I believe her when she says that in 2007 she was depressed and acting out and didn't have any mental health condition that required something as severe as a conservatorship. I think she needed treatment for a possible episode of post partum psychosis.

Now, I also believe her that the last 13 years have been hell and think PTSD and depression have destroyed what remained of her mental health. I completely understand why she wouldn't seek the help she probably needs considering her experiences.
 
Britney Spears is a grown woman, making decisions about her music (Elton John, Wil.I.Am, etc) and supervising release of a tell-not-quite-all book.
She could have all the help in the world with her money, fame and power.
Instead, she parades semi-nude on Instagram claiming to be a different personality and exhibiting manic and worrying behaviour yet her fans defend her and you're sexist if you say anything about it.

She has every chance to sort herself out, and simply doesn't bother.

She's in need of serious psychiatric help and doesn't deaerve an ounce of sympathy.

(for the record, I also think Robbie Williams is mental and would say the same about any celeb exhibiting her behaviour, irrespective of gender)
 
If your family or friends posted nude photos you wouldn't find it a bit odd? I would. Her behaviour- not just the posting the nude pics- is odd, desperate and tragic. And you've totally twisted what people are saying. No one has said she doesn't deserve empathy because she posts nudes. What the poster was saying is that she has the resources and every chance to seek help and hasn't bothered
 
SqualorVictoria said:
If your family or friends posted nude photos you wouldn't find it a bit odd? I would. Her behaviour- not just the posting the nude pics- is odd, desperate and tragic. And you've totally twisted what people are saying. No one has said she doesn't deserve empathy because she posts nudes. What the poster was saying is that she has the resources and every chance to seek help and hasn't bothered
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Odd yes, I never said otherwise. I might have been misreading but I was just getting a different undercurrent.

My post above basically outlines why I believe she doesn't seek help, and why I think it's actually quite understandable she wouldn't. I still believe she's been a victim of people and a system who have failed her very, very badly. I guess i'm always a bit shocked coming into this thread and seeing just how much people seem to really hate her when I don't think some nudes and some half-truths or a victim complex really warrants it.
 
F1Grid said:
Honestly if half the current pop girlies busted out that routine stan twitter would be hyping it up. The bar is currently on the floor.

Absolutely Britney's worst though. She and her team should never have let it happen, anyone looking at the rehearsal would have known it would be piled on because of how good her previous VMA performances were. She didn't have the same spark, putting her in that bikini combo was heinous, the choreo was shit. And the rehearsal was a better than the actual performance! Should have pulled her last minute.

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Omg the stick on hair extensions are clearly visible at the start of the video. Even back then they looked shocking. 😯
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CMDisney said:
So, even in 2007 she was wearing these janky hair extensions. Others MUST have told her how horrid they are over the years. Yikes.

And, how does she pull her hair back all the time when they look like they are ALWAYS just about to fall out?

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ToxicPony said:
Odd yes, I never said otherwise. I might have been misreading but I was just getting a different undercurrent.

My post above basically outlines why I believe she doesn't seek help, and why I think it's actually quite understandable she wouldn't. I still believe she's been a victim of people and a system who have failed her very, very badly. I guess i'm always a bit shocked coming into this thread and seeing just how much people seem to really hate her when I don't think some nudes and some half-truths or a victim complex really warrants it.
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If this thread upsets you there’s a rave thread.
 
ToxicPony said:
I'm not trying to rave, I'm trying to discuss?
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You aren’t, you’re just here to wag your cyber finger at us and telling us how awful we are to poor Britney. Even stating your opinion as facts:
“She went from total breakdown to presenting as absolutely fine a few months later. That cannot happen if you have a serious mental health diagnosis no matter how much medication you're on. People have thrown around schizophrenia etc and it's just not possible even with medication for people with that serious a condition to function 'as they were' before symptoms presented to the point of being on a world tour.“

You only have as much idea as anyone else and I know several mental health professionals who would disagree with you.
 
Beverley Macker said:
You aren’t, you’re just here to wag your cyber finger at us and telling us how awful we are to poor Britney. Even stating your opinion as facts:
“She went from total breakdown to presenting as absolutely fine a few months later. That cannot happen if you have a serious mental health diagnosis no matter how much medication you're on. People have thrown around schizophrenia etc and it's just not possible even with medication for people with that serious a condition to function 'as they were' before symptoms presented to the point of being on a world tour.“

You only have as much idea as anyone else and I know several mental health professionals who would disagree with you.
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Considering I work in the sphere of neurological disorders, neuroscience and mental health my opinions are actually quite well informed, though I accept absolutely that they are simply my opinions, as are your posts.

I'm sorry you feel judged, it's not my intention.
 
ToxicPony said:
Odd yes, I never said otherwise. I might have been misreading but I was just getting a different undercurrent.

My post above basically outlines why I believe she doesn't seek help, and why I think it's actually quite understandable she wouldn't. I still believe she's been a victim of people and a system who have failed her very, very badly. I guess i'm always a bit shocked coming into this thread and seeing just how much people seem to really hate her when I don't think some nudes and some half-truths or a victim complex really warrants it.
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I don't disagree that she has been treated badly by some, let's face it when one has her kind of money they're going to attract leeches. But on the other hand she has made some terrible choices in that area. I certainly don't hate her, I find it sad that she could have had a nice life, settled into retirement, etc but instead is just a moneyed version of the local meth addict
 
dream23 said:
Did she mention Sam Lufti in her book at all?
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Not that I recall. Lynne mentioned Sam Lutfi a lot in her book. From what I recall:
- Sam used to secretly hide Britney's dogs, so she'd get really upset, and then play the hero when he "found" them.
- He used to hide information about her custody court dates, so she'd miss them

And many other things. I'm surprised she never mentioned him.

She does refer to Adnan Ghalib, but not by name. He is "the photographer".

www.insider.com

Britney Spears writes about a mystery photographer boyfriend in her new memoir — here's what you need to know about him

In her memoir, Spears recounts her three-month fling with Adnan Ghalib, which ended with her father filing a restraining order against him.
www.insider.com www.insider.com

From the book:

I didn’t know then that the photographer was married; I had no clue that I was essentially his mistress. I only found that out after we’d broken up.

Of course you didn't, Britney. Like how you didn't know KFed had a fiancée, who was 8 months pregnant, and a toddler daughter.

I remember the slogan t-shirts she started wearing when that news came out. She had been my hero until she met Kfed, but her behaviour from then on put me right off her. Walking around carrying his toddler daughter with a t-shirt saying "He loves me", knowing the fiancée will see these photos in the papers, was so rotten. Such a fucking pick-me.

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Britney can "hide" her behaviours somewhat, because, luckily, she's in the business of show. Her Instagram posts will get dismissed by stans as harmless exhibitionist behaviour. But she's doing it so regularly (and recently with KNIVES - surprised nobody has explained away that one - maybe it was some form of weird interpretive dance but some watching are gullible - maybe even a bit stupid - and will try to emulate her).

She is appearing, nearly every day, with panda eyes, hair in rat tails looking high, nearly showing her full vagina (not necessarily a terrible thing) but what is it she's trying to communicate? This doesn't look like freedom to me, it's objectification (sorry but some people will be watching to get their kicks, so she is pandering to them, knowingly or not). We've pretty much seen every inch of Britney now yet she keeps doing it again and again - what is her message? I think she does it to show defiance because she knows it pisses her family and loved ones off.

Do you think her sons are on board with her potentially humiliating herself this way?

But that's okay, because people are bullying a mentally ill person who just wants freedom and is expressing it. How dare we judge her or be concerned for her. Ignoring these red flags is pretty much infantilising her, because stans also have her on a pedestal and she can do no wrong (pretty much the way Britney behaves). It's not helping her, it's harming her.

Of course, we need to give an inch to get help, and self awareness is really lacking here. Britney likely has enough money to cushion herself from many harsh realities of life "ordinary" people have to deal with who are suffering, and she can pay off or bribe people if need be to stay on the same page. I'm guessing any aides or friends who dared to tell her the truth are long gone.

It's really sad.
 
And it's not just the weird dances and posing nude, it's the nonsensical captions and rambling. Stans can try to defend the rambling posts with "it's Britney! She's just being adorable and scatty!" or "loads of people post weird rambling things on Instagram!" or whatever but if she said those things in person people would cross the street to avoid her.

Oh and to the poster that made the comment about how mentally ill people don't need conservatorships, if no one needed them they wouldn't exist so clearly some people do need them and Britney is one of those people
 
SqualorVictoria said:
And it's not just the weird dances and posing nude, it's the nonsensical captions and rambling. Stans can try to defend the rambling posts with "it's Britney! She's just being adorable and scatty!" or "loads of people post weird rambling things on Instagram!" or whatever but if she said those things in person people would cross the street to avoid her.

Oh and to the poster that made the comment about how mentally ill people don't need conservatorships, if no one needed them they wouldn't exist so clearly some people do need them and Britney is one of those people
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That breathless, stream of consciouness rambling on her posts definitely sounds like someone under the influence. It's not cute or funny - if she types all that out (I doubt there's any proof reading going on) what must she be like in real life? On the rare occasions you do hear her speak she doesn't seem sober at all.

You'd cross the road to avoid someone like that IRL.

What must Sam Asghari make of it all. I know some put out the vague theory that he was just a carer / handler under the guise of husband but something must have happened for him to completely abandon the golden goose. Or did he love her? There were allegations that *she* was violent? Still have no idea if his intentions were benevolent or not. Yes, he's cute, but Madonna also surrounds herself with (creepily much younger) good-looking, not-famous guys (who probably go along with the ride to kickstart their own careers).

Sam definitely presents as "more together" than Britney, but it's hard to tell what goes on behind closed doors - and I doubt Britney would be up for another babysitting gig, after freeing herself from a conservatorship.

Edit: Is dancing naked / semi-naked day after day really "empowering"? Britney is basically saying "this is all I've got to keep my fan's attention". No new songs, nothing really meaningful to say. She could be doing charity work supporting women who have suffered similarly? She could perform at benefit concerts?

There must be more useful and genuinely powerful investments of her time and energy, but I think she's doing this because - she's not at all well and this is all she has. Is the bigger message that all women have is their bodies? As a genuinely successful person, Britney could do so much more. If she was well?

As for the stans swarming the thread, I've seen it happen in the middle of the night (UK time) but much of that got deleted. One telling others to "eff off", which isn't exactly mature discourse, and is just highlighting why this isn't the thread for them. By the way, I know this is Tattle, but I'm not cool with the "she'll be dead in a bath like Whitney" comments, either, as I don't wish anyone dead, even if it's black humour.

I'm not going to go into my opinions of Britney's music or talent but I think we can all agree she's still very, very famous. Not sure what sort of legacy she will leave, though.
 
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lamaitresse said:
That breathless, stream of consciouness rambling on her posts definitely sounds like someone under the influence. It's not cute or funny - if she types all that out (I doubt there's any proof reading going on) what must she be like in real life? On the rare occasions you do hear her speak she doesn't seem sober at all.

You'd cross the road to avoid someone like that IRL.

What must Sam Asghari make of it all. I know some put out the vague theory that he was just a carer / handler under the guise of husband but something must have happened for him to completely abandon the golden goose. Or did he love her? There were allegations that *she* was violent? Still have no idea if his intentions were benevolent or not. Yes, he's cute, but Madonna also surrounds herself with (creepily much younger) good-looking, not-famous guys (who probably go along with the ride to kickstart their own careers).

Sam definitely presents as "more together" than Britney, but it's hard to tell what goes on behind closed doors - and I doubt Britney would be up for another babysitting gig, after freeing herself from a conservatorship.

As for the stans swarming the thread, I've seen it happen in the middle of the night (UK time) but much of that got deleted. One telling others to "eff off", which isn't exactly mature discourse, and is just highlighting why this isn't the thread for them. By the way, I know this is Tattle, but I'm not cool with the "she'll be dead in a bath like Whitney" comments, either, as I don't wish anyone dead, even if it's black humour.

I'm not going to go into my opinions of Britney's music or talent but I think we can all agree she's still very, very famous. Not sure what sort of legacy she will leave, though.
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I know alot of people don't like Sam, I'm no fan either but my opinion on it is that I think he was one of the men that she was allowed to have a relationship with. I don't think he knew the extent of Britneys problems and when he got with her she was on medication and alot more stable. I don't think he anticipated what would happen when the CS ended and seeing Britney's behaviour spiral and he couldn't take it. She doesn't seem to have the same hatred for him that she does KFed or JT and Sam as of yet, hasn't bad mouthed her and still seems respectful towards her. I think in comparison to some, he's pretty harmless.

Re the "She'll be dead in a bathtub" comments, I personally have never said that but I have expressed concerns that I don't think she'll make it to 50. I don't think anybody wishes her dead when they make comments like that, far from it. If anything, everyone just wants her to get off social media and heal, go live her life, reconnect with her sons, that should be a priority.

I do agree with you, the thread as of late has been argumentative and unpleasant, I refrained from commenting for a few days because of that reason.
 
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