Alice Evans & Ioan Gruffudd #260 The War of the Rolexes

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When is the deadline for the rebuttal to Malice's RFO?

I think Janina knew it was a piece of crap but didn't want to get fired.
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Why do the kids only have narc mommie and the former maid, I wonder?

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I haven't gotten the chance to catch up, but came here to mention what a great post Bianca made; what a fantastic way to put paid to the "Rolex" rumor trash fire started by Alice and fanned by the DM! Brava! 👏🏼
I feel you Hiraeth. The great thing about online friendships is you meet amazing people from all over the world. The really crappy thing is you can't meet up in person and actually be there to physically support each other. Or just to hang out, get a little drunk and tit talk the walrus! ❤
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When is the deadline for the rebuttal to Malice's RFO?

I think Janina knew it was a piece of crap but didn't want to get fired.
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Why do the kids only have narc mommie and the former maid, I wonder?

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Idk if I'm surprised by Janina or not. With Alice's sterling reputation preceding her it makes sense she's scraping the bottom of the barrel for legal representation. And we all thought Bernal was going to be the shark!
 
You know, I’ve side eyed Gloria but now, I actually think she is scared of Alice and that’s why she goes with Alice’s ish. She has seen Alice at her angriest, drunkest and her meanest. She knows how long Alice can hold a grudge and after 8 years, those kids mean a lot to her. She knows Alice’s online usage and her ability to not only to hold resentment, but to relentlessly pursue revenge long after the matter is over.
 
You know, I’ve side eyed Gloria but now, I actually think she is scared of Alice and that’s why she goes with Alice’s ish. She has seen Alice at her angriest, drunkest and her meanest. She knows how long Alice can hold a grudge and after 8 years, those kids mean a lot to her. She knows Alice’s online usage and her ability to not only to hold resentment, but to relentlessly pursue revenge long after the matter is over.
I posted before I think Gloria did what was easiest and most convenient for her. We assume she has a good heart and loves the girls, but what in her actions shows that? The one time she stopped the car to let Ioan hug Elsie? She had plenty of opportunities to help the girls by helping Ioan but her actions show she never did. Ioan was actually the one paying her and she still chose to support Alice over him. Maybe she is scared of Alice. Maybe Alice has paid her off. Or maybe Gloria is just another FM and like most of Alice's FM's is more like Alice than we know... 🤷‍♀️ Either way, I have no respect for her at all and I don't believe she genuinely cares for the girls.
 
I posted before I think Gloria did what was easiest and most convenient for her. We assume she has a good heart and loves the girls, but what in her actions shows that? The one time she stopped the car to let Ioan hug Elsie? She had plenty of opportunities to help the girls by helping Ioan but her actions show she never did. Ioan was actually the one paying her and she still chose to support Alice over him. Maybe she is scared of Alice. Maybe Alice has paid her off. Or maybe Gloria is just another FM and like most of Alice's FM's is more like Alice than we know... 🤷‍♀️ Either way, I have no respect for her at all and I don't believe she genuinely cares for the girls.
That’s fair and respect what you’ve said but we’re only going by Alice. And for all we know, she was keeping Alice onside while secretly keeping Ioan updated. Maybe she refused the suitcase cause she was scared and later on texted him to tell him that, he understood and they formed an alliance. Idk. But the power imbalance between a privileged white woman who is abusive and delights in her own nastiness and an immigrant domestic worker exists. And whether Gloria is protecting her livelihood, her the kids, herself from Alice’s wrath, Gloria probably knows Alice best and knows exactly what Alice is capable of. I almost feel like that alone should give her a pass for some things because she doesn’t want to be in Alice’s crosshairs and she was unfortunately (for her) employed by them when the divorce kicked off. It’s is not fun being the nanny between splitting couples, especially one is a vindictive bleep.
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ETA don’t discount me forgetting a huge part of the story/evidence that shows that Gloria was complicit because I do remember side eyeing
 
Siwan is naturally prettier than Malice too, even in her Paris heyday. All the different noses didn't improve AFE either. Lovely brunette hair too rather than fake bottle blonde done badly.
Another thing the buffalo would be jealous of, Siwan is clearly a daddy's girl and she has a good relationship with her dad. Something the buffalo can't claim about her relationship with her dad. David Evans went NC. How horrible do you have to be for your own parent to go NC with you.
 
That’s fair and respect what you’ve said but we’re only going by Alice. And for all we know, she was keeping Alice onside while secretly keeping Ioan updated. Maybe she refused the suitcase cause she was scared and later on texted him to tell him that, he understood and they formed an alliance. Idk. But the power imbalance between a privileged white woman who is abusive and delights in her own nastiness and an immigrant domestic worker exists. And whether Gloria is protecting her livelihood, her the kids, herself from Alice’s wrath, Gloria probably knows Alice best and knows exactly what Alice is capable of. I almost feel like that alone should give her a pass for some things because she doesn’t want to be in Alice’s crosshairs and she was unfortunately (for her) employed by them when the divorce kicked off. It’s is not fun being the nanny between splitting couples, especially one is a vindictive bleep.
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ETA don’t discount me forgetting a huge part of the story/evidence that shows that Gloria was complicit because I do remember side eyeing
Yeah, I was thinking after I posted that Alice could have ended Gloria's career completely so it's definitely not black and white. Ultimately I feel like Gloria did what was best for her, and while I can't condemn her for that, especially in her situation, I do feel like she's one of many who have let those kids down, and it sort of hits harder because she was their nanny.

ETA: the only real certainty is that MAlice fucks up everything and every one she touches.
 
@brie l if you can, get your hands on one of these Oodies. They are really warm, soft and luxurious - just the thing if you're renovating in ❄ ☃ I'm practically living in mine.
I'm on my phone and I don't know how to link their site but it's Oodie.com. They really are worth it, and genuinely warmer than any other brand I've tried in the same style.
 
I do believe Gloria cares for the kids. When Ioan was away working it was her taking care of them as per his court papers. If Gloria had seen everything Alice claims wouldn’t she have been in court for Alice’s domestic violence restraining order, or do a written character statement in support or something?

Alice needs her atm though. For sure. That 3k in utilities needs to go somewhere. Allegedly.
 
I posted before I think Gloria did what was easiest and most convenient for her. We assume she has a good heart and loves the girls, but what in her actions shows that? The one time she stopped the car to let Ioan hug Elsie? She had plenty of opportunities to help the girls by helping Ioan but her actions show she never did. Ioan was actually the one paying her and she still chose to support Alice over him. Maybe she is scared of Alice. Maybe Alice has paid her off. Or maybe Gloria is just another FM and like most of Alice's FM's is more like Alice than we know... 🤷‍♀️ Either way, I have no respect for her at all and I don't believe she genuinely cares for the girls.
Keep in mind she was going through cancer treatment (or presumably had bills from that), and this was her only job. I get why she did what she had to do. Alice probably fed her a pack of lies about the situation anyway.
 
I wonder if Bianca meant she had to sell things when she left the marriage, or if, like Ioan, she actually had to flee without her belongings?
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Given Alice thinks posing with a fake diamond ring by sticking a finger up her nose is classy, I think we can all guess the who wears them better headlines.
I wonder if Bianca is implying she had to leave her abusive marriage, like IG, with only the clothes on her back. If so, no wonder they bonded so thoroughly and completely.
 
I get the made up claim about Ioan buying Bianca a Rolex - because Bianca posted a photo of a watch, not a Rolex, but a watch.
Alice has milked that for sympathy in the press with her bullshit RFO.
So she can claim 'oh it looked like a Rolex I genuinely thought that's what it was' - a lie...but one she might get away with.
But how does she get to 'he bought them BOTH Rolexes'
I mean, she can't even claim a mistaken belief that the watch he was seen wearing was a Rolex because he hasn't posted anything and she hasn't seen his wrist for four years
 
@brie l if you can, get your hands on one of these Oodies. They are really warm, soft and luxurious - just the thing if you're renovating in ❄ ☃ I'm practically living in mine.
I'm on my phone and I don't know how to link their site but it's Oodie.com. They really are worth it, and genuinely warmer than any other brand I've tried in the same style.
That is so funny you recommended the Oodie, my 19 year old step daughter lives in hers and keeps telling me I should get one. I'm the type of person that strips off my work clothes as soon as I get home and put on my comfy pants and fluffy socks so I feel I would be an Oodie devote. I was cold all day today. I got home tonight and jumped into the shower just to try and warm up.
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99% certain Gloria is Vlad
Ok, that made me laugh.
 
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