Zoella #3 Joe Sugg's Sister & Pet Neglector

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I think it’s blatently obvious that Alfie is bored rigid of Zoe. She’s happiest in bed at 5pm in her granny pjs watching the chase eating junk food. She dresses and like a frump and even her hair has got majorly dull. He stays with her for the money
I’ve no sympathy for either of them. They seem happiest when they are exploiting teen fans with tit merch and products to fund their ‘goalzzzz’ lifestyle. The deserve each other and I’d be glad if they are learning money doesn’t buy them happiness
 
Is Zoe faking liking Dianne and Just using her for the views. As she dose't like anyone that she can't instantly turn into the new Poppy or Mark. Would she be the type to try and ruin Joe and Dianne's relationships as she upset and jealous?
Well she’s definitely using her and her relationship with Joe for views but I can’t tell if she actually likes her or not.I can tell you that she definitely won’t be becoming the new Poppy anytime soon though.I think the more serious Joe and Diannes relationship gets the more she’ll dislike her:LOL: This moment from ?Joes vlog killed me as nobody ever calls them out on their tit but Dianne did:ROFLMAO:
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I thought of the posts here about their nasty pool when Joe and Dianne wanted to go in and after trying to avoid it Zalfie finally just said the pool was closed.
 
There comes a time in a relationship with a commitment phobe where you have to make an ultimatum,
I’ve seen it several times .
Some end up finishing and the guy thinks it over and realises that he doesn’t wanna lose his love and they get on with it , some do not and part ways .
Many are happy to keep it casual , but if you’re looking for a commitment such as marriage and have ticked all the other boxes like , love , moved in etc then you have to be straight ,
In fact wouldn’t you have a plan before buying a house , eg we buy the house then once we’ve got it the way we like , we save for the wedding .
I dunno if Zoe wants the next step she needs to be candid and make a stand as those ovaries are not gonna last forever , if she wants to use them that is ?‍♀️
I don’t feel any woman should settle everyone is entitled to the life they really want , whatever that may be , if Alfie hasn’t popped the question by now he isn’t going to without a push from Zoe imho
Sorry not been on this thread and it’s a reply from a while back ???
 
I agree @Charlotte1993

No one should just 'settle' in their relationship. The rumblings of Zoe and Alfie having trouble in paradise isn't new either. This has been years in the making. Zoe is either really thick or thought she would be able to change Alfie's mind. When you agreed to live with him and near his family and friends... it's an environment in which they all enable Alfie's toxic man-baby ways. Of course, Alfie is never going to learn or mature. He's never had a reason to.

She jumped all in with Alfie by buying that mansion without realizing that Alfie gets the best of both worlds and doesn't have to give an inch in their relationship. He gets a nice house to live in, a 'girlfriend' for his thumbnails, and also gets to do his own thing with his friends. Having a life separate from your partner is perfectly fine but the fact Zoe and Alfie rarely do anything together other than to shop or go into work (when they can be bothered to) is pretty troubling. It's fine if pubs and rock climbing isn't Zoe's thing but that girl never wants to leave the house to do different things w/ Alfie. No wonder the relationship is in shambles. Business and the mansion is the only thing keeping them together. They don't share similar interests and hobbies. She has no friends other than Mark. She created a situation of her own making where she's dependent on Alfie since it's his circle of family and friends.

Even in their body language you can tell somethings off. Whether it's in photos and vlogs, it seems Zoe is always initiating touch like hand holding or complimenting/giving praise to Alfie. And WHEN Alfie does initiate affection it's strictly for the views but not because he fancies her. I would feel bad but these two are so awful. So unless Zoe grows up and finally moves on w/o Alfie, all her moaning and whining is not going to garner any sympathy from me. She's got the means, the time, and opportunity to move on. There are no kids to make the separation more difficult either. Instead she wants to hang onto her dead-in-the-water relationship for some inane reason. If Alfie was a great boyfriend I'd understand but he's not even that. A wet cardboard box has more personality than him. She needs to move on instead of obsessing over a ring and thinking it will magically fix their relationship.
 
I've never properly thought about just how much Zoe's given up for him.She moved to his hometown,ditched her own family for his,all of her 'friends' are in some way related to him,she's the one that owned that house,she's given up her 'dream life' of the whole settled married family life for him.My mum told me once to compromise but never sacrifice as once you give up all your hopes and dreams for someone elses,youre done for.
 
I might have mentioned it before a while ago but I can’t remember. Some of you might have heard of a comedian called Daniel Sloss, he’s got a couple of amazing Netflix Comedy specials, both well worth a watch, and in Jigsaw he does this big thing about relationships and being in the right relationship and how you should break up if your aren’t. It is very good and he is spot on, and has caused the breakup of around 20,000 I think, as well as some marriages and engagements.

I definitely think Zoe and Alfie should watch it together, see if it can get through their thick skulls they aren’t meant to be and would be better off breaking up. It is one of their only couple activities together, watching Netflix, so they should be able to manage it.
 
I had a dream last night (LOL) that Zoe broke up with Alfie. I really hope she does. I still have a bit of a soft spot for her and I think it is because I watched her videos from the beginning, where she did the facts about me with the Kate Nash song.

Just because she won't be married / pregnant by 30 isn't the be all and end all. She could take some time for herself and meet a really great, mature guy. So many women are having kids later in life and that is ok.

I think it would be the best thing for her to break up with Alfie.
 
I agree @Charlotte1993

No one should just 'settle' in their relationship. The rumblings of Zoe and Alfie having trouble in paradise isn't new either. This has been years in the making. Zoe is either really thick or thought she would be able to change Alfie's mind. When you agreed to live with him and near his family and friends... it's an environment in which they all enable Alfie's toxic man-baby ways. Of course, Alfie is never going to learn or mature. He's never had a reason to.

She jumped all in with Alfie by buying that mansion without realizing that Alfie gets the best of both worlds and doesn't have to give an inch in their relationship. He gets a nice house to live in, a 'girlfriend' for his thumbnails, and also gets to do his own thing with his friends. Having a life separate from your partner is perfectly fine but the fact Zoe and Alfie rarely do anything together other than to shop or go into work (when they can be bothered to) is pretty troubling. It's fine if pubs and rock climbing isn't Zoe's thing but that girl never wants to leave the house to do different things w/ Alfie. No wonder the relationship is in shambles. Business and the mansion is the only thing keeping them together. They don't share similar interests and hobbies. She has no friends other than Mark. She created a situation of her own making where she's dependent on Alfie since it's his circle of family and friends.

Even in their body language you can tell somethings off. Whether it's in photos and vlogs, it seems Zoe is always initiating touch like hand holding or complimenting/giving praise to Alfie. And WHEN Alfie does initiate affection it's strictly for the views but not because he fancies her. I would feel bad but these two are so awful. So unless Zoe grows up and finally moves on w/o Alfie, all her moaning and whining is not going to garner any sympathy from me. She's got the means, the time, and opportunity to move on. There are no kids to make the separation more difficult either. Instead she wants to hang onto her dead-in-the-water relationship for some inane reason. If Alfie was a great boyfriend I'd understand but he's not even that. A wet cardboard box has more personality than him. She needs to move on instead of obsessing over a ring and thinking it will magically fix their relationship.

I agree 100% I think you are on the money
I’m wondering if joe being loved up atm is touching a sore nerve ,
Sometimes seeing a couple happy will magnify how stale a relationship has become when it has gone sour ,
People tend to muddle on but seeing joe so happy and in love may have opened Zoe’s eyes , let’s hope so she needs an extrovert someone to get her out and about , someone fun who thinks she is hot as hell etc .
 
In Joe's latest vlog Zoella seems a bit manic tbh. Lots of high pitched forced inane giggling. I think she can't handle Dianne at all in that she can't manipulate her. Her relationships with other women (Tanya, Louise, her employees, Poppy) always seemed to be based on her patronising them, dictating things, laughing at them & them being in awe of her (god alone knows why). Dianne has burst into their group obviously the alpha female with a good career, physically strong, chatty & completely unimpressed by Zalfie. Alfie & Zoe look like rather odd old fuddy duddies next to her and Joe. And I bet Dianne is baffled by this need to take 'a week off' - from what?
 
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