Zoe Bee Beauty

[Sunshine01Snow]

It’s usually around a grand, sometimes less but interestingly she hasn’t mentioned donating for a long time. What fucked me off is the dog she had from a pup, surely if you were that invested in dog charities, you’d find a dog that needed rehoming? I know it’s sometimes difficult given the age of her kids to find a suitable dog, but there would of definitely been options or a waiting list.


She will come for you! She sent one poster on here a cease and desist by the sounds of things a while back. I bet that person was literally selling enough to put a bit of extra food on the table. She must really get the hump over people under cutting her, and guess what of course they can do that quite comfortably since all the ingredients don’t break the bank!!

That cease and decease threat wouldn’t have managed to get any further than being just that- a threat. Unless the other lady had copied her trademarked name or logo.
I know a fair amount about intellectual property laws from the fashion industry. I can only imagine how impossible it would be to have a patent for a skin care cream. All someone would need to do would be tweak your ingredients by a small percent, or add an additional different oil to the Shea, and boom in the eyes of the law they have a new product. Plus most of her cream formulations are readily available on tutorials on various websites and blogs that teach people how to make basic creams.

 

[whathastheworldcometo]

Read the daily fail article! She wasn’t doing any of that, the numpty didn’t even have ingredients on her jars in 2016!
it’s amazing how she actually managed to get as far as she has without being shut down.
Just seen tonight’s stories, I see the PA is there with her oh and lots of woe is me quotes about apologies that she never got.

So after all this time ZB, I apologise profusely for never being dumb enough to bend over and kiss your deceitful rotten bum hole, and I also apologise on behalf of all those who enabled you and turned you in to an even worse bleeping monster.

Do you know if she has her creams certified?
I agree with you, shocking that she didn't list ingredients and still survived!

That cease and decease threat wouldn’t have managed to get any further than being just that- a threat. Unless the other lady had copied her trademarked name or logo.
I know a fair amount about intellectual property laws from the fashion industry. I can only imagine how impossible it would be to have a patent for a skin care cream. All someone would need to do would be tweak your ingredients by a small percent, or add an additional different oil to the Shea, and boom in the eyes of the law they have a new product. Plus most of her cream formulations are readily available on tutorials on various websites and blogs that teach people how to make basic creams.

Yes, I don't think that she could legitimately threaten anyone.

I just thought that the beauty market was so crowded, I really wonder how she managed to scoop so many sales.
There are so many established brands that are competing AND her stuff is not cheap!

ETA: I now read the article - it even includes a recipe. I think she did well.

Her website also states that the creams are fully "compliant" so I guess she has certificates etc.

But she needs a copywriter, her product descriptions are poorly written. And "suitable for adults and babies" - does that mean not suitable for children? Strange descriptions and the grammar isn't great.

But given that she more or less runs everything by herself she did well.

 

[Oppyonion]

Do you know if she has her creams certified?
I agree with you, shocking that she didn't list ingredients and still survived!



Yes, I don't think that she could legitimately threaten anyone.

I just thought that the beauty market was so crowded, I really wonder how she managed to scoop so many sales.
There are so many established brands that are competing AND her stuff is not cheap!

Hype...and more hype...
Sell (gift ) to a few desperate Z listers.
Get yourself in the papers for absolutely anything (and I mean anything! Can’t get a mortgage? Do a ZB and her hubby and go to the papers )
Once a bit of interest starts building, film rows of lots of jars you’ve just made, claim you’re selling hundreds that week - see the thing is those rows of creams could of been made up and shipped out at any time, not necessarily when she just made them, but she could still pretend she was selling mega amounts.

Open an online shop a few times a week at set times, do the 3-2-1 countdown, people start getting itchy for it, claim you’ve sold out (even if you haven’t) the next week comes around, do the same again...people start getting desperate and set alarms for it, hype builds, purchase followers so it seems like it booms quickly within a few weeks.

Stand next to piles of boxes or post bags - just don’t be a donut and post the exact same photo of yourself next to said post bags a month after the first time you posted it, claiming to of sold thousands

And the biggest win for any of this, hire your husband with extensive marketing knowledge and proceed with all the tricks of the trade.

It was clever, I’ll give her that.

No idea about her creams being certified by the way. Not sure how you find that stuff out either?

 

[MakeMineADouble]

I do wonder if she gets much repeat custom?

I was a customer, tried her creams, they didn't work and won't be returning. And this was before she massively increased her prices!

 

[Oppyonion]

Do you know if she has her creams certified?
I agree with you, shocking that she didn't list ingredients and still survived!



Yes, I don't think that she could legitimately threaten anyone.

I just thought that the beauty market was so crowded, I really wonder how she managed to scoop so many sales.
There are so many established brands that are competing AND her stuff is not cheap!

ETA: I now read the article - it even includes a recipe. I think she did well.

Her website also states that the creams are fully "compliant" so I guess she has certificates etc.

But she needs a copywriter, her product descriptions are poorly written. And "suitable for adults and babies" - does that mean not suitable for children? Strange descriptions and the grammar isn't great.

But given that she more or less runs everything by herself she did well.

The newspaper article from 2016? I don’t know about there being a recipe on the article either.
I do know she didn’t have ingredients on her jars, no use by date either, and she certainly wasn’t making 20k a year back then, it was 3 grand.

 

[whathastheworldcometo]

I do wonder if she gets much repeat custom?

I was a customer, tried her creams, they didn't work and won't be returning. And this was before she massively increased her prices!

According to the reviews she does!

The newspaper article from 2016? I don’t know about there being a recipe on the article either.
I do know she didn’t have ingredients on her jars, no use by date either, and she certainly wasn’t making 20k a year back then, it was 3 grand.

That one, with the eye lash serum recipe:

https://www.12ft.io/https://www.dai...eauty-products-hobby-successful-business.html

 

[Oppyonion]

According to the reviews she does!



That one, with the eye lash serum recipe:

https://www.12ft.io/https://www.dai...eauty-products-hobby-successful-business.html

This article is a load of shite though?
She wasn’t earning anything like 20k a year in 2016, check companies house it’s all there.
No ingredients listed on her jars or use by dates either, she should of been shut down.

 

[whathastheworldcometo]

This article is a load of shite though?
She wasn’t earning anything like 20k a year in 2016, check companies house it’s all there.
No ingredients listed on her jars or use by dates either, she should of been shut down.

Yes, she should have been. She probably got lucky, but now she seems to be making serious dollar.

 

[Glitzynotditzy]

According to the reviews she does!



That one, with the eye lash serum recipe:

https://www.12ft.io/https://www.dai...eauty-products-hobby-successful-business.html

Is this you Zo Zo? Coming with some seriously in depth replies and explanations!!!!

 

[whathastheworldcometo]

Is this you Zo Zo? Coming with some seriously in depth replies and explanations!!!!

Haha, no.

I write in the dating thread - she is married with two sons!

I never bought from her and don't really have a relationship with her, I guess that's why I don't have a lot of hard feelings.

The thing is:
I would love to have my own business to make me tons of dosh. So I was interested in reading how much money she made.
I am also interested in making my own beauty products (I gave some advice a few pages ago) - but never thought they would sell so well.

So to sum it up: I think she built herself a little empire, which is clever, but I wonder why she sells so much and how.

But as I said: it seems her products are too expensive and easy to make at home. (Look at the eye lash serum: 2 ingredients!)
I don't follow her insta and never bought from her so don't know her really. But from what you all say on her she seems dodgy.

 

[Sunshine01Snow]

Haha, no.

I write in the dating thread - she is married with two sons!

I never bought from her and don't really have a relationship with her, I guess that's why I don't have a lot of hard feelings.

The thing is:
I would love to have my own business to make me tons of dosh. So I was interested in reading how much money she made.
I am also interested in making my own beauty products (I gave some advice a few pages ago) - but never thought they would sell so well.

So to sum it up: I think she built herself a little empire, which is clever, but I wonder why she sells so much and how.

But as I said: it seems her products are too expensive and easy to make at home. (Look at the eye lash serum: 2 ingredients!)
I don't follow her insta and never bought from her so don't know her really. But from what you all say on her she seems dodgy.

There is no denying she is an excellent sales woman.

What she lacks in unique ideas, authenticity, compliance with regulations and knowledge in cosmetic science… she makes up with in salesmanship.

It is quite astonishing. And just like you, I was really interested in working out what techniques she had adopted to get this far despite the flaws in the products/brand.
Onion makes some good points when she highlights some tactics Zoe Bee used/uses.

I just don’t know how she’s managed the cult following… those ladies are seriously dedicated to the brand…

 

[MakeMineADouble]

Had a little look at Trustpilot. I find it very interesting that many of the 5* reviews are from people who have only ever posted 1 review

 

[whathastheworldcometo]

There is no denying she is an excellent sales woman.

What she lacks in unique ideas, authenticity, compliance with regulations and knowledge in cosmetic science… she makes up with in salesmanship.

It is quite astonishing. And just like you, I was really interested in working out what techniques she had adopted to get this far despite the flaws in the products/brand.
Onion makes some good points when she highlights some tactics Zoe Bee used/uses.

I just don’t know how she’s managed the cult following… those ladies are seriously dedicated to the brand…

Yes, it is strange. There are soooo many sellers on Etsy, and their craft only ever remains a hobby for them and she essentially turned it into a small company with 2 "employees".

I guess most people would be too embarrassed to be in the Daily Fail etc and therefore don't get the publicity she does.

But the cult following... I don't get it. Maybe she uses some secret potions and spells to make people follow her.

Had a little look at Trustpilot. I find it very interesting that many of the 5* reviews are from people who have only ever posted 1 review

See, it would have never occurred to me to investigate something like this (wouldn't even know how ) and it seems a bit odd.
Do they get a discount for a good review?

 

[Oppyonion]

Had a little look at Trustpilot. I find it very interesting that many of the 5* reviews are from people who have only ever posted 1 review

If you are ever seriously bored but fancy some detective work have a look at some of the names on trust pilot, do a quick Facebook search, then check out some of the faces in her birthday photos...you will find, the majority of trustpilot reviews come from her friends!
I can’t even begin to imagine the tears whines and whinges she must give people for them to actively take the time to go and write a false 5 star review for her. It’s ok for her to cry and get her knickers in a twist about apparent negative fake reviews though isn’t it eh?

Yes, it is strange. There are soooo many sellers on Etsy, and their craft only ever remains a hobby for them and she essentially turned it into a small company with 2 "employees".

I guess most people would be too embarrassed to be in the Daily Fail etc and therefore don't get the publicity she does.

But the cult following... I don't get it. Maybe she uses some secret potions and spells to make people follow her.



See, it would have never occurred to me to investigate something like this (wouldn't even know how ) and it seems a bit odd.
Do they get a discount for a good review?

I think the cult following is mainly down to when she started ‘growing’ and buying followers, it helped her gain real followers as it started to look like there was hype around the brand. Add in to that a few Z listers shouting her out, with the cherry on top being the continuous posts of her being caring, in to manifesting and law of attraction , lots of emphasis on her being empathic, love for animals, love for the environment, and her main love of course (herself) people have just bought in to it all, you only need to look at someone like Jimmy Saville to see how it works (not calling her a n but he had everyone fooled until his death bed!)

If you are ever seriously bored but fancy some detective work have a look at some of the names on trust pilot, do a quick Facebook search, then check out some of the faces in her birthday photos...you will find, the majority of trustpilot reviews come from her friends!
I can’t even begin to imagine the tears whines and whinges she must give people for them to actively take the time to go and write a false 5 star review for her. It’s ok for her to cry and get her knickers in a twist about apparent negative fake reviews though isn’t it eh?


I think the cult following is mainly down to when she started ‘growing’ and buying followers, it helped her gain real followers as it started to look like there was hype around the brand. Add in to that a few Z listers shouting her out, with the cherry on top being the continuous posts of her being caring, in to manifesting and law of attraction , lots of emphasis on her being empathic, love for animals, love for the environment, and her main love of course (herself) people have just bought in to it all, you only need to look at someone like Jimmy Saville to see how it works (not calling her a ponce but he had everyone fooled until his death bed!)

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Laughing to myself that it won’t let me say a certain word - I didn’t know the rule on that one so sorry to the admins!

 

[Oppyonion]

Is this Botox or filler? It’s definitely something, it’s awful

 

[Glitzynotditzy]

Shea butter, obviously! Ha kidding. But if you look under her left eye you can see its been blurred and in the cheek. If you look even close you can see where shes missed spots so theres a random fine lines and pores either side! lol

 

[Oppyonion]

Shea butter, obviously! Ha kidding. But if you look under her left eye you can see its been blurred and in the cheek. If you look even close you can see where shes missed spots so theres a random fine lines and pores either side! lol

Hmm I think this is a dodgy filter of some kind because she looks a bit masculine here and I wouldn’t say in real life that she looks like a man.
Nice to see her showing her doing something with her kids today - other than have them promote for her.
I also appreciate the fact that she’s stopped doing a lot of the tit she was doing before (wow is me posts, stealing quotes claiming them as her own)
Perhaps she read here and had a bit of a wake up call that being a good business woman is enough, without the need for all the bravado and extra attention/admiration.

 

[Sunshine01Snow]

I think it’s probably just one of the shooting modes on an iPhone. My pics come out like this if I use Portrait mode - studio lighting. It brightens the face, gives the photo a crisp look and can dull down lines and pores. Looks good on me- but on my partner it makes him look like his mum (40 years ago)

 

[Oppyonion]

I think it’s probably just one of the shooting modes on an iPhone. My pics come out like this if I use Portrait mode - studio lighting. It brightens the face, gives the photo a crisp look and can dull down lines and pores. Looks good on me- but on my partner it makes him look like his mum (40 years ago)

Does it make you look like a man though?

 

[bellebear]

That post on the 29th about anxiety. In her words "I suppose I had a mild form of acrophobia"

Pretty sure she means agoraphobia given the context, but I eyerolled so hard my eyes are probably never coming back out of my sockets. I've had agoraphobia; being afraid of leaving the house in a global pandemic is really not the same. God she pisses me off.