Welshrunner, kelloggsontherun #14 Going all in is getting long in the (dead) tooth
- Thread starter EC1A
- Start date
- Status
1
zetta buttons
VIP Member
Just putting this here at the start of the new thread. We need to be reminded what she charges fools when she can’t look after herself properly or get to the end of a marathon without bonking/going blind/bleeping it up entirely.
If they want to burn money, the joke’s on them but it sure as hell isn’t going on anything worthwhile.
If they want to burn money, the joke’s on them but it sure as hell isn’t going on anything worthwhile.
It always astounds me the audacity of someone like Kelly charging for coaching. I do not believe you need to be an incredibly talented runner to be a good coach.
But you need to have had some decent training blocks under your belt, you need extra courses, a thirst to learn more about nutrition, injury, and hormones. I really wish this type of thing was regulated more. I’m sure she says 2 x strength training on all her programmes etc yet does none herself.
There are some beautifully experienced runners at clubs that will give you advice and knowledge free of charge and gladly.
But you need to have had some decent training blocks under your belt, you need extra courses, a thirst to learn more about nutrition, injury, and hormones. I really wish this type of thing was regulated more. I’m sure she says 2 x strength training on all her programmes etc yet does none herself.
There are some beautifully experienced runners at clubs that will give you advice and knowledge free of charge and gladly.
Lemming312
VIP Member
I had to laugh at her choice of picture, running in Iten where she was injured/too slow to keep up with everyone else.
Vixen88
VIP Member
Lol, hardly ran because she was too slow and rode the bike everywhere. Wouldn’t eat any of the food and existed only on Nutella. It seemed like a miserable trip for her.
Fifah1907
VIP Member
There is a part of me that actually wishes I had money to burn just to see how bad her coaching is
you don't even need to run to be a running coach!
Wannabrunner39
Chatty Member
Fake-It-Til-You-Bonk-It
Well-known member
eyethinkyousuck
VIP Member
Just imagine being such a boring ball bag doing all this for an extra couple of seconds.
hollyhocks
Chatty Member
And still bonking time after time.
zetta buttons
VIP Member
Like duck he knows what a mitochondria is.
What an arrogant twit. I hope he bonks and gets 2:34 or whatever.
What an arrogant twit. I hope he bonks and gets 2:34 or whatever.
So unless I’m missing something, he is basically saying he is following a 3 zone structure but still not doing any easy runs? If LT1 is just above baseline and LT3 is fast twitch (so probably more an upper Z4 to Z5 in the 5 zone model), then LT2 is more of a tempo/threshold zone?
It doesn’t matter what he calls it, for endurance running he should be doing around 80% of his runs at an easy pace. It’s no wonder so many of his Strava titles include ‘tired’ or ‘heavy legs’. He shouldn’t be so burned out this early in the training cycle.
What a sad little life. Spending all that time measuring numbers he doesn’t understand, I bet he is obsessed with it. I wonder if there is any joy left in running for him?
It doesn’t matter what he calls it, for endurance running he should be doing around 80% of his runs at an easy pace. It’s no wonder so many of his Strava titles include ‘tired’ or ‘heavy legs’. He shouldn’t be so burned out this early in the training cycle.
What a sad little life. Spending all that time measuring numbers he doesn’t understand, I bet he is obsessed with it. I wonder if there is any joy left in running for him?
zetta buttons
VIP Member
It’s all bollocks isn’t it? Kelly runs all her runs at the same pace. He runs all his too fast (albeit at slightly different paces). In both cases neither of them have a bleeping clue. They both need to rest, do proper strength work and concentrate on nutrition.
This is coming from someone pondering whether it should have been “mitochondrion” and still can’t walk or breathe properly after taking an almighty fall on Wednesday
.
This is coming from someone pondering whether it should have been “mitochondrion” and still can’t walk or breathe properly after taking an almighty fall on Wednesday
.
Wannabrunner39
Chatty Member
I read the opening two lines of this and then stopped. Previous experience of reading his long passsges of prose means that I know I will get to the end and still be none the wiser so I saved myself some time
Eta my post doesn’t show that I mean tits writing not yours @Fake-It-Til-You-Bonk-It
Runningdietitian
Well-known member
I saw this and became even more confused along with being convinced he has zero idea what he is doing. The question he is responding to is basically asking if he is using the 3 zone model and hence his "zone 2" HR is much higher than expected and he starts by saying that he is using the zone 5 model like the majority of us do....?
Deadtooth stop trying to sound intelligent and just run like a normal person does!
Why go into al this crap when he hasn’t got the absolute basics right? All the bits around running - good sleep, good (and enough!) nutrition, 2 strength sessions per week as a non negotiable and also 1/2 rest days a week. Hell, even training with a proper club night once a week could help more than this number fiddling.
They Are such basic things but none of them serve his addiction to exercise.
They Are such basic things but none of them serve his addiction to exercise.
eyethinkyousuck
VIP Member
I don’t think he’s done any strength work since he started this block. He’d benefit from doing the absolute basics but I don’t think he could cope with the additional fatigue in his muscles.
Fake-It-Til-You-Bonk-It
Well-known member
Eta my post doesn’t show that I mean tits writing not yours @Fake-It-Til-You-Bonk-It
How very dare you!
*Stomps off to count something thresholdy*
- Status