Unpopular opinions #18

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In adult life there is no “boys time” and “girls time” though. No jobs are “men only” or “women only”.

There is so much misogyny and sexism in society, girls and boys should be encouraged to mix at an early age and be treated equally.

I also believe this should be the case for “all boys” and “all girls” schools. They need scrapping. Just so archaic and backwards.
Yes, they do mix but it shouldn't be 24/7, over everything, in my opinion
 
I went to an all-girls school and I hated it. However, after reading the Ofsted report about how girls are subjected to sexual abuse and harrassment on a daily basis whilst at school, I'm strongly encouraging my step-daughter to send her daughters to single-sex schools.

On the other hand, as a woman who went to a mixed grammar school, it certainly gives you training in resilience and brilliant putdowns for sleazy creepy men in years to come. Most older sleazy creeps are teenage boys who have never grown up and referring to them as needle dick still works.
 
I went to an all-girls school and I hated it. However, after reading the Ofsted report about how girls are subjected to sexual abuse and harrassment on a daily basis whilst at school, I'm strongly encouraging my step-daughter to send her daughters to single-sex schools.


Ive suffered sexual harassment in school, in the public and in the work place. It shouldn’t happen. But it sadly does. Boys and men need educating on the subject. Society needs an overhaul at how women and girls are treated and portrayed. Putting a girl into an all girls school won’t fix the issues.

I don’t know about you but if I was going on a ‘girls night out’ I’d be pretty pissed off if one of them brought their fellas along! Same thing

Not the same thing. Unless you go to an all girls bar or an all girls nightclub.
 
Ive suffered sexual harassment in school, in the public and in the work place. It shouldn’t happen. But it sadly does. Boys and men need educating on the subject. Society needs an overhaul at how women and girls are treated and portrayed. Putting a girl into an all girls school won’t fix the issues.



Not the same thing. Unless you go to an all girls bar or an all girls nightclub.
It is to me
 
That’s fair enough!

If I have a girls get together at someone’s house none of us are going to bring any males along.

But if we have a girls night out, in public, we’re all aware that there will be males around. I’d personally feel safer if some of my male friends were with us on a night out.
Yeah I was also thinking girls night in, and it’s the same thing. You want a get together with your mates but then there’s men coming along
 
Yes I get what you’re saying. Of course if you’re in public you have to expect men to be around. Change my comparison to girls night in. Either way you wouldn’t want their other halves hanging around

Yes I completely agree that for a girls night in it’d be weird for other halves to turn up. I certainly wouldn’t invite a male to a girls night in.

But my original point was referring to children shouldn’t be put into “girls only” or “boys only” clubs as there is no such thing as that in adult life (in terms of work, university) and they should be encouraged to mix at an early age. That doesn’t mean that they can’t attend a female or male only social setting.
 
Yes I completely agree that for a girls night in it’d be weird for other halves to turn up. I certainly wouldn’t invite a male to a girls night in.

But my original point was referring to children shouldn’t be put into “girls only” or “boys only” clubs as there is no such thing as that in adult life (in terms of work, university) and they should be encouraged to mix at an early age. That doesn’t mean that they can’t attend a female or male only social setting.
Not to mention it just reinforces the "X is for girls, Y is for boys" crap we get for everything from clothes to toys to colours. Let kids be kids.
 
Yes I completely agree that for a girls night in it’d be weird for other halves to turn up. I certainly wouldn’t invite a male to a girls night in.

But my original point was referring to children shouldn’t be put into “girls only” or “boys only” clubs as there is no such thing as that in adult life (in terms of work, university) and they should be encouraged to mix at an early age. That doesn’t mean that they can’t attend a female or male only social setting.
Yeah, I understand it’s good for them to mix and I’m all for that but don’t they mix everywhere else? Parks, schools, everywhere. There isn’t actually one thing they can have where it’s just girls or boys. It used to be scouts and guides. That’s no more. This is my main point. There’s no setting for this anymore. Anyway it’s just my opinion. It’s not gonna change anything! 😂

I don't really get single sex schools. Surely it's weird if the first time you have to spend any time around the opposite sex is when you're 16 or even 18 if you go to a school with a sixth form.
Yes I would never consider a same sex school even though I would prefer scouts and guides to have remained separate. That’s a step too far for me 😂
 
I don't really get single sex schools. Surely it's weird if the first time you have to spend any time around the opposite sex is when you're 16 or even 18 if you go to a school with a sixth form.
Not really. You spend your first 11 years of life in mixed classes, and every other minute outside 9-3pm mixing. You presumably have brothers, cousins and other male relatives? You go to mixed hobbies and sports clubs? Public transport and school buses to school are mixed, walking to school? It's hardly like being in a nunnery for 5 years. It just allows girls to focus on their studies, interests and let them be themselves for a few hours a day . I have found personally and professionally that single sex girls (more specifically) are much more confident as teenagers and into adulthood. Just my observations though.
 
I think it's shocking that so many people view suicide attempts, or talking about wanting to commit suicide, as "manipulative" or "emotional blackmail" and don't even consider the person might actually be desperate. Obviously, some people really do repeatedly threaten suicide in order to get attention/get others to do what they want - the Marcus Mitchell thread is an example of that. But generally, it is something that should be taken seriously and not written off as manipulation
Absolutely. When someone is attempting to take their life, they’re at their lowest, they don’t see any other option. To make any kind of judgement about how selfish or manipulative they’re being is really unfair.
 
I don't really get single sex schools. Surely it's weird if the first time you have to spend any time around the opposite sex is when you're 16 or even 18 if you go to a school with a sixth form.
I agree. I spent 7 years at an all girls school and I really didn’t like it. I had gone to a mixed primary school and knew boys outside of school, but it’s definitely not the same as attending a mixed school.
The school had an amazing behaviour record (because all the drugs scandals were swept under the carpet and I guess girls get into less physical fights) and produced great grades (because they cared more about us passing exams than becoming respectful members of society). So many girls would brag about how little they ate, how much they exercised and everyone was constantly comparing body sizes. There was also constant bitching, gossiping and rumour spreading. People would smile to your face and call you fat or ugly behind your back.
Whenever the school did a production boys from local schools would audition for the male parts and the whole school would obsess over like 5 boys they didn’t even know. I know most schools have students who crush on teachers but I remember people were obsessed with certain male teachers, so much that they often moved to different schools. One teacher left to take maternity cover with no stable job lined up because one girl was so obsessed with him. I honestly wonder sometimes how some of these people have got on since leaving and going to university. Some had been at that school since nursery, so spent their whole lives surrounded by mostly girls/women.
I also think same sex schools make it harder for transgender children. I remember a couple of people who were transitioning whilst at school and didn’t want to leave because of the connections they’d made there, but were forced to use the girl’s toilets and attend a school where everyone is supposed to be a girl. I think they did try and take the ‘for girls’ part out of the name but none actually followed through with that.
 
Absolutely. When someone is attempting to take their life, they’re at their lowest, they don’t see any other option. To make any kind of judgement about how selfish or manipulative they’re being is really unfair.
First thing my father thought to say to me after an attempt, after I got out of hospital & found it in me to tell him (we're not close, not like I am with my mum) his first words were chanting how selfish I was because I'm a mother. As if suicide & MH issues discriminate. I already felt terrible.
 
I don't really get single sex schools. Surely it's weird if the first time you have to spend any time around the opposite sex is when you're 16 or even 18 if you go to a school with a sixth form.
I agree and I also disagree with the idea that it prevents girls from experiencing sexual harassment. I went to a mixed-sex school and was horrifically bullied - mainly by girls - and was sexually harassed solely by girls.
 
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