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You’re thinking too much. Besides, you have to rest up for your video summary tomorrow that we’re all depending on. You’re a local hero.

Yeah I think that was the moment everything changed as well, after the scans and biopsy there was a dramatic shift where Tiffany went from focusing on surgery to being angry at suggestions that she should have it. Something major happened behind the scenes that we didn’t hear about. The plan for surgery got scrapped by either Tiffany or the surgeon, who’s certainly not ghosting her. There must’ve been a decision from either side to wait, with specific reasoning, and that’s the elephant in the room she’s not disclosing, amping up skepticism and confusion. Adding to that, she keeps referring to the surgeon not being available but even if he’s gone being sick, there would be equally competent doctors in his stead to continue consultation and perhaps even surgery if it had to happen right away. Even if it’s out of fear, I think Tiffany’s talking about the absence of her surgeon to justify waiting or putting it off. Understandable to a degree, but this is something she could actually fill us in on or her subscribers that would make a lot of people back off. The thing is, she has two reasons to keep it to herself… the first is that she‘d rather not face real talk of surgery, and the second is it that increases views to drip information. I don’t think she’s particularly selfless, so she puts her needs before any subscriber expectations.
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Indeed, DivineMystic's summaries are legendary.
Maybe he told her that it might not necessarily 'cure' her. Yes, she was definitely told more things than what she told us.
Yes, that's so bothersome how she is making it sound that doctors are not competent, that they don't know her case, that they are not available to her. This is a 'fraud' of the century - that the Royal Marsden doctors are negligent. Not sure if she is painting this erroneous picture on purpose but she could easily squash the rumours by simply making an official statement (like a celebrity).
Yes the doctor's absence is very convenient to her cause she is putting it off herself.
Yes, does she not understand that people would leave her alone if she just clarified a few things? It makes me think that she is actually stubborn and even 'vindictive' - she will now inform people even less cause they pissed her off. She gets enough comments about cooking and slippers for her to not bother about catering for the 10 - 15% of the people who are being confused and are asking for medical details.
Yes, she does not want to talk about such details and the surgery and as she really does not care about her subscribers and what they want, she will just not talk about it. She was kind of 'pleading' with people to not demand details from her and she was saying that she is not a doctor so she should not be expected to provide medical information. It was never about helping people for her. It's her hobby to do youtube.
I think she knows that releasing as little information as possible increases the need in people to know more. She must know by now. If she is actually omitting information for that reason, then that's so bad. For me anyway.

An unrelated thought, after the phone call with the surgeon's nurse, Tiffany implied that the nurse told her that the surgery could be life ending? Well that's what Tiffany kind of implied, that she is not comfortable with the surgery cause she might not survive. But now not sure if she meant life-ending or life-changing (the notion of bladder nerve not working properly after the surgery among others).

" The whole cancer YouTuber thing is too much for her. There is some responsibility that comes with putting an illness on the Internet and getting thousands of people to care and then leaving them in the dark. She doesn’t have to share anything but there are some basics that are fair to expect and she’s not able to do that. " - Exactly. Yes it's her channel and she can do whatever she wants with it but we as viewers will have opinions on what she does with a cancer channel and we will criticise if we want to. She cannot expect us to blindly love everything she does. I think it's time for her to take a break from youtube. I understand that it fills her with pride and happiness in these very trying times but it cannot be healthy for her. It cannot be healthy dealing with this sudden 'fame' and having a deadly disease at the same time.

Even if it’s out of fear, I think Tiffany’s talking about the absence of her surgeon to justify waiting or putting it off. Understandable to a degree, but this is something she could actually fill us in on or her subscribers that would make a lot of people back off. = why can't she be honest about this? She thinks she is transparent and very open and shares everything but she is actually quite secretive. Like it's obvious. She says 'you know guys that I tell you everything', but she doesn't 😅

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After reviewing several past videos...my conclusion is that Tiffany was T4b stage 3 all along and had every intention of getting surgery not realizing the full extent of the procedure doctors were talking about. She believed it would only involve removal of the 1 tumor mass only. She only learned how invasive and utterly life changing the pelvic surgery could be much later on in her discussions with the surgeon (in video "No Surgery"), mostly because she refused to conduct any medical research for herself.

In her recent video with the new oncologist who said she was stage 4, she adds that she talked to her regular oncologist who has since reassured her which "suggests" she is still stage 3. I believe the delayed effect of her chemo and radiation may have rendered her cancer cells inactive at the moment, which is why the doctors are suggesting possible deferral. But there is a high likelihood that cancer may spread or be reactivated at any time, hence the dilemma.

It's quite frustrating how Tiffany reveals information in bits and pieces, often leaving out the most important points of linkage, never stating anything as a plain fact - which is the source of great confusion. If it were me I would have said clearly "my regular oncologist assured me that it I am indeed still stage 3, so the new doctor must have mistaken" instead of "I've spoken with my oncologist so don't worry."

She has a very unclear manner of speech, possibly due to a lack of core speaking skills/intellect and maybe some NCND (neither confirm nor deny) tactics to maintain a degree of speculation and suspense though I am inclined to believe in the former.
 
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Hellodear said:
After reviewing several past videos...my conclusion is that Tiffany was T4b stage 3 all along and had every intention of getting surgery not realizing the full extent of the procedure doctors were talking about. She believed it would only involve removal of the 1 tumor mass only. She only learned how invasive and utterly life changing the pelvic surgery could be much later on in her discussions with the surgeon (in video "No Surgery"), mostly because she refused to conduct any medical research for herself.

In her recent video with the new oncologist who said she was stage 4, she adds that she talked to her regular oncologist who has since reassured her which "suggests" she is still stage 3. I believe the delayed effect of her chemo and radiation may have rendered her cancer cells inactive at the moment, which is why the doctors are suggesting possible deferral. But there is a high likelihood that cancer may spread or be reactivated at any time, hence the dilemma.

It's quite frustrating how Tiffany reveals information in bits and pieces, often leaving out the most important points of linkage, never stating anything as a plain fact - which is the source of great confusion. If it were me I would have said clearly "my regular oncologist assured me that it I am indeed still stage 3, so the new doctor must have mistaken" instead of "I've spoken with my oncologist so don't worry."

She has a very unclear manner of speech, possibly due to a lack of core speaking skills/intellect and maybe some NCND (neither confirm nor deny) tactics to maintain a degree of speculation and suspense though I am inclined to believe in the former.
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Some clear precise speaking would really put this whole mess to bed. 'Hi, my loving Tiffanythinks family. Just seen the consultant. He said this. It means this. The next step is this.' Instead of which we go all round the houses.
 
Hellodear said:
After reviewing several past videos...my conclusion is that Tiffany was T4b stage 3 all along and had every intention of getting surgery not realizing the full extent of the procedure doctors were talking about. She believed it would only involve removal of the 1 tumor mass only. She only learned how invasive and utterly life changing the pelvic surgery could be much later on in her discussions with the surgeon (in video "No Surgery"), mostly because she refused to conduct any medical research for herself.

In her recent video with the new oncologist who said she was stage 4, she adds that she talked to her regular oncologist who has since reassured her which "suggests" she is still stage 3. I believe the delayed effect of her chemo and radiation may have rendered her cancer cells inactive at the moment, which is why the doctors are suggesting possible deferral. But there is a high likelihood that cancer may spread or be reactivated at any time, hence the dilemma.

It's quite frustrating how Tiffany reveals information in bits and pieces, often leaving out the most important points of linkage, never stating anything as a plain fact - which is the source of great confusion. If it were me I would have said clearly "my regular oncologist assured me that it I am indeed still stage 3, so the new doctor must have mistaken" instead of "I've spoken with my oncologist so don't worry."

She has a very unclear manner of speech, possibly due to a lack of core speaking skills/intellect and maybe some NCND (neither confirm nor deny) tactics to maintain a degree of speculation and suspense though I am inclined to believe in the former.
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ITA with you.
 
Hellodear said:
After reviewing several past videos...my conclusion is that Tiffany was T4b stage 3 all along and had every intention of getting surgery not realizing the full extent of the procedure doctors were talking about. She believed it would only involve removal of the 1 tumor mass only. She only learned how invasive and utterly life changing the pelvic surgery could be much later on in her discussions with the surgeon (in video "No Surgery"), mostly because she refused to conduct any medical research for herself.

In her recent video with the new oncologist who said she was stage 4, she adds that she talked to her regular oncologist who has since reassured her which "suggests" she is still stage 3. I believe the delayed effect of her chemo and radiation may have rendered her cancer cells inactive at the moment, which is why the doctors are suggesting possible deferral. But there is a high likelihood that cancer may spread or be reactivated at any time, hence the dilemma.

It's quite frustrating how Tiffany reveals information in bits and pieces, often leaving out the most important points of linkage, never stating anything as a plain fact - which is the source of great confusion. If it were me I would have said clearly "my regular oncologist assured me that it I am indeed still stage 3, so the new doctor must have mistaken" instead of "I've spoken with my oncologist so don't worry."

She has a very unclear manner of speech, possibly due to a lack of core speaking skills/intellect and maybe some NCND (neither confirm nor deny) tactics to maintain a degree of speculation and suspense though I am inclined to believe in the former.
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I’ve been cutting Tiffany slack because she’s borderline insane and her future is grim. That said, the single most ridiculous thing I’ve ever seen in her videos is saying “don’t worry“ after supposedly talking to the other doctor to clarify her stage. Who the hell says that after telling people “don’t panic“ from hearing stage four? She specifically made a clip to clarify why we shouldn’t panic but didn’t correct the stage? Either her original oncologist was vague on the phone or Tiffany is blatantly messing with her subscribers emotions.

It’s the difference between life and death and all she has to say is “don’t worry“? Neither stupidity nor denial can explain this one.

If a judge asked her “How do you plead?”, it would be like that scene from My Cousin Vinny where Vinny’s asked this question and the judge has to repeatedly explain it’s either “guilty” or “not guilty”, and Vinny just replies “I think I get the point”.

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I was just looking at Tiffany’s letters again. I’m pretty sure she is Stage IIIC based on the information.
www.cancer.net

Colorectal Cancer - Stages

ON THIS PAGE: You will learn about how doctors describe a cancer’s growth or spread. This is called the stage. Use the menu to see other pages.READ MORE BELOW:What is cancer staging?TNM staging systemStage groups for colorectal cancer
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Also the letters said it was CRM + and EMVI +.
I looked those terms up, and by no means am I a scientist, but I understood enough to know it is not good.
CRM positive means that the cancer is more likely to recur.
EMVI positive “is defined as the presence of tumor cells beyond the muscularis propria.”
“It is associated with poor prognosis and increases the risk of disease recurrence”.

Extramural venous invasion is a potential imaging predictive biomarker of neoadjuvant treatment in rectal cancer - PMC

Extramural venous invasion (EMVI) is a poor prognostic factor in rectal cancer and identified on magnetic resonance imaging (MRI) (mrEMVI). The clinical relevance of improvement in mrEMVI following neoadjuvant therapy is unknown. This study aimed to ...
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I also noticed that Tiffany’s first letter had N1b, and the second letter had N1c. I don’t know if that means it got any worse.
From everything I was reading, I get the idea that when it is still Stage III they still operate.
Anyway, I’m really worried now and wondering if Matt and Amma know something we don’t? Because those letters don’t look like good news to me 😪
 
We can keep guessing about her stage but if it’s not stage IV and she refuses surgery, it’s inevitable. Aside from the T4B tumor, her surgeon made comments about the bit in her lung possibly being a problem after surgery, so the interpretation of that could change it to stage IV. It said no metastases on the recent paper, but we don’t know when that was from, and if the lung turns out to be malignant or has a chance of being malignant, that could determine where they stage her. As far as I know, she’s never had it biopsied. All they can do is keep an eye on it.
 
Seems to me she wants people as worried for her as possible to give her the “feed” she relishes - but remains in deep denial which she manages with all the passive aggressive “confusion” etc. She has to throw snippets of “please don’t worry” in to remain congruent with her facade of niceness/caring for her subs. I can’t watch her anymore I don’t think but I wish her nothing but the best.
 
There will never be any clarity from Tiffany.
All of our speculation and questions and debate is pointless - she’s DELIBERATELY being vague and withholding information because it generates interest and revenue on you tube. She’s never going to come clean and tell the whole truth because that’s her cash cow gone.
 
BettyCrockerr said:
There will never be any clarity from Tiffany.
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I suppose that’s the only thing that’s crystal clear: there will never be any clarity from Tiffany.

Lululime said:
Seems to me she wants people as worried for her as possible to give her the “feed” she relishes - but remains in deep denial which she manages with all the passive aggressive “confusion” etc. She has to throw snippets of “please don’t worry” in to remain congruent with her facade of niceness/caring for her subs.
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The would explain the “don’t worry” rather than “don’t worry, it’s not stage IV” like a sane person would say.
 
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DivineMystic said:
Love this! You have articulated the thoughts and emotions of many here.

Yes, she started out with wanting the end goal surgery. Then, when faced with it, she wavered from that intention. Aside from her appreciative relief from waking up after the biopsy, and kissing her surgeon's hand, she was also crying when they administered the anaesthetic prior to that. And I think she said the nurse was holding her hand and trying to comfort her as she dozed off. It was so traumatic for her even then. Hard to imagine her opting for a 12 hour surgery after that.



Agree. At the end of the day, it does not matter what we/others think or do not think. It's what she thinks that will drive her to pursue a course of action for the life she wants, be it the altered T post surgery or otherwise. Likely her extended family have already provided similar input as what most of us here have articulated, some somewhat not so pleasant to her, and she's still going to do her own thing anyway.



From her videos before the cancer diagnosis, she's always had a day that starts with her having skipped breakfast, and sometimes lunch or sometimes not eating anything till dinner time, and when she finally ate, she would also always be saying that she was so hungry, but would be eating toast and eggs or sausages, or mostly macdonalds. I think she's always been like that.
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Thank you, it’s because I’ve been through cancer a lot with my immediate family and I know how horrible it is, so why I can’t understand why she wants to wait it out and hope for the best.

im not sure how many of you watch TikTok and especially more in the earlier days But I used to watch Hatti gaynor. She had breast cancer and was under the royal marsden, and her fight with it was amazing. She was so positive and informative in her short clips, and wouldn’t leave out vital information. I think before she was due to have surgery she had a scan and they discovered her breast cancer was secondary and she sadly passed away a few weeks later. But I compare her and Tiffany who are under the same hospital and the difference of informing your audience about this disease. Some people are made to show and inform others giving everything a full justice whilst others ain’t, and Tiffany is one of those people.

I’m all for making awareness of diseases and illnesses, myself have been diagnosed with fibromyalgia and I have set up and Instagram page to connect with others to understand it all better but I would never vlog or explain things as it isn’t my forte.
 
If you notice in her latest videos she's been actively avoiding even uttering the word surgery. For example, she was saving the pajamas she got from Matt's cousin (I think) for the after surgery recovery stay at the hospital and now she's wearing it and said something like "I was saving it for... for something special..but y'know what everyday is special." Or when she says "I'm hoping I don't have to have...I'm just hoping I'll be okay for Christmas" or she would say "I don't want to talk about it. It's fine. It's fine."
 
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Hellodear said:
After reviewing several past videos...my conclusion is that Tiffany was T4b stage 3 all along and had every intention of getting surgery not realizing the full extent of the procedure doctors were talking about. She believed it would only involve removal of the 1 tumor mass only. She only learned how invasive and utterly life changing the pelvic surgery could be much later on in her discussions with the surgeon (in video "No Surgery"), mostly because she refused to conduct any medical research for herself.

In her recent video with the new oncologist who said she was stage 4, she adds that she talked to her regular oncologist who has since reassured her which "suggests" she is still stage 3. I believe the delayed effect of her chemo and radiation may have rendered her cancer cells inactive at the moment, which is why the doctors are suggesting possible deferral. But there is a high likelihood that cancer may spread or be reactivated at any time, hence the dilemma.

It's quite frustrating how Tiffany reveals information in bits and pieces, often leaving out the most important points of linkage, never stating anything as a plain fact - which is the source of great confusion. If it were me I would have said clearly "my regular oncologist assured me that it I am indeed still stage 3, so the new doctor must have mistaken" instead of "I've spoken with my oncologist so don't worry."

She has a very unclear manner of speech, possibly due to a lack of core speaking skills/intellect and maybe some NCND (neither confirm nor deny) tactics to maintain a degree of speculation and suspense though I am inclined to believe in the former.
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No she knew months and months ago what the surgery would entail. The surgeon explained it to her and drew a picture and she came out all shocked and said 'It will change my whole life' and was telling Matt that maybe the treatment worked and maybe she will not need the surgery. And the type of the surgery never changed ever since. She always knew and would tell us it will be a major surgery or an 'invasive surgery' and a couple of months ago she said 'I wish they could just take a piece of the rectum out, not all of it, and a piece of the uterus wall'. In other words, she always knew.
 
She's just said she's going to wait!!! Why would she take such a risk when the doctor said it could become inoperable in 6 weeks time? That's a huge risk!! She's avoiding surgery at any cost even though the deferrel of surgery option mean surgery later if evrything comes back okay. I don't get it
 
pinkrolos said:
She's just said she's going to wait!!! Why would she take such a risk when the doctor said it could become inoperable in 6 weeks time? That's a huge risk!! She's avoiding surgery at any cost even though the deferrel of surgery option mean surgery later if evrything comes back okay. I don't get it
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Are you surprised? It's been what? three or four weeks since her meeting with the surgeon. She probably told him the day in the meeting she was going to do the deferral since he recommended it and she worships the man. This is the stringing out nonsense that irks people.
It's her body and life she can do as she wishes.. She just needs to be upfront and direct, or stop talking about her cancer all together and keep it private like most people do and not monetize it.
 
BCrowl said:
I was just looking at Tiffany’s letters again. I’m pretty sure she is Stage IIIC based on the information.
www.cancer.net

Colorectal Cancer - Stages

ON THIS PAGE: You will learn about how doctors describe a cancer’s growth or spread. This is called the stage. Use the menu to see other pages.READ MORE BELOW:What is cancer staging?TNM staging systemStage groups for colorectal cancer
www.cancer.net www.cancer.net
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Also the letters said it was CRM + and EMVI +.
I looked those terms up, and by no means am I a scientist, but I understood enough to know it is not good.
CRM positive means that the cancer is more likely to recur.
EMVI positive “is defined as the presence of tumor cells beyond the muscularis propria.”
“It is associated with poor prognosis and increases the risk of disease recurrence”.

Extramural venous invasion is a potential imaging predictive biomarker of neoadjuvant treatment in rectal cancer - PMC

Extramural venous invasion (EMVI) is a poor prognostic factor in rectal cancer and identified on magnetic resonance imaging (MRI) (mrEMVI). The clinical relevance of improvement in mrEMVI following neoadjuvant therapy is unknown. This study aimed to ...
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
I also noticed that Tiffany’s first letter had N1b, and the second letter had N1c. I don’t know if that means it got any worse.
From everything I was reading, I get the idea that when it is still Stage III they still operate.
Anyway, I’m really worried now and wondering if Matt and Amma know something we don’t? Because those letters don’t look like good news to me 😪
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Very informative!
 
After watching today's decision video, I have to say it- she's an idiot. And I agree with others, this was her decision weeks ago. She just deliberately withheld it from her subs so as to increase the suspense and viewership. Her manipulations of her subs is a real turnoff and she couches it all in a "butter would melt in her mouth" fake sweet persona. I'm done with her.
I honestly feel she's signed her death sentence and so be it. Her decision, her life. But I refuse to fall for any more of her manipulations.
 
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