Tiffany thinks #17

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Elpis said:
LeonorG, I'm sure you and your doctor know all this - but as a teenager, I had repeated episodes of hives. I took Benadryl (diphenhydramine) with me wherever I went, and at its worst, I'd take steroid tablets or even go get cortisone shots. And those things worked - but in a few weeks, it would be, here we go again. Good luck on getting past it!

And I really need to think about your post, suzeq. I don't know why but TiffanyThinks has really been upsetting and triggering for me - yet, I have stayed invested in finding out what happens. Well, a lot has been revealed, and I do feel a release of tension. At times, I wondered if she had fabricated that doctor's report and didn't even have the big tumor and the diagnosis. She's just so fake and manipulative, it seemed possible to me that she engineered everything for attention.

Sorry to ramble -- I think when watching someone who is so insincere and performative, you feel duped or like you're being used ?? And that can trigger a lot of anger and a revisit of all the times you've been deceived and used, throughout your life. So it's sort of like a morality play and I want her to get her comeuppance - for Matt to escape - for Amma to harden up and not be controlled so much... oh I don't know. I just need to get a grip lol. I wish her well but I really don't want to hear any more trivial lifestyle crap, from her or anybody else.

Thank you all for letting me find resolution without having to watch hours of simpering.
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"They" say the opposite of love is not hate, but indifference. I think I've reached a point where, beyond the thoroughly enjoyable past time of taking the piss out of her here at TL, I'm simply too apathetic to mount a hostile or angry response nor do I still have a dogged desire to clear up her dodgy narrative. I simply don't care anymore what's true or not or how far down the rabbit hole she's taken us. Lol, I think the holidays might have softened me...that, or because I've now watched many inspiring and authentic cancer YTers that have been mentioned here.
 
suzeq said:
"They" say the opposite of love is not hate, but indifference. I think I've reached a point where, beyond the thoroughly enjoyable past time of taking the piss out of her here at TL, I'm simply too apathetic to mount a hostile or angry response nor do I still have a dogged desire to clear up her dodgy narrative. I simply don't care anymore what's true or not or how far down the rabbit hole she's taken us. Lol, I think the holidays might have softened me...that, or because I've now watched many inspiring and authentic cancer YTers that have been mentioned here.
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I feel the same. She's not worth the effort any more. I feel indifferent too.
 
I was very sad to watch the latest Kronks video last night. The decision not to go ahead with the surgery sounds ominous to me. I pray they come up with another angle of attack for her.

I was also so struck by her concern to not leave their followers hanging though- it's the complete opposite attitude and behaviour to Tiffany.
 
SueB said:
I was very sad to watch the latest Kronks video last night. The decision not to go ahead with the surgery sounds ominous to me. I pray they come up with another angle of attack for her.

I was also so struck by her concern to not leave their followers hanging though- it's the complete opposite attitude and behaviour to Tiffany.
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Yes I saw that video last night and I sure did not like what I heard. It made me think how very lucky Tiffany was to find this surgeon that would do that operation...no matter what the outcome she at least had/has a chance at life without cancer. Not so sure about Jessica.
 
Oh wow, I agree with you guys, I feel free not seeing any videos from T. I've also reached the point where I really don't feel much anymore. You all said it much better than I could. I hope she just goes offline, heals herself and happily lives her life and maybe her family can get their lives back without a camera in their face, too. For her channel to cause such a divide among people, cult like behavior and strong feelings of confusion and frustration makes me feel it just shouldn't be out there in the world. Certainly not something for other cancer sufferers to watch or "learn" from.

SueB said:
I was very sad to watch the latest Kronks video last night. The decision not to go ahead with the surgery sounds ominous to me. I pray they come up with another angle of attack for her.
I was also so struck by her concern to not leave their followers hanging though- it's the complete opposite attitude and behaviour to Tiffany.
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I saw this, too. I so hope they find another plan for her 😔
 
SueB said:
In my case, yes. I actually developed an allergy to all the flanges available back then. The only way I cooked was using a cream I had to buy from USA and get shipped over - it was really expensive but worth it. It's available on the NHS now, thankfully. It went into the skin and formed a sort of rubber layer that the flange sat on top of.
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The horrible thing is, the skin being sore stops the flange sticking properly- which can allowed corrosive enzymes in the output to damage the skin further. My skin wouid often be weeping and bleeding. The great thing about that cream was that it would adhere even to skin that was damaged and oozing. Sorry, TMI!
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Thanks for answering Sue.
It sound really awful and painful. With time and care does the soreness stop? Or is it a case of managing it the best way possible?

Cariad said:
She'd developed pneumonia following her chemo - she had osteosarcoma, which is known to be very aggressive and difficult to treat and often doesn't respond well to chemo ( needs v toxic chemo- and sounds like she'd become neutropenic and developed pneumonia as a result of being immunocompromised)
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Thanks for posting Cariad.

Idrisrex said:
She will be celebrating Christmas in august to catch up for wat she have missed these days. 😂
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Haha this made me chuckle!
Tiffanys attempt at covering up stuff is very lame. As if her eagle eyed viewers aren't going to notice dates on food etc.
To be honest, I am not even sure why she bothered to do vlogmas while she was awaiting surgery. Yes, I can imagine filming and editing will act as a great distraction while waiting, but it all seems a bit pointless (to me anyway.)

AlwaysScience said:
Things are really blowing up in the comments on the Stand Up to Cancer YouTube video.
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I had a quick nosey. I guess a couple of the commenters are also members here? Some of the comments are regarding things we have discussed here. All very valid points.
SU2C are working to raise awareness and bring in funding for trials etc. If I was Tiffany I would feel ashamed selling my own merch, instead of suggesting viewers could buy merch from SU2C. On par with walking into a cancer research charity store, setting up a table and selling stuff and keeping profits for myself.

suzeq said:
"They" say the opposite of love is not hate, but indifference. I think I've reached a point where, beyond the thoroughly enjoyable past time of taking the piss out of her here at TL, I'm simply too apathetic to mount a hostile or angry response nor do I still have a dogged desire to clear up her dodgy narrative. I simply don't care anymore what's true or not or how far down the rabbit hole she's taken us. Lol, I think the holidays might have softened me...that, or because I've now watched many inspiring and authentic cancer YTers that have been mentioned here.
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I don't think T will stop vlogging. No chance! T is addicted to vlogging which is evident by not only YT videos, but also wanting to set up a Tiffany thinks book club, a tea with T thinks etc < Like she was the queen sat addressing the nation. I see addiction.
I'm sure when she is back home that she will be back to putting out as many videos as possible.
I have seen comments from forum members feeling T will lose subscribers if she doesn't put out cancer related vlogs. I completely disagree, I don't think T will lose many subscribers at all. T could put out a video of her sat watching paint dry, and she will get the blue heart brigade telling her the paint looks amazing.
When I take a step back and read some of the comments from T's subscribers, I feel a little bit sad for many of them. Those that feel lonely without T's videos, and those that openly admit that they now think of T as their daughter and T's family as their extended family?
Suzeq, "They say the opposite of love is not hate, but indifference". How very true!
 
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Saydee said:
SU2C are working to raise awareness and bring in funding for trials etc. If I was Tiffany I would feel ashamed selling my own merch, instead of suggesting viewers could buy merch from SU2C. On par with walking into a cancer research charity store, setting up a table and selling stuff and keeping profits for myself.
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Good point. I would feel very sketchy doing that but I don't think T feels shame in anything she has done. When called out on stuff she basically turned it around and made it look like she didn't care if anyone watched or bought merch, etc but I think we all know she would be devastated if people stopped watching. Her true followers may stay with her if nothing is about the cancer going forward but I'd bet just as many jump ship once they see she is "ok".
 
Saydee said:
I have seen comments from forum members feeling T will lose subscribers if she doesn't put out cancer related vlogs. I completely disagree, I don't think T will lose many subscribers at all. T could put out a video of her sat watching paint dry, and she will get the blue heart brigade telling her the paint looks amazing.
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This could become quite a thing, similar to her muckbang (?) videos:

"Do you know what I am doing? Go on, have a guess. It's so exciting, I am so excited: TA-DA I am watching paint dry!!!! Are you excited? I am excited.
Look, the paint has been painted on the wall and I am watching it dry. Right now the paint is still wet, it is hectic, right, still wet and if you would touch it you would have the paint on your fingers or if you lean against the wall your clothes would be ruined as the paint is still wet, right? The paint is still wet. But now I am watching it dry, and you can watch with me, look: the paint is drying, isn't it exciting?
Let me have a sniff... MMMMHHH, the paint smells yummy! Smells really good, the paint smells yummy! I like how it smells, so yummy.
And look! Now it is a bit more dry, now the shade looks almost like the Tiffany-We-got-this blue! Maybe the shade will stay like this to the very end, this would be just perfect-perfect-perfect! By the way, today I am wearing the soft pink We got this sweatshirt, if you want one, there is always a link below in the description box! So, let's carry on to watch this paint dry..."

OMG, I could fill a book with it, surely she could do a 30 minutes vlog on it without any problems.

And lot of exciting things could happen, like Amma could bring her a juice (how much would I pay for it? what is in it? how did you make it?) or Matt could come and let her chose between two chocolate bars or even bring her a coffee.
 
whathastheworldcometo said:
This could become quite a thing, similar to her muckbang (?) videos:

"Do you know what I am doing? Go on, have a guess. It's so exciting, I am so excited: TA-DA I am watching paint dry!!!! Are you excited? I am excited.
Look, the paint has been painted on the wall and I am watching it dry. Right now the paint is still wet, it is hectic, right, still wet and if you would touch it you would have the paint on your fingers or if you lean against the wall your clothes would be ruined as the paint is still wet, right? The paint is still wet. But now I am watching it dry, and you can watch with me, look: the paint is drying, isn't it exciting?
Let me have a sniff... MMMMHHH, the paint smells yummy! Smells really good, the paint smells yummy! I like how it smells, so yummy.
And look! Now it is a bit more dry, now the shade looks almost like the Tiffany-We-got-this blue! Maybe the shade will stay like this to the very end, this would be just perfect-perfect-perfect! By the way, today I am wearing the soft pink We got this sweatshirt, if you want one, there is always a link below in the description box! So, let's carry on to watch this paint dry..."

OMG, I could fill a book with it, surely she could do a 30 minutes vlog on it without any problems.

And lot of exciting things could happen, like Amma could bring her a juice (how much would I pay for it? what is in it? how did you make it?) or Matt could come and let her chose between two chocolate bars or even bring her a coffee.
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Actually many of the vlogs have been equivalent to "paint drying" and should not require any change. Those will get views at first just to see if she slips in any hints about the surgery or how things are going but after some time the views will really decline...so will sales of the merch. and incoming gifts. Unless she plans on re=tooling things and getting informative about cancer I don't see much Yt future for TT.
 
PuzzlesAndWine said:
Good point. I would feel very sketchy doing that but I don't think T feels shame in anything she has done. When called out on stuff she basically turned it around and made it look like she didn't care if anyone watched or bought merch, etc but I think we all know she would be devastated if people stopped watching. Her true followers may stay with her if nothing is about the cancer going forward but I'd bet just as many jump ship once they see she is "ok".
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She's made a fair bit from her merch crap.
$35.99 x 1,396. Although I am shocked that 1396 people have purchased the crap.
 

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Saydee said:
She's made a fair bit from her merch crap.
$35.99 x 1,396. Although I am shocked that 1396 people have purchased the crap.
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ladyt7087 said:
Oh yes. Over $50K!!!


Does she get all of it or only a percentage?
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According to the pricing calculator available on the site.
If I was to sell 500 t shirts @ $35 each. With a front print. I'd make $10,850 profit
 

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ladyt7087 said:
It's one thing for the hospital to teach T how to properly care for her stoma. But it's another for her to actually do it herself once she's discharged. I will be shocked if she doesn't regularly call on Amma to do it or help her do it. Just because RM trains her doesn't mean T will do so on her own once at home.
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That’s very true and maybe Amma Wants to do anything to be of help to Tiffany. But it would be unfair if she agrees to let her mother do it

Turaj said:
Yes I saw that video last night and I sure did not like what I heard. It made me think how very lucky Tiffany was to find this surgeon that would do that operation...no matter what the outcome she at least had/has a chance at life without cancer. Not so sure about Jessica.
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I am hopeful about Jessica because she is in very good hands at the Mayo Clinic. I was fortunate to visit the mayo clinic for a conference and the care there is unbelievable.If anyone can help her they will. We were taken on a tour of the Cancer Research lab and it’s truly amazing!
 
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lisette said:
That’s very true and maybe Amma Wants to do anything to be of help to Tiffany. But it would be unfair if she agrees to let her mother do it


I am hopeful about Jessica because she is in very good hands at the Mayo Clinic. I was fortunate to visit the mayo clinic for a conference and the care there is unbelievable.If anyone can help her they will. We were taken on a tour of the Cancer Research lab and it’s truly amazing!
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Agree on Mayo Clinic...that is where I go for most of my care as I live within 2 hours of Rochester Mn. They have many minds working to figure out her case and so hope for the best. Some were telling her to get a second opinion but I think that is happening within the clinic. She seemed so down and on top of that they had both been sick.
 
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