This is mothership
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Agree with all the above... TIM have maybe been abit too quick to be seen as being active and doing the ‘right thing’ in calling out something they think is wrong but not actually seen the post/ caption in full? It’s all abit of a mess. What are people’s thoughts aside from this? I can’t seem to make my mind up about them!
They have now sent her an email threatening legal action...classy NOT. That’s where I unfollowed them. Mothership threatening a woman who is 41 weeks pregnant and clearly distraught. Your right it won’t harm them as half their followers are more interested in fake motherhood/fashion than anti racism.
Wow Re legal action - for liking a post. Seems to have all got blown out of any proportion.
I like TIM - enjoy the skincare advice and fashion - i do feel they have let themselves down here.
The real issue with anti-Semitism is being lost and that's what I think they were trying to highlight.
I like TIM - enjoy the skincare advice and fashion - i do feel they have let themselves down here.
The real issue with anti-Semitism is being lost and that's what I think they were trying to highlight.
Milorlinski
Member
Didn’t their last post say they stand for community kindness? But then the day before, ‘without saying any names, yet very clearly’ hinted at another instagrammer being anti-Semitic to their community of 51k knowing it wouldn’t be hard to find out who they were. Didn’t sound like they were encouraging community kindness then, a little bit like a witch hunt. Ok witch hunt is dramatic but you know
I think TIM we’re out of order to be honest. I not up to them to be all high and mighty and passively aggressively challenge an account because of a post they’ve supposedly liked. I’ve followed TIM for a long time but I’m unfollowing today. They seem to be very judgemental and not living in the real world somehow- they don’t reflect working mums anymore, especially Gemma with her clearly privileged life and strong support network, yet all she does is moan! She has a cleaner, she’s often having “alone time” yet she moans. I’ll never forget a post she did asking for mini fridge recommendations because she couldn’t be arsed to get out of bed in a morning and make the kids bottles
Racism and Anti Semitism are clearly very wrong but she needs to get down off her high horse. I feel a bit sorry for the account she called out- and her messages were soooooo passive aggressive! Unfollowing.
witch hunt crossed my mind too.
Notsurereally
Active member
I agree it was an absolute witch hunt and I agree with most of what The Vitamin D project said in her live.
The proof is in the pudding. TIM and Gemma have limited their comments whereas Vit D project hasn't.
Vit D project basically asked why she wasn't given the benefit of the doubt if it appeared she liked a questionable post, but Gemma was just straight on to her.
Also their summary of what happened wasn't accurate. She didn't call them threatening or abusive, she did call them racist though. That might be where the legal action is coming from.
I unfollowed TIM ages ago when it was quite apparent that the Mothership was perpetuating the same middle class, White motherhood as so many other accounts.
The woman is 41 weeks pregnant, she just doesn't need the crap.
The proof is in the pudding. TIM and Gemma have limited their comments whereas Vit D project hasn't.
Vit D project basically asked why she wasn't given the benefit of the doubt if it appeared she liked a questionable post, but Gemma was just straight on to her.
Also their summary of what happened wasn't accurate. She didn't call them threatening or abusive, she did call them racist though. That might be where the legal action is coming from.
I unfollowed TIM ages ago when it was quite apparent that the Mothership was perpetuating the same middle class, White motherhood as so many other accounts.
The woman is 41 weeks pregnant, she just doesn't need the crap.
I think TIM we’re out of order to be honest. I not up to them to be all high and mighty and passively aggressively challenge an account because of a post they’ve supposedly liked. I’ve followed TIM for a long time but I’m unfollowing today. They seem to be very judgemental and not living in the real world somehow- they don’t reflect working mums anymore, especially Gemma with her clearly privileged life and strong support network, yet all she does is moan! She has a cleaner, she’s often having “alone time” yet she moans. I’ll never forget a post she did asking for mini fridge recommendations because she couldn’t be arsed to get out of bed in a morning and make the kids bottles
Racism and Anti Semitism are clearly very wrong but she needs to get down off her high horse. I feel a bit sorry for the account she called out- and her messages were soooooo passive aggressive! Unfollowing.
witch hunt crossed my mind too.
Ahh I remember the mini fridge saga
I am so surprised that this is the first thread about TIM.. i found tattle after Clemmie Hoopers fall from grace and have been a lurker since then ( keeping me occupied whilst feeding a newborn!). I could never understand why everyone else has a thread but these two didn't. Gemma is always abit moany/negative and woe is me, Doesn’t live in the real world at all.. think Sam comes across nicer and is abit more careful to flaunt her middle class privilege. Guessing Sam will be mad at Gemma behind the scenes though... the screenshot of the conversation didn’t paint G in a good light.. she was rather aggressive and rude to vitamind. I didn’t know of Vitamind but I went to her account and had a look at her posts and IGTV and it seems her responses are normal to her, the tone and character etc.. if TIM did actually follow VitaminD and had engaged previously they would have known her responses, tone and character.This! You’ve said what I wanted to say but so much more eloquently. I’m glad I’ve found some like minded people with similar views on TIM to be honest- and in particular Gemma. I agree- I bet Sam was angry behind the scenes. She seems much more humble about her life and privilege and much more down to earth in general.Ahh I remember the mini fridge saga
I used to really like these two and their account. I mean- really like it! I had babies around the same time and really enjoyed their account during the night feeds etc. But now, I can’t stand Gemma’s constant preaching (my kids only drink water- but it’s ok if yours don’t! My kids only wear black and white because colour is tacky- but it’s ok if yours wear it! My kids don’t eat sugar because it’s the devil- but it’s ok if yours eat it!) oh bore off Gemma. Sam on the other hand, tells us that she’s knackered, tells us that the kids have had chicken nuggets and tells us that her husband isn’t taking the washing upstairs. I can relate! I therefore respect her content a lot more.
There was really no need for Gemma to bully the Vitamin D lady which I really feel she did. I’m so shocked that she had so little self awareness as to think it was OK to post what she’d sent! She perhaps just got carried away with the recent BLM movement and recent campaigns but to single somebody out like that was wrong. Why has she become so smug all of a sudden? Or maybe she was always that way. But the fridge- haha! I’m glad you remember! So many more examples like that where I rolled my eyes so hard they nearly got stuck at the back of my head! I felt like telling her to do what the rest of us do, go downstairs half asleep and make your child a bottle!!!!!
Heyhilondon
New member
Never posted and just a lurker too! But seeing this play out really annoyed me. I stopped following TIM last year when they were trying to sell to their fan base that flying short haul the entire family for a weekend away is better for the environment compare to driving. They didn’t even look it up, based their evidence on a random DM from somebody.
but I follow vitaminD and she is so vocal about the highest standard that are expected from black women. Gemma s messages to her were so patronising, I am not sure what she was expected her to reply. And if you really care about justice, discrimination etc would you pick and single out a black pregnant woman?? I found the all thing absolutely vile and a prime example of privilege at his best.
but I follow vitaminD and she is so vocal about the highest standard that are expected from black women. Gemma s messages to her were so patronising, I am not sure what she was expected her to reply. And if you really care about justice, discrimination etc would you pick and single out a black pregnant woman?? I found the all thing absolutely vile and a prime example of privilege at his best.
exactly this 
I’m so angry they felt they cld do that to a pregnant woman they had claimed to engaged with before. And in such a passive aggressive way. “I’m just trying to understand and educate myself on why you’re so prejudice and awful” OK, not those exact words but the tone was similar! I think Gemma (as it was clearly her that carried out the bullying) has been used to getting her own way and has a very high opinion of herself. I’ve unfollowed now but I’m angry about what a nasty entitled little mean girl she has shown herself to be- if you can’t tell
I just can’t abide people who think they’re so much better than others and who constantly take the moral high ground. Patronising and not at all in the real world. But in contrast, Sam comes across really well in my opinion and like a previous poster said, I’m sure she must be angry at this too.Heytheredelilah
Member
Wow! Just watched the video, she was absolutely right to address it, 41 weeks pregnant and been messaged about this. Shocking.
I dip and out of watching TIM posts, I prefer Sam but find Gemma patronising and moany. Can’t stand the condescending way she talks about her kids eating, such as no sugar for them and being self righteous about it whilst scoffing chocolate herself. And the mini fridge for her sons milk - wtf!!
She seems quite dissatisfied about her life and over dramatic.
I can’t abide all the faux moral high ground of things linked to covid like advising that a table has been set in the garden but obviously her and friends all then sat on the grass to ensure social distancing, the never ever mentioning being Jewish, nor celebrating any part of it and now focusing on it. The ‘diverse world’ highlight, packed with things 8 weeks ago and then nothing....the current content is feeling quite contrived.
As a fashion focused page they should maybe spend some time calling out the big brands if they really mean things linked to their moral high ground, such as brands who aren’t paying their suppliers for cancelled orders in Bangladesh/India etc, calling out BooHoo for modern slavery in the Leicester factories etc. Nor in the pre lockdown days mirroring Caroline Hiron stance on shouting about beauty brands who weren’t looking after their employees and keeping them on the shop floors/in offices etc......I don’t remember seeing anything on any of this!
I dip and out of watching TIM posts, I prefer Sam but find Gemma patronising and moany. Can’t stand the condescending way she talks about her kids eating, such as no sugar for them and being self righteous about it whilst scoffing chocolate herself. And the mini fridge for her sons milk - wtf!!
She seems quite dissatisfied about her life and over dramatic.
I can’t abide all the faux moral high ground of things linked to covid like advising that a table has been set in the garden but obviously her and friends all then sat on the grass to ensure social distancing, the never ever mentioning being Jewish, nor celebrating any part of it and now focusing on it. The ‘diverse world’ highlight, packed with things 8 weeks ago and then nothing....the current content is feeling quite contrived.
As a fashion focused page they should maybe spend some time calling out the big brands if they really mean things linked to their moral high ground, such as brands who aren’t paying their suppliers for cancelled orders in Bangladesh/India etc, calling out BooHoo for modern slavery in the Leicester factories etc. Nor in the pre lockdown days mirroring Caroline Hiron stance on shouting about beauty brands who weren’t looking after their employees and keeping them on the shop floors/in offices etc......I don’t remember seeing anything on any of this!
Yes to all of this!
I messaged their account at beginning of lockdown and asked if they would share my sisters little Company (She’s a mum
To two little ones) which she makes cake toppers/ party bits and Monthly craft boxes... they replied and said no because they get so many requests It would irritate their audience...it takes 5 seconds to share it but went on to spam with af links on their stories (And af links where they make money off our purchases isn’t annoying??) . It’s all about money. I think it was prob Gemma in hindsight that replied, rude witch. I do laugh when they say they are ‘working’ MumS lmao
yeah ok, sittting at each other’s kitchen tables drinking coffee eating free cookies whilst writing a blog post fml what has world come to.I always think this whenever they call themselves “busy working mums”. Gemma seems to be without her kids more than she’s with them, usually in Ikea on her own or Selfridges at 9am- they’re the opposite of busy working mums!! I suppose it must be hard turning up at each other’s houses once a week at 10am, drinking coffee, writing a blog, baking a cake and then leaving at 2pmYes to all of this!
I messaged their account at beginning of lockdown and asked if they would share my sisters little Company (She’s a mum
To two little ones) which she makes cake toppers/ party bits and Monthly craft boxes... they replied and said no because they get so many requests It would irritate their audience...it takes 5 seconds to share it but went on to spam with af links on their stories (And af links where they make money off our purchases isn’t annoying??) . It’s all about money. I think it was prob Gemma in hindsight that replied, rude witch. I do laugh when they say they are ‘working’ MumS lmao
They’re just so busy and in regards to your sisters company, this is what bothers me- they’re so fake and make out that they’re all about the woman hood but they’re more for the free PR samples- Gemma in particular! For a period of about 4 weeks, I noticed everything her and her kids wore was a PR sample.Heytheredelilah
Member
I think they’ll just not acknowledge it again and hope everyone forgets.
the threat of legal action was ridiculous- spoilt girls not used to being challenged, and clearly not by someone more eloquent or intelligent then them.
Heyhilondon
New member
Followers will forget quickly. TIM will keep their platform - they are good looking and have a very aspirational lifestyle. But their true colours were showing before and they are now in plain sight.
I direct messaged them asking why they singled out a pregnant black woman to ‘teach’ her about bias and racism and they replied to me that there was a lot more she did that they were not disclosing wow I was truly shocked at the length they are going to discredit her.
I direct messaged them asking why they singled out a pregnant black woman to ‘teach’ her about bias and racism and they replied to me that there was a lot more she did that they were not disclosing
wow I was truly shocked at the length they are going to discredit her.That’s awful, making themselves look like true mean girlsFollowers will forget quickly. TIM will keep their platform - they are good looking and have a very aspirational lifestyle. But their true colours were showing before and they are now in plain sight.
I direct messaged them asking why they singled out a pregnant black woman to ‘teach’ her about bias and racism and they replied to me that there was a lot more she did that they were not disclosing
I always think this whenever they call themselves “busy working mums”. Gemma seems to be without her kids more than she’s with them, usually in Ikea on her own or Selfridges at 9am- they’re the opposite of busy working mums!! I suppose it must be hard turning up at each other’s houses once a week at 10am, drinking coffee, writing a blog, baking a cake and then leaving at 2pm
I messaged them during their free ski holiday and said it was unrealistic to a normal Person All that crap they were sharing. Their entire trip was free including their clothing. All their clothes are free it’s shocking how much they must get sent.