The Traitors #8

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emerald said:
Unfortunately I think Mollie is well aware that she's been taken for a ride and it's been publicly broadcast. And that people are freaks who will make a value judgement of her entire character and not be afraid to tell her, online and to her face.

Rich coming from me on tattle, but I keep it on tattle.
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Agree 100% with this! I've made comments on here about her game play (or lack of, as if were!) But anyone sending hate directly to her needs to have a word with themselves. It's a game show at the end of the day and none of us here know what the experience was actually like and how we would behave in the situation. She came across as a sweet, harmless (albeit naive to her detriment) young girl and it was lovely to see her speak on overcoming her insecurities about her disability. I hope she does well from having the TV exposure!
 
ot55 said:
I know people are saying why would Jaz vote to banish again if he was a traitor. But Molly didn’t think there were any traitors left, she voted green. To her, it was possible all 3 could’ve been faithfuls and Jaz was wrongly suspicious.

She was choosing which ‘faithful’ she wanted to share the money with, which is why she picked Harry. She didn’t actually think either was a traitor.
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I can understand this view but then with a bit of critical thinking, Andrew planted the seed with his statements about Harry right before he revealed he was a traitor. Why couldn’t she have pieced it together with what Andrew said and Jaz choosing not to end the game.
 
Jelly Bean said:
I don't get Harry at all. He presents as so dense. When he was picked as a Traitor I thought it was laughable tbh. But bloody hell the brains on that guy. Several times in traitor meetings it was suggested murdering Mollie (as it would appear so random) but he was 'no no she'll do exactly what I want her to do' and when it really mattered she did.
So I don't blame her for not thinking rationally at the end, Harry had been busy putting in the groundwork all the way along the line. Always 5 steps ahead of everyone else.
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It's ironic because he was nearly rumbled by Diane within seconds.

I think he was the best Traitor because he portrayed unthreatening, innocent affability whilst having an excellent survivor's instinct. The former allowed him to go unsuspected throughout, whilst the latter meant he could push out Ash, Miles, Paul and Ross when needed, alongside forming little workable plans like the shield one to go undetected.

What distinguishes him from Paul is that Paul got too cocky and convoluted with his plans and manipulations, ultimately ending him. Harry had risky moments too (e.g. the inadvertent provocation of Ross; revealing the dungeon plan; the final betrayal from Andrew) but could rely on his game plan above to see him through. Sure, he also benefitted from Faithful brain fades, but that's half the game.
 
I stand by Harry’s winning tactic being defending the faithfuls early on. When a faithful was attacked he would often stick up for them and he gradually began to gain more and more of their trust doing this. I don’t think he consciously had this as a game plan but I really think he got in the mindset that he was a faithful for the first few banishments.

I think the only way he ever would have gone out was if Andrew and Ross had teamed up rather than turning against eachother. Andrew was never going to trust Harry.
 
Respect to Claudia for not going along with pretending she picks the traitors all by herself. She gave credit to the producers for being involved and I can believe she has some input as well.

Also the interview with Andrew made me realise he probably had the best all round experience. He started off as a faithful, got picked for the dungeon, got recruited as a traitor, managed to overcome the switch (he said it is quite hard switching from faithful to traitor mindset), manage to make it all the way to the final and all the challenges. He experienced so much.

I think he was right to turn on Harry when he did but he just overplayed it and went too hard. He could have picked up from what Jaz said about Harry a bit less aggressively and maybe Jaz would have gone for Harry first instead of Andrew.

It would have been interesting to see what would have happened if it was a draw between Harry and Andrew at that stage! (But maybe not quite as interesting as seeing Harry reveal to Mollie he was a traitor! Brutal for Mollie but fantastic tv 😂).
 
Jelly Bean said:
I don't get Harry at all. He presents as so dense. When he was picked as a Traitor I thought it was laughable tbh. But bloody hell the brains on that guy. Several times in traitor meetings it was suggested murdering Mollie (as it would appear so random) but he was 'no no she'll do exactly what I want her to do' and when it really mattered she did.
So I don't blame her for not thinking rationally at the end, Harry had been busy putting in the groundwork all the way along the line. Always 5 steps ahead of everyone else.
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Yeah he's a Lance corporal in the army so a trained military man is going to be skilled at observation, detail and covering all bases, leaving nothing unchecked and that is a big advantage that others did underestimate.

Taking a person you trust to the final is essential to win it, it has to be done 🙁

Harry could of gone in so hard at the fire pit with pressure tactics or begging her or something else nasty to force her hand .

Harry and Jaz in my opinion were very respectful of Mollie they both stood there quietly neither said or did anything disrespectful at the fire pit while she changed the name three times, I think that says a lot about both of them .
 
I’m surprised Jaz and Andrew didn’t argue that the people who knew about the shield had gone and were proven to be faithfuls so how was Harry’s shield theory still true? I think Jaz played so well to get to the final without being murdered or banished whilst still getting traitors out he deserved to win but I also think Harry played a brilliant game, the shield thing was such a good move. Mollie unfortunately trusted him no matter what but maybe felt at the end she wanted him to win even if it meant she didn’t, she must have known he was a traitor when Jaz wanted to vote again but fair play to Harry for playing the game. Harry had a strong team though to help, Jaz didn’t he really needed other good players but they didn’t think logically it was more who they liked. Mollie is young and naive, but hope this doesn’t get to her too much she doesn’t deserve hate, it’s only a game. Great TV though.
 
Disappointed with Harry winning because I was hoping for Jaz to win...but also Mollie didn't necessarily deserve to win half. Weird lacklustre end though, with Claudia and Harry stood alone outside and the shout from Harry. He gives me the ick like some others here and that "I'm the best traitor in the world!" really solidified the ick for me haha.
 
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Harry's game plan started when he tried to make out he couldn't afford to take his family out to dinner, the poor little army boy routine, it endears people straight off the bat especially English people, they have a mad soft spot for anyone in the army.
Harry is no way poor, he comes from a good back ground and obviously now we see who his gf is, the pics of the designer gear, private jets, luxurious holidays etc. He played the game and the people so well, maybe a little too well haha

My vote for the people's winner would go to jaz, done so well after seeing his name on a slate early on to avoid being banished or murdered, picking his timings perfectly to out his theories, he was just so clued in, he lost that monet coz you can't compete with a love struck girl defending her 'man' .
For me it just shows that because he wasn't popular his opinions were sort of dismissed alot and that was his down fall.

Gutted Harry won as that would have been some twist for jaz and mollie to win after Harry playing it so well but it was a cracking series
 
Irishgal85 said:
Harry's game plan started when he tried to make out he couldn't afford to take his family out to dinner, the poor little army boy routine, it endears people straight off the bat especially English people, they have a mad soft spot for anyone in the army.
Harry is no way poor, he comes from a good back ground and obviously now we see who his gf is, the pics of the designer gear, private jets, luxurious holidays etc. He played the game and the people so well, maybe a little too well haha

My vote for the people's winner would go to jaz, done so well after seeing his name on a slate early on to avoid being banished or murdered, picking his timings perfectly to out his theories, he was just so clued in, he lost that monet coz you can't compete with a love struck girl defending her 'man' .
For me it just shows that because he wasn't popular his opinions were sort of dismissed alot and that was his down fall.

Gutted Harry won as that would have been some twist for jaz and mollie to win after Harry playing it so well but it was a cracking series
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Harry’s girlfriend is Anna Maynard. As we know she herself is a cbbc presenter. Her brothers are Connor Maynard, a singer, and Jack Maynard, a YouTuber. Her family are rich and he’s likely scrounging off them. The dinners, diamonds and jet set lifestyle; none of them are his. He’s another wannabe influencer who needs to be humbled.
 
I really enjoyed it, thought it was a great series. If anyone from the show lurking on here I have two requests 😊
1. That it be shown Mon/Wed/ Friday - it lost momentum at times waiting 5 days on a cliffhanger.
2. Contestants wear name tags at least for the first 3 episodes. It was only towards the last week I stopped saying ‘the one in the basement with long hair and glasses’ and ‘one of the blondes’…..
 
hol20x said:
The moral of the story is don't fancy a man.
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Sucks as a gay man. 😆
 
Satisfying ending! As much as I wanted Jaz to win, that would have meant Mollie did too and she didn’t deserve to.

I’m not sure the money is best in Harry’s hands, he’s likely going to piss it away on designer clothes.

I do hope Mollie is alright… completely humiliating experience and Harry really didn’t seem to feel bad either 😬 I hope in the next series there’s less of a popularity contest because of this, and people think outside of the box a bit more that it could be their friends or those they click with. Jasmine and Zach had a great friendship but they still considered eachother as potential traitors and rightly so!
 
Been lurking for a while, newby this series but absolutely loved it!! Had a massive crush on Harry but even if I didn’t he played the game so well, he deserved to win. I do feel sorry for Mollie, she clearly had feelings for him that massively clouded her judgment… I won’t judge her for it I’d have prob been the same!! 🙊 At the end of the day it was the aim of the game so I really hope she doesn’t hold it against Harry. It must be quite embarrassing for her though the fact the whole nation has now seen and is talking about it! But she definitely doesn’t deserve hate, I think she’s lovely.

What series shall I watch next, Australian or UK series 1?! 🤔
 
Missy92 said:
Been lurking for a while, newby this series but absolutely loved it!! Had a massive crush on Harry but even if I didn’t he played the game so well, he deserved to win. I do feel sorry for Mollie, she clearly had feelings for him that massively clouded her judgment… I won’t judge her for it I’d have prob been the same!! 🙊 At the end of the day it was the aim of the game so I really hope she doesn’t hold it against Harry. It must be quite embarrassing for her though the fact the whole nation has now seen and is talking about it! But she definitely doesn’t deserve hate, I think she’s lovely.

What series shall I watch next, Australian or UK series 1?! 🤔
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UK series 1, because if you had a massive crush on Harry, wait until you see Series 1 Aaron.
 
Rainbow Blossom said:
Satisfying ending! As much as I wanted Jaz to win, that would have meant Mollie did too and she didn’t deserve to.

I’m not sure the money is best in Harry’s hands, he’s likely going to piss it away on designer clothes.

I do hope Mollie is alright… completely humiliating experience and Harry really didn’t seem to feel bad either 😬 I hope in the next series there’s less of a popularity contest because of this, and people think outside of the box a bit more that it could be their friends or those they click with. Jasmine and Zach had a great friendship but they still considered eachother as potential traitors and rightly so!
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Jasmine and Zach came across so well on Uncloaked.

I find the psychology of this game fascinating. I’d love to hear a professional’s take on it. They all know it’s a game, what the game involves and what they signed up for but the emotions with the levels of trust and the feelings of betrayal seem so real.

It will be interesting to see how a third series progresses when those players will have seen various tactics play out. Jaz has shown traitors they shouldn’t just believe the quiet players are coasting and are of no threat. The only thing that saved Harry at that final hurdle was Mollie’s crush on him. Any other player and I think he would have lost.
 
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