The Moscow/Idaho murders

[Tangent Tiger]

Yeah, I only read 4chan today for the first time and was really taken aback by it. Uni was not like that at all in my day.

Can't imagine K's dad would have been involved with the deaths.

 

[Merpedy]

but according to that article he brought the death certificate and that is where he got the details about K's injuries but with the way he explained K"s injuries it sounds like he paid for the damn autopsy. but I understand that he is upset right now. but he really needs to be quiet so the case can get solved.

Apparently the daughter has come out and said that the FOX news article (the newest one) is fake

Strikes me as weird and like the family is backpedaling personally. Fox hardly has a good reputation but I’m sure creating fake interviews crosses the line even for them?


I think the weird juggling neighbour is more likely tbh. The dude sounds unhinged

 

[GlassOfBeans]

Weird juggling neighbour is weird! I’m not convinced he heard a scream, he posted on social media the following day about NOT hearing any screams so??? He’s either inserted himself in to the case, as some people do, or he’s misremembered what he heard. Maybe he did hear something and now with the knowledge of what happened that night, he thinks that what he heard was a scream. Witness testimonies are notoriously inaccurate for this reason.

I don’t think the dad did it at all, what’s the motive? To kill his daughter? He could have done it in a place with far less risk than a student neighbourhood on a Saturday night. He’s just grieving and because there is no one to direct his anger to i.e no suspect, he is lashing out at the police.

What do we think about the 4chan claims?

 

[Upintheair83]

Weird juggling neighbour is weird! I’m not convinced he heard a scream, he posted on social media the following day about NOT hearing any screams so??? He’s either inserted himself in to the case, as some people do, or he’s misremembered what he heard. Maybe he did hear something and now with the knowledge of what happened that night, he thinks that what he heard was a scream. Witness testimonies are notoriously inaccurate for this reason.

I don’t think the dad did it at all, what’s the motive? To kill his daughter? He could have done it in a place with far less risk than a student neighbourhood on a Saturday night. He’s just grieving and because there is no one to direct his anger to i.e no suspect, he is lashing out at the police.

What do we think about the 4chan claims?

Did you read his (stick juggler man, aka inan harsh)weird ass rant/ post on reddit this morning? He's either a total oddball or he could be a suspect. Its literally paragraphs of his life story- about all the drugs hes done and trouble hes been in, but also mentions his love for knives and how they are good for slicing but not stabbing. it was really egotistical and attention seeking. He kept dropping in that he was peace loving etc and talked about meditation!! He mentioned he had met kaylee and maddie, been round and gave them wine and how he wanted to use their garden to juggle his sticks in!! Just some really odd things in it. He then directed everyone to his ig account which was.....weird, plus he follows Maddie. I dunno a really weird guy. And it's definitely him as he provided evidence to the moderators and that's the reason they allowed the post. The comments were a mixture of wtf and some who just thought he was weird. He could be genuinely lonely but if I lived near him I would 100% be keeping away!

 

[LasVegas702]

He earned the knowledge because he paid for the death certificate and autopsy reports, that is what he means.




That was debunked as fake. It’s creepy as hell and it even had similar door handles but on Reddit it was debunked. Someone got the photo information, I don’t know what the technical term is… like the photo data.

thanks, because those photos were creepy me out.

oh okay I see Steve also purchased the autopsy reports too. Thanks for clearing that up.

 

[LasVegas702]

@LasVegas702 Yes I saw those two articles! I’m glad the police are clamping down on harassment.

With the coroner also working on that other arrest, I think that rules out that it is related to the Idaho murders.

I listened to a recent interview with Chief James Fry and he said he regrets some of the miscommunication in the first few days but the important things were handled correctly, I’ll find the interview again and link it. I feel like he was alluding to the crime scene and collecting DNA. The knife would have been slippy with blood so there is potential for the killer to cut themselves and at least one of the victim had defence wounds so there is potential for DNA there and police said that they took fingernail clippings. I think the only thing that would hinder this would be how contaminated the scene was by the friends coming in to the house.

Also there have been big clues in the press releases from what the police DON’T say and the specific language used. For example, the friends were “summoned” over, they did not say called. The latest big clue is that they are looking for “the occupant(s)” of the white car, they did not say the owners of the car.

what I mean I google the following
"idaho coroner idaho murders reddit"
and one of the articles that came up was this, article is from Nov 18 2022 and some of these older article are good with some of the details about the case. I'm still trying to catch up. So much going on and my mom's sick right now. So I haven't been keeping up and I would other wise.

 

[Upintheair83]

what I mean I google the following
"idaho coroner idaho murders reddit"
and one of the articles that came up was this, article is from Nov 18 2022 and some of these older article are good with some of the details about the case. I'm still trying to catch up. So much going on and my mom's sick right now. So I haven't been keeping up and I would other wise.

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It's so hard to keep up with it! And it's such a bizzare case in the fact that there are SO many rumours/ possibilities going around. Like initially people thought it could be the food truck guy who was watching the girls, then it was Jeremy, the weird neighbour who kept doing interviews, then it was mentioned about kaylees ex bf, and then the bakery guy who allegedly stalked kaylee, this weird stick juggler neighbour and now all these rumours on 4chan about the frat boys. There's also another crazy rumour about maddies ex roommate (hannah cleere) who allegedly was so bullied by maddie and her mates, took her own life and they reckon it could be her brother who wanted revenge. Just crazy, crazy stuff! The Internet is full of rumours and I feel sorry for the police trying to get to the truth. I actually think they are doing a good job and I feel they know more than they are letting on, they just need solid evidence.
My opinion still stands that it could be the guy at the food truck, just his behaviour seemed creepy to me. He was literally watching their every move and I feel he could have been infatuated with one of them. There's plenty of photos of him at the house and i feel this is part of the problem- his dna in the house can be explained away.
I reckon if he could stand their and stalk them in full view of people, he could stand outside their house and wait for them to go to bed and then do what he did.

I really hope the case doesn't go cold
Ps hope your mum gets better soon x

 

[Tangent Tiger]

No I can't follow it.

People seem to be getting into a frenzy of speculation/misinformation. I'll still read, but hope justice can be done.

 

[Aberscot]

Weird juggling neighbour is weird! I’m not convinced he heard a scream, he posted on social media the following day about NOT hearing any screams so??? He’s either inserted himself in to the case, as some people do, or he’s misremembered what he heard. Maybe he did hear something and now with the knowledge of what happened that night, he thinks that what he heard was a scream. Witness testimonies are notoriously inaccurate for this reason.

I don’t think the dad did it at all, what’s the motive? To kill his daughter? He could have done it in a place with far less risk than a student neighbourhood on a Saturday night. He’s just grieving and because there is no one to direct his anger to i.e no suspect, he is lashing out at the police.

What do we think about the 4chan claims?

I don’t think Dad did it either, but I think he should stay out press and not say anything leave it to the police.Although if it was my kid murdered I don’t know how I would react if a month on nobody caught yet.
I think police know a lot more and maybe on to someone as no appeals for info or anything new recently apart from the white car which is obviously something they know and keen to get info on.
Hopefully they have DNA and are working on that.
The 4chan is weird and could be student kids messing about however could be truth to it and sure the police have followed up on it. I am thinking its something like this that went down, remember the police asking for info about Ethan And Xana whereabouts , were they trying to get info about arguments at the frat party that night ?
The neighbours weird but is he just enjoying the press attention on him,,,,
I just can’t get how they escaped and no blood trail as stabbing 4 ppl to death there must have been blood all over them.

 

[Tangent Tiger]

I don’t think Dad did it either, but I think he should stay out press and not say anything leave it to the police.Although if it was my kid murdered I don’t know how I would react if a month on nobody caught yet.
I think police know a lot more and maybe on to someone as no appeals for info or anything new recently apart from the white car which is obviously something they know and keen to get info on.
Hopefully they have DNA and are working on that.
The 4chan is weird and could be student kids messing about however could be truth to it and sure the police have followed up on it. I am thinking its something like this that went down, remember the police asking for info about Ethan And Xana whereabouts , were they trying to get info about arguments at the frat party that night ?
The neighbours weird but is he just enjoying the press attention on him,,,,
I just can’t get how they escaped and no blood trail as stabbing 4 ppl to death there must have been blood all over them.

4chan was like wandering into a parallel universe yesterday, I didn't have a clue what they were on about. What is 'larping'?

 

[JSquared]

I saw the video at the food truck and it seemed like hoodie guy walked up to the truck alongside them, as if he was with them.
I think at a time like this, even the most innocent of things can seem/be turned sinister.
Just hope the police do know more than they are letting in and this can be resolved quickly.
Must be terrifying living in that area not knowing who and why.

 

[Upintheair83]

4chan was like wandering into a parallel universe yesterday, I didn't have a clue what they were on about. What is 'larping'?

I darent go on there! Seems like a cesspool of weirdos! I honestly have no idea what that is!!

 

[Aberscot]

4chan was like wandering into a parallel universe yesterday, I didn't have a clue what they were on about. What is 'larping'?

No idea…. Couldn’t understand half of it!

 

[sassmaster3000]

Larping is “Live Action Role Playing” - from what I saw at college, it’s those kids who dress up and pretend they’re in medieval times, though I guess in theory you could dress up and pretend you’re from any period of time

 

[GlassOfBeans]

what I mean I google the following
"idaho coroner idaho murders reddit"
and one of the articles that came up was this, article is from Nov 18 2022 and some of these older article are good with some of the details about the case. I'm still trying to catch up. So much going on and my mom's sick right now. So I haven't been keeping up and I would other wise.

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Ah I see what you mean! Yes the old articles are good and Brian Entin/NewsNation seems to be a reliable source too. Sorry to hear your mum is sick, sending love

There's plenty of photos of him at the house and i feel this is part of the problem- his dna in the house can be explained away.
I reckon if he could stand their and stalk them in full view of people, he could stand outside their house and wait for them to go to bed and then do what he did.

I really hope the case doesn't go cold
Ps hope your mum gets better soon x

That’s what I’m nervous about, with it being a “party house” there could be loads of people’s DNA in that house that could be “explained” that way… I guess it depends WHERE they find the DNA and whether the police locked down the crime scene? And the speculation around the 911 call changes every time I log on!

 

[Merpedy]

What do we think about the 4chan claims?

Already given my opinion but I also had a scroll through the discussion yesterday and I found it interesting that someone was asking for a frat boy to come out and tell them everything. As if by some sort of magic one suddenly appeared and gave them all that info

I saw the video at the food truck and it seemed like hoodie guy walked up to the truck alongside them, as if he was with them.

I also got the sense that he was with them or friends with them and only followed them out of concern for their level of intoxication/possibly whatever one of them said to him. I think a lot of people commenting on everyone are not putting context into the situation - it’s a small college town and everyone, or at least most people, know each other of each other. Idk how students act in the US, but in the UK it seems that most of them will look out for one another, especially if drinking

 

[GlassOfBeans]

The neighbours weird but is he just enjoying the press attention on him,,,,
I just can’t get how they escaped and no blood trail as stabbing 4 ppl to death there must have been blood all over them.

Totally agree with everything you said! Also that’s one of the biggest things I can’t get my head around, no blood trail out the sliding door, or the back window or the front door or anywhere? The killer must have put some planning in to that

 

[mooseknuckle]

I saw the video at the food truck and it seemed like hoodie guy walked up to the truck alongside them, as if he was with them.
I think at a time like this, even the most innocent of things can seem/be turned sinister.
Just hope the police do know more than they are letting in and this can be resolved quickly.
Must be terrifying living in that area not knowing who and why.

The food truck guy could’ve met them while they were out, they said no to hooking up and he just kept following hoping for them to change their mind. I’ve had it happen many times to me when I’ve been out and someone can’t handle ‘no’

Maybe they knew him already, maybe they had said no in the past and he tried again. Maybe they played on it, thought it was funny and he thought something was happening? There’s been a few people come forward saying the girls weren’t nice girls (who knows if that’s true or not), not that that excuses anything at all, but maybe he just snapped? He doesn’t go up to them at all just hovers and watches them. It’s the fact they walked away from him quickly and then he ran in the other direction - some suggest to get his car, some suggest he gave up and just went home. His house was only a five minute walk from theirs, he was kicked out of a fraternity and he’s now left the country.. It’s all just ‘maybes’ and ‘what ifs’ but he still seems dodgy to me.

 

[GlassOfBeans]

What’s the most confusing or strange aspect of this case for you?

For me, it’s how is there no blood trail and how did he escape in bloody clothes without being seen

 

[mooseknuckle]

What’s the most confusing or strange aspect of this case for you?

For me, it’s how is there no blood trail and how did he escape in bloody clothes without being seen

This!!! Does make you wonder if it was someone the room mates knew and they helped them clean up (some suggest Dylan’s bf who is into some weird things) A neighbour also said the door was wide open at 8:30am, could it be the killer leaving after being helped to clean up and come up with a story for the room mate(s) Maybe the door was left open for a reason? So someone came looking and the roommates could act like they slept through it all. It’s honestly so confusing.