One last exchange for posterity from the Fleuries' YT comments:
@moxielouise
2 hours ago
I wish you and the rest of the owners would stop kowtowing to these two. Seriously, it's like watching the unpopular kids kiss up to the quarterback and head cheerleader in hopes their luck will rub off on them. Each channel has its own vibe, own it and move forward. No one needs more of them
@annemiekvandorp4457
2 hours ago
I had to look up the word "cowtowing" to decide that I disagree with you, Louise. All these chateau owners have a good time when they visit eachother. What is wrong with that? These people are constructive, positive, cheerful, funny and they are all working real hard to preserve a lot of chateaus that were in a state of decay. I think that is wonderful. They are not "kissing up", they are making this world a little better and more beautiful. How about you? What is your contribution? Regards from The Netherlands.
@laurarobertson7294
2 hours ago
Stephanie and Phillip do not work hard . At all . They are grifters and basically are con artists. They are avaricious, unscrupulous, shallow,amoral people. Their recent ‘Buy a Star’scheme is an example of their revolting behaviour. They also began their long con by saying they would use Patreon donations for renovations on her large farmhouse ; barely any have been done and they have actually used and hurt and hurt people and taken advantage of many . They are users and lazy , slothful and funnily enough absolutely terrible hosts !!! They are not good people.
@moxielouise
1 hour ago
@annemiekvandorp4457 thanks for your counter response anne and believe it or not I am one who used to stick up for CD from its detractors. Do I feel that same opinion now? Not as much. It's the 'VIP' everyone gives them and the fawning on the every word they say as if it's written in stone that gets under my skin (in addition to the lengthy list of unfinished projects, repeated wasteful spending, lack of personal participation (moving furniture and hanging wallpaper doesn't count) etc. If they actually continued to work on these things themselves and finished them then I would have so much more respect. I meant it when I said that each channel is unique and not all, or any, should try to emulate CD. My point of view isn't shared by everyone but I am not alone in having it.