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Fishnips said:
Also a mother nursing their young and being close to them at all times is biological norm and fosters the best physical and mental health for both the mum and her baby so no. You don't have as much right to have the baby overnight if mum is willing and wishing to do so. 🤷‍♀️

Maybe if he wasn't an abusive prick, Amber would be happy to have him round to spend time with Hudson, but given the behaviour we've seen I really don't blame her for not wanting him there... It's clear to see why she wasn't happy having him at the house.
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I totally agree and I take my hands off to anyone trying to co parent, especially with a new born, I didnt let my little one out of my sight for at least 8 weeks I cant actually remember how long it was but I remember my MIL asking if I left him yet when I wanted to go to the shop but was getting him ready to come with me as well and I just said I dont want to and dont see why I should and i wasnt breastfeeding!
But the i suppose if you arent together through pregnancy you could prepare yourself for it, I do think they need to grow up though and learn to talk not shout at each other.

Fishnips said:
I know I've said in the past I think Amber is a terrible mum for screaming at Brooklyn and calling him horrible and physically grabbing him to shout in his face, and I still don't think any of that is excusable tbh, but I'm swing a lot more now that she's probably really worn down and low, even before Hudson. Every time she talks to Steve in the new series she just looks empty and exhausted and a bit lost. It's really sad for her and the boys and I worry that if Ste will behave the way people are saying in this thread whilst he's on live, what is he like when there's nobody/No camera around 😞
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That's a good point I hadn't thought about that! If hes happy to shout like that in front of the cameras what is he like behind them as everyone would tune down how they behave and want the cameras to portray them in better light!
I think Amber is just young and didnt know how to be with Brooklyn and Ste doesnt give her the support she needs with him and they do not have consistency between the two of them with regard to parenting
 
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theghosttown said:
If Amber knows Ste has anger issues or is volatile why on earth would she go on a live in front of him. Surely that’s a like a red rag to a bull. Hardly thinking of her children when she’s lighting the fuse on that situation. Not excusing his behaviour but it seems pretty contrived and manipulative. He’s clearly not staying there all the time so do it at a time where he wasn’t there.
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She should be able to go live when ever she wants in her own house. She wasn’t saying anything about Ste and I don’t think it was contrived to wind him up that’s just him showing himself up for what he really is. Personally I’m glad it got caught on live because I’ve always thought he was an arse.
 
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theghosttown said:
If Amber knows Ste has anger issues or is volatile why on earth would she go on a live in front of him. Surely that’s a like a red rag to a bull. Hardly thinking of her children when she’s lighting the fuse on that situation. Not excusing his behaviour but it seems pretty contrived and manipulative. He’s clearly not staying there all the time so do it at a time where he wasn’t there.
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Amber shouldn't have to manage certain things she chooses to do in her own home to prevent Ste from having aggressive outbursts, especially such every day normal things. It was a simple live and Amber was engaging with her fans. You're putting the blame on to Amber when it is Ste and only Ste who is responsible for the behaviour he chooses to do. Similarly if a woman is raped *some* people say "what was she wearing, maybe she provoked it". His behaviour is wholly inexcusable. We know what kind of man Ste is when he makes little comments such as "you didn't think of me when you decided to breast feed". He is self entitled and values himself over what's best for his son. (My professional background is working with victims of domestic violence, my opinion or view isn't just casual)
 
Sunnie.lass said:
Amber shouldn't have to manage certain things she chooses to do in her own home to prevent Ste from having aggressive outbursts, especially such every day normal things. It was a simple live and Amber was engaging with her fans. You're putting the blame on to Amber when it is Ste and only Ste who is responsible for the behaviour he chooses to do. Similarly if a woman is raped *some* people say "what was she wearing, maybe she provoked it". His behaviour is wholly inexcusable. We know what kind of man Ste is when he makes little comments such as "you didn't think of me when you decided to breast feed". He is self entitled and values himself over what's best for his son. (My professional background is working with victims of domestic violence, my opinion or view isn't just casual)
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I cannot believe you’re comparing my comment to victim shaming rape victims. That is hugely out of order and it implies I would take that stance. Just became you put *some* mean your comment isn’t personal to me.

Bitofthebubbly said:
She should be able to go live when ever she wants in her own house. She wasn’t saying anything about Ste and I don’t think it was contrived to wind him up that’s just him showing himself up for what he really is. Personally I’m glad it got caught on live because I’ve always thought he was an arse.
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My point is, if she knows he can behave this way on lives, which he has done before, she should avoid doing it when he is there. It is her house, yes but I just don’t agree with her doing it when she knows he is completely volatile. And as I made very clear, I don’t defend his behaviour - obviously. I’m making two separate points.
 
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theghosttown said:
I cannot believe you’re comparing my comment to victim shaming rape victims. That is hugely out of order and it implies I would take that stance. Just became you put *some* doesn’t make your comment personal to me.
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I think your original comment was very much victim blaming, the context shouldn't matter. Amber shouldn't have to not go live and chat to her fans because ste might kick off , ste needs to sort out his anger management issues. End of.
 
Georgethecat said:
I think your original comment was very much victim blaming, the context shouldn't matter. Amber shouldn't have to not go live and chat to her fans because ste might kick off , ste needs to sort out his anger management issues. End of.
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My comment wasn’t victim blaming. Im saying she should reserve it for when he is not there, to not inflame the situation. Or better still kick him out and report him to the police. I also made it clear (and everyone is choosing to ignore this) that’s it doesn’t excuse his behaviour at all. I’m not going to continue to derail the thread with this, particularly with what has just been thrown at me. I’ve reported and will move on.
 
theghosttown said:
I cannot believe you’re comparing my comment to victim shaming rape victims. That is hugely out of order and it implies I would take that stance. Just became you put *some* doesn’t make your comment personal to me.
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You said "Amber knows Ste has anger issues or is volatile why would she..." that statement is where you victim blamed. I'm not going to argue with you about it, I see it day in day out, women like Amber judged and these sorts of statements just thrown around. It's common ignorance. Women that suffer domestic violence are stripped of confidence and self esteem and believe they don't deserve any better and they will go back again and again there's also a number of other reasons. I will not derail the thread any further, what you said and what you meant was plain to see. I will not engage with you any further on this. Do some research about victims of domestic violence.

So sorry everyone, I hate thread derailing. I really couldn't bypass that, not with what I see every day.
 
theghosttown said:
If Amber knows Ste has anger issues or is volatile why on earth would she go on a live in front of him. Surely that’s a like a red rag to a bull. Hardly thinking of her children when she’s lighting the fuse on that situation. Not excusing his behaviour but it seems pretty contrived and manipulative. He’s clearly not staying there all the time so do it at a time where he wasn’t there.
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Victim blaming isn't a good look.
 
Sunnie.lass said:
You said "Amber knows Ste has anger issues or is volatile why would she..." that statement is where you victim blamed. I'm not going to argue with you about it, I see it day in day out, women like Amber judged and these sorts of statements just thrown around. It's common ignorance. Women that suffer domestic violence are stripped of confidence and self esteem and believe they don't deserve any better and they will go back again and again there's also a number of other reasons. I will not derail the thread any further, what you said and what you meant was plain to see. I will not engage with you any further on this. Do some research about victims of domestic violence.

So sorry everyone, I hate thread derailing. I really couldn't bypass that, not with what I see every day.
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I have been a victim of domestic violence and sexual assault. You don’t know anything about me - how bleeping dare you.
 
Did anyone see Jeremiah in his little car yesterday on Emma's Instagram story? He's so cute. It's nice that Nasseh bought him the car...but I'm pretty sure Jeremiah still hasn't got a buggy? Might have been more helpful to get Emma a buggy first, unless I've missed it?
 
I think we know Emma does have a pram 😂 I know it has become a running joke but didn’t someone even post a clip of her pushing the frame of her pram but with the car seat on top.
I’m assuming because she doesn’t drive she probably takes him in his car seat in the cab (so he’s strapped in safely) and then she only has to bring the frame .. would likely be impossible to get out of a cab and lug around a pram, car seat and the baby... does make sense just to click the car seat on the frame if you don’t drive... I know they say not to keep baby’s in the car seats long etc but he seems to be in her arms a lot anyway!

If she only brought a pram in a cab people would be pointing out he wasn’t in a car seat
 
Jennytea said:
I think we know Emma does have a pram 😂 I know it has become a running joke but didn’t someone even post a clip of her pushing the frame of her pram but with the car seat on top.
I’m assuming because she doesn’t drive she probably takes him in his car seat in the cab (so he’s strapped in safely) and then she only has to bring the frame .. would likely be impossible to get out of a cab and lug around a pram, car seat and the baby... does make sense just to click the car seat on the frame if you don’t drive... I know they say not to keep baby’s in the car seats long etc but he seems to be in her arms a lot anyway!

If she only brought a pram in a cab people would be pointing out he wasn’t in a car seat
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Fair point 🤣 I do wonder why she gets taxis a lot though it must be expensive, I've never been to Birmingham, is public transport not very accessible with a buggy? Is the public transport just a bit rubbish in general there?
 
Sunnie.lass said:
Fair point 🤣 I do wonder why she gets taxis a lot though it must be expensive, I've never been to Birmingham, is public transport not very accessible with a buggy? Is the public transport just a bit rubbish in general there?
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It’s probably for ease or maybe just in the scenes we’ve seen. I think there’s loads of trams where she is and they are bigger than buses and trains for a buggy. Amber and Ste used to get taxis frequently around Blackpool and they have a decent public transport system too
 
Sunnie.lass said:
Fair point 🤣 I do wonder why she gets taxis a lot though it must be expensive, I've never been to Birmingham, is public transport not very accessible with a buggy? Is the public transport just a bit rubbish in general there?
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I’ve got no idea tbf surely public transport would be good in Birmingham.. maybe she’s just one of those people who likes taxis or is lazy 🤷🏻‍♀️😂 ... I drive now but I remember when I was a teenager I would never get buses I would always pay loads out on taxis 1.because I hated buses 2.because I was lazy 😂
 
I reckon this will be the last season. Absolutely boring af now. What a bunch of drips

Cloudninex said:
Im glad someone said it 😂I’m not a fan of Emma.. & I agree there’s been nothing that shows that she’s this amazing mum more so then others from what Iv seen she’s just a normal everyday person who’s clearly head over heels for her baby daddy but try’s to play it cool
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She bores me to tears.
 
Bitofthebubbly said:
Maybe Emma gets taxis as it’s convenient for filming? Public transport with a young baby can be a handful at the best of times maybe getting taxi’s takes the pressure off a bit if she has to be somewhere to film at a certain time or something.

She does have a pushchair/pram we just don’t see it used much on the show.
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MTV might pay for the taxis? Cause I imagine the cameramen have to travel with her too.
 
A finger of fudge said:
MTV might pay for the taxis? Cause I imagine the cameramen have to travel with her too.
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Yeah it’s probably unlikely they get paid a great deal so it’ll be a small rate plus expenses. They probably cover the meals they have out, taxis, probably covered Chloe’s night out (accom etc). The meals o it will be pre planned by production largely.


I met Gemma Collins via work for example and there ass an infamous scene where mick was walking around a pool with a bottle of champagne and she got all excited but it was actually for another woman. The producers had told her that he would be bringing it out for her, so her reaction was totally real but it was essentially set up.

I reckon a lot of that happens on teen mom too
 
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