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Miss.Chanandler.Bong said:
Wouldn’t you after 2 or 3 weeks do your best to go elsewhere and give your friend a break? Like a hotel? Anything
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I don’t understand, given that her landlord is clearly a complete cowboy, and how hard it can be to get social housing why she hasn’t gone to the council? Yes they’d house them temporarily first, but ultimately they’d get a SAFE property with a much better standard of maintenance and upkeep
 
bigrednumber9 said:
No I totally agree with you here. Amber needs boundaries for the boys absolutely but there’s no way Beth should be treating Hudson like that. How are you disciplining a child by behaving exactly as he was, the only difference being that he’s a toddler that’s unable to regulate his emotions and Beth’s an adult that should know better.. not to mention he’s out of his home and completely out of any routine (yes I know there’s not much of one) but he’ll be finding that so difficult. I wholeheartedly believe those boys have additional needs of some kind. Amber is a class I’ve case of generational trauma being passed down, she needs to heal herself before it’s too late for her kids
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I dont think anyone should be grabbing a child and shouting that they're naughty in their face! Exactly, you can't tell a child off for doing something and then do exactly the same to discipline them.
Absolutely generational trauma, she really needs some proper support and intervention. I've been similar to her in the throes of a severe depressive episode, and would just sit and do nothing (my kids needs were always met). Difference was I already had boundaries in place and my children knew what was and wasn't acceptable!
 
Dollenganger said:
Extended dummy use IS often a sign of SEN though. People keep saying they don’t have ADHD but Ste has a diagnosis and ND conditions are more often than not passed on - one look at my family to know this.

I have children with ADHD and autism so I know this. But also, two of my girls with a dx were extended dummy users and neither was / is poorly behaved. In fact, they are placid. I think if they had been boys, maybe they wouldn’t be so easy.

I think that boys with ND conditions can be very hard work when young. ND Girls often present differently. My cousin has two boys (one is ND) and their mum suffered from quite severe depression when they were little and she had a husband! And they are both highly educated professionals.

So it’s easy to say Amber is lazy etc but we only get a snapshot of how things are. She is worn down because she is surrounded by selfish people who should be there for her but they aren’t. I would go crazy if I were in her shoes.
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It’s because it could potentially make Zenaya feel that she’s responsible for her mother’s feelings.
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That’s really judgmental - my children are very well behaved. And two of them had a dummy longer than I wanted.
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In fairness I never said in my post that Amber was lazy? I just pointed out that both boys seem to be difficult and badly behaved. Like you say, there could be underlining reasons for this, I didn't say there wasn't

I did mention the dummy, because at this stage nothings been confirmed with Hudson and I remember Brooklyn had a dummy in his month 24/7 and this was before they suspected autisim. Both of my kids had dummies so I'm not against them, I just personally try to limit them to sleeping rather than all the time. My comments were just an observation...
 
misslaurennightingale@yah said:
In fairness I never said in my post that Amber was lazy? I just pointed out that both boys seem to be difficult and badly behaved. Like you say, there could be underlining reasons for this, I didn't say there wasn't

I did mention the dummy, because at this stage nothings been confirmed with Hudson and I remember Brooklyn had a dummy in his month 24/7 and this was before they suspected autisim. Both of my kids had dummies so I'm not against them, I just personally try to limit them to sleeping rather than all the time. My comments were just an observation...
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Yeah, I mean obviously dummy use beyond 2 is not ideal, but I just meant that sometimes it’s very difficult to remove something that gives a child comfort when they have pressures on them from the world that NT children do not. I do think that it would be interesting to know how Hudson behaves at nursery and whether they have concerns about him. In every clip of him on the show, he’s screaming his head off and seems beyond any kind of reason.
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I think Beth is trying to help Amber the only way she knows how and ends up shouting at Hudson because he’s so uncontrollable. I think she will have known exactly how hard it would be having them to stay and shows how much she cares about them all tbh. Hopefully she will at least have been paid something by MTV because they’ve filmed inside her house.

But Amber’s rubbish family and deadbeat Ste make me so cross. Where is Amber’s own dad in all this? He seems to pop up when Amber is ok but is never there in the hard times.
 
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I think this is due to lack of knowledge but Amber could have really used this situation to her advantage.. if she’d have gone down the council route she’d have been housed (albeit not somewhere amazing) and then eventually she’d have ended up with a council home and probs would have had it by now. Could have been a fresh start for her and the kids in a place she could make her own, life long security if she wanted it. I doubt the council will house her now so when she’s saying she hopes she’s not there for long she’s probably going to end up in another private rent
 
I feel sorry for Amber . I know she doesn't help herself , but I think she is stuck in a depressed state and is so overwhelmed she ends up doing nothing. She seems to have had a lack of guidance from her mum as she seems to be selfish and have different blokes on the go. Her Dad seems more put together but doesn't seem to be around when she needs him and Ste just just seems like he does the bare minimum and likes to put her down . Given Ste's adhd diagnosis it would easily be likely that her boys have it . However , Amber's lack of routine will not help her kids . I agree with another poster who said she needs to up her meds or change them , and have some parenting courses, and learn to reach out for support from better places.
 
Amber posted yesterday that a lot of the scenes which showed her out and doing stuff and also the nice times with Beth didn’t make the final cut. Wonder if MTV are running with the narrative that she’s always alone and doesn’t have support and it’s always depressing for her and the kids. Not saying it’s justified what we’ve seen but would of been nice to see the good side to
 
lauren96111 said:
Amber posted yesterday that a lot of the scenes which showed her out and doing stuff and also the nice times with Beth didn’t make the final cut. Wonder if MTV are running with the narrative that she’s always alone and doesn’t have support and it’s always depressing for her and the kids. Not saying it’s justified what we’ve seen but would of been nice to see the good side to
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Yeah I saw that. She said she met with some girls for a hike, would’ve been nice to see that side of things but all they’ve shown is her coming across bad letting someone else parent her children
 
lauren96111 said:
Amber posted yesterday that a lot of the scenes which showed her out and doing stuff and also the nice times with Beth didn’t make the final cut. Wonder if MTV are running with the narrative that she’s always alone and doesn’t have support and it’s always depressing for her and the kids. Not saying it’s justified what we’ve seen but would of been nice to see the good side to
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I don’t know, when I saw that long post she did I felt like she contradicted herself a lot. Like saying she helped Beth with loads but then said at another point Beth wouldn’t let her help so it made no sense really. She also talked about the boys set routine in detail no mention of the beach then said on another post they go to the beach most nights 🤣 where’s that in this detailed routine then? I think her social media is just a show and she doesn’t like people seeing the reality of it. She also used a line about what a good mum she is and saying she’s strict and her kids have respect 🙃.. I just rolled my eyes because she seems overly defensive and in denial. Even amazing mums can admit some faults and have things they could improve on.

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Jennytea said:
I don’t know, when I saw that long post she did I felt like she contradicted herself a lot. Like saying she helped Beth with loads but then said at another point Beth wouldn’t let her help so it made no sense really. She also talked about the boys set routine in detail no mention of the beach then said on another post they go to the beach most nights 🤣 where’s that in this detailed routine then? I think her social media is just a show and she doesn’t like people seeing the reality of it. She also used a line about what a good mum she is and saying she’s strict and her kids have respect 🙃.. I just rolled my eyes because she seems overly defensive and in denial. Even amazing mums can admit some faults and have things they could improve on.

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Yeah the bit about helping but then not being allowed confused me, I meant it would of been nice to just see her out and not sat on the couch every day staring into space. I do think she’s watching back and probably feels like tit. If the way she is coming across is a true reflection you’d hope she’d be watching and it’ll hit home that she seriously needs to do something to improve all their lives
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stargirl23 said:
Yeah I saw that. She said she met with some girls for a hike, would’ve been nice to see that side of things but all they’ve shown is her coming across bad letting someone else parent her children
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Yeah this is what I meant like it would of been nice to see at least a little bit of her being out and not just a mum an arguing with Ste
 
lauren96111 said:
Yeah the bit about helping but then not being allowed confused me, I meant it would of been nice to just see her out and not sat on the couch every day staring into space. I do think she’s watching back and probably feels like tit. If the way she is coming across is a true reflection you’d hope she’d be watching and it’ll hit home that she seriously needs to do something to improve all their lives
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Yeah this is what I meant like it would of been nice to see at least a little bit of her being out and not just a mum an arguing with Ste
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Yeah I do agree with you! They’re clearly missing loads of parts out when editing that could be a bit more entertaining! If they have more content they could even make more episodes and let it go on a bit longer. Her life just doesn’t seem to change much at all does it. Let’s hope this has maybe gave her a kick up the ass and next season we will see something different 🙃😂
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Miss.Chanandler.Bong said:
I feel like Amber’s lied before because she doesn’t want to admit what we see is the truth.
She said while the last series was on that her and Ste have a good relationship and are good coparents when since series 1 we’ve never ever seen that
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Yeah it always happens before we see a new season, I always feel like we are going to see something different based on her social media and it’s always the same and never like what we see online.
 
made me laugh when amber said "i'm not in my usual routine i can't get stuff done" babe you don't work... brooklyn is at school 5 days a week and hudson at nursery, how do you not have time to 'do' whatever it is she has to do (duck all). You've got from 9-3 basically to sort your life out, find housing, help beth clean the mess your kids have caused. also why on earth did she put brooklyn and hudson to bed both with an ipad and headphones? my jaw seriously dropped, what a stupid thing to do. however ste is a total knobhead, i feel for the boys, what a thick set of parents.
 
icantbelieveitsnotbutter! said:
made me laugh when amber said "i'm not in my usual routine i can't get stuff done" babe you don't work... brooklyn is at school 5 days a week and hudson at nursery, how do you not have time to 'do' whatever it is she has to do (duck all). You've got from 9-3 basically to sort your life out, find housing, help beth clean the mess your kids have caused. also why on earth did she put brooklyn and hudson to bed both with an ipad and headphones? my jaw seriously dropped, what a stupid thing to do. however ste is a total knobhead, i feel for the boys, what a thick set of parents.
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She put them to bed eating sweets as well I'm sure. Brooklyn was definitely eating something
 
I think Amber seriously needs to do some parenting lessons. Her boys may be hard work, may have ADHD, but that doesn't have anything to do with how she is choosing to parent them and what she allows them to do. The boys go to bed with tablets to watch and bags of crisps to eat. WTF. That alone is absolutely crazy, before even getting on to the behaviour she doesn't seem to react to, the full babies bottle of milk and 24/7 dummy the 4 year old has, the state of the house and absolutely no routine.

I have a 3 and a 7 year old. 7yr old boy is ASD & ADHD. Both my kids have routine, boundaries, they know right from wrong and are well behaved. Yes, lots of kids like the dummy/bottle beyond the typical age when SEN is involved, but Amber's kids having them way longer than they should is just another thing to tick off the typical lazy parent list that she fits in with. My son was allowed a dummy till 3.5yrs, it helped him settle, but he also was read a story at bed time, cuddled and tucked in - not given a bloody screen and packet of Walkers!!

How is Hudson screaming "I hate you" at his age?! Why does he even know to say that?!

Amber does look depressed. But she has been this type of parent since the start, lazy. Has she had depression the entire time? maybe, who knows, but even if that was the case it shouldn't get in the way of knowing what good parenting is. I get that depression can make you detached and have no get up and go etc, I've had depression, but it didn't mean I suddenly became a tit Mum.
She needs a normal person or a qualified person to teach her how to do things better. She must have been brought up in this way too otherwise you would know it's not right/normal!
 
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