Southport Attacks and Aftermath #5

[pommynoir]

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[monga]

How many people can say there’s a political party that represents all their views? I’ve never come across one yet!

 

[HelloStereo]

How many people can say there’s a political party that represents all their views? I’ve never come across one yet!

You choose the party which best represents your views. If we had parties that catered to everyone's unique views we'd have millions, each with one vote.

 

[Haveyouanywool]

They tend to grasp true public opinion, the recent Irish one blew the leading working class party completely out of the water,much to th

What was the recent referendum about?

Who is asking for constant referendums?
We vote for a candidate on a range of issues that best fit our stance but we may not agree on all their policies.
A single issue referendum is obviously just that, and votes are cast irrespective of party divides and loyalties.
There is a place for referenda in a democracy. I’m saying that as someone who voted remain and for Scottish independence, obviously my opinion did not prevail, but you know, I sucked it up.

 

[monga]

You choose the party which best represents your views. If we had parties that catered to everyone's unique views we'd have millions, each with one vote.

That’s the reason I don’t use my vote none of them fully tick the box
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What was the recent referendum about?

Who is asking for constant referendums?
We vote for a candidate on a range of issues that best fit our stance but we may not agree on all their policies.
A single issue referendum is obviously just that, and votes are cast irrespective of party divides and loyalties.
There is a place for referenda in a democracy. I’m saying that as someone who voted remain and for Scottish independence, obviously my opinion did not prevail, but you know, I sucked it up.

Family and care, basically removing the word mother from the constitution and opening up a broader use of what family represents.

https://www.12ft.io/https://www.the...dum-modernise-ireland-constitution-women-home

 

[Haveyouanywool]

That’s the reason I don’t use my vote none of them fully tick the box
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Family and care, basically removing the word mother from the constitution and opening up a broader use of what family represents.

https://www.12ft.io/https://www.the...dum-modernise-ireland-constitution-women-home

Oh, that’s interesting. Maybe it seems more abstract and hair splitting than something that, on the face of it, has more direct consequences, like abortion rights and civil partnership rights, but then
None tick all my boxes, but I always vote.

 

[monga]

Oh, that’s interesting. Maybe it seems more abstract and hair splitting than something that, on the face of it, has more direct consequences, like abortion rights and civil partnership rights, but then
None tick all my boxes, but I always vote.

Yeah it turned out to be more far reaching when the law was applied…I’m sure many do choose to vote it’s not like every box will be ticked but given the falling footfall at the ballot box it’s clear people are becoming more disillusioned with political parties.

 

[PeteM]

That’s the reason I don’t use my vote none of them fully tick the box

Christ. You can't complain about who's in power then if you can't be arsed using your vote.

 

[monga]

Christ. You can't complain about who's in power then if you can't be arsed using your vote.

We don’t get to vote for Westminster candidates regardless if I used it or not.

 

[PeteM]

But surely you see the major flaw in your logic?

You vote for whoever and whatever is closest to what you believe.

Which of course says a lot about Reform Party voters.

 

[Haveyouanywool]

Yeah it turned out to be more far reaching when the law was applied…I’m sure many do choose to vote it’s not like every box will be ticked but given the falling footfall at the ballot box it’s clear people are becoming more disillusioned with political parties.

Or, as there is a greater distance from when votes were fought for (a very long and arduous process),people don’t attach as much value to a vote as they should.
In other words, it’s taken for granted.

 

[pommynoir]

But surely you see the major flaw in your logic?

You vote for whoever and whatever is closest to what you believe.

Which of course says a lot about Reform Party voters.

I think a lot of people probably agree with some of reforms policiesthe main listed below. Can’t see any that I am strongly against. Think what you want about me

• freeze non essential immigration
• Increase tax thresholds on small businesses
• Increase tax on multinational corps
• Scrap net zero
• Ban trans ideology in schools
• Tax relief on school fees
• Scrap HS2
• Raise stamp duty threshold
• Leave ECHR
• Scrap license fee

 

[HelloStereo]

I think a lot of people probably agree with some of reforms policies the main listed below. Can’t see any that I am strongly against. Think what you want about me

• freeze non essential immigration
• Increase tax thresholds on small businesses
• Increase tax on multinational corps
• Scrap net zero
• Ban trans ideology in schools
• Tax relief on school fees
• Scrap HS2
• Raise stamp duty threshold
• Leave EHCR
• Scrap license fee

Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

 

[monga]

Or, as there is a greater distance from when votes were fought for (a very long and arduous process),people don’t attach as much value to a vote as they should.
In other words, it’s taken for granted.

Maybe? Our particular situation is a bit different in that our votes were hard won and not that long ago but still footfall is dropping so I’d imagine it’s more than just taken for granted.
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But surely you see the major flaw in your logic?

You vote for whoever and whatever is closest to what you believe.

Which of course says a lot about Reform Party voters.

Which is none of them as they seem to spout the same tit .

 

[Haveyouanywool]

I think a lot of people probably agree with some of reforms policiesthe main listed below. Can’t see any that I am strongly against. Think what you want about me

• freeze non essential immigration
• Increase tax thresholds on small businesses
• Increase tax on multinational corps
• Scrap net zero
• Ban trans ideology in schools
• Tax relief on school fees
• Scrap HS2
• Raise stamp duty threshold
• Leave ECHR
• Scrap license fee

Not for me, but then people are free to vote for who they want.

 

[bluefoot]

I think a lot of people probably agree with some of reforms policiesthe main listed below. Can’t see any that I am strongly against. Think what you want about me

• freeze non essential immigration
• Increase tax thresholds on small businesses
• Increase tax on multinational corps
• Scrap net zero
• Ban trans ideology in schools
• Tax relief on school fees
• Scrap HS2
• Raise stamp duty threshold
• Leave ECHR
• Scrap license fee

I basically disagree with all these I’m pleased to see. What a dumbass bunch of policies. ‘Non essential immigration’ is a very unclear concept tbh
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We don’t get to vote for Westminster candidates regardless if I used it or not.

Is that because you are in a Sinn Fein area @monga does anyone else stand where you are who’s more agreeable and would take their seat?

 

[monga]

I basically disagree with all these I’m pleased to see. What a dumbass bunch of policies. ‘Non essential immigration’ is a very unclear concept tbh
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Is that because you are in a Sinn Fein area @monga does anyone else stand where you are who’s more agreeable and would take their seat?

No we’ve got a few different parties that choose to attend it’s the two main Westminster parties we don’t get a choice on.

 

[bluefoot]

I wonder if reform will stand in NI next election?

 

[monga]

I wonder if reform will stand in NI next election?

Reform have already merged with the TUV the Unionist vote will probably help their Westminster campaign.

 

[monga]

Anyway back to the people that will suffer for a lifetime