Sir Keir Starmer #2

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Ndrangheta said:
Must have gone to the John Prescott school of diplomacy. :ROFLMAO:
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At least Prescott - bovver-boy a-hole thug that he was - had once had a real job. Not like the self-serving pocket-lining, incompetent, arrogant twats we're stuck with now.

Some secretary or other once had a "fling" with him IIRC. All I can think is that you have to be fond of a treat to sh*g that! 🤮 Desperation doesn't enter the equation.
 
TheShire said:
Is it me or does it take a strange kind of person like Sir Keir to specialise in criminal defence work on human rights after graduating from Oxford?
Spending your time to try and find a get out clause for a child rapist or killer isn't what I find rewarding.
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Spending your time to try and find a get out clause for a child rapist or killer isn't what I find rewarding.

On the contrary - it's VERY rewarding. He's made a mint from it.
 
So people criticise MPs for not having jobs before running for Parliament and they also criticise MPs for what kinds of jobs they had before running for Parliament.

Maybe we should draw up a list of acceptable occupations MPs could have had before becoming an MP.

I don't understand why people think criminal defence lawyers try to get rapists and child killers off the hook. Surely their job is to ensure the proper application of the law, that their rights are upheld and they get a fair trial. So that people aren't just picked off the street, accused of a crime and incarcerated without trial. Something I'm sure we are all grateful for.
 
HelloStereo said:
So people criticise MPs for not having jobs before running for Parliament and they also criticise MPs for what kinds of jobs they had before running for Parliament.

Maybe we should draw up a list of acceptable occupations MPs could have had before becoming an MP.

I don't understand why people think criminal defence lawyers try to get rapists and child killers off the hook. Surely their job is to ensure the proper application of the law, that their rights are upheld and they get a fair trial. So that people aren't just picked off the street, accused of a crime and incarcerated without trial. Something I'm sure we are all grateful for.
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Maybe we should draw up a list of acceptable occupations MPs could have had before becoming an MP.

To a degree, that's a good idea.

There should certainly be a minimum age and amount of life experience for some professions - in this I would include MPs, but also eg social workers, psychotherapists eyc.

There should be no "straight out of university, into a cushy political researcher's post, then into a nice safe seat while protected by daddy and mammy's money" MPs. I'm not saying ALL MPs are corrupt/uncaring - but very few of them know what life is like at the sharp end - even at second-hand, because they don't know their constituencies.

They should have to have at least a year working in some grunt job with no other financial support - and if they have been in a nice well-paid profession prior to going into politics, they should have their families with them.

Let them spend 12 months in some mould-covered flat, living from week to week (or day to day) without enough money to buy their child a new pair of shoes, or even put a kit-kit into their lunch box. Let them struggle to juggle their finances to pay their heating and electric bill because their children are too cold to do their homework, and anyway, the leech has been cut off, so they can't do it in the dark anyway.

Vulnerable families are let down by govt after govt and it's a disgrace.
 
I don’t criticise Keir Starmer for not having worked and had experience that could qualify him for a Parliamentary role, he clearly has a history of work experience that involved a high level of study, understanding of law, people and resource management and ability to communicate with people who are laymen. I disagree with his politics, but not his suitability based purely on his background.

I do however criticise Angela Rayner’s lack of general work experience, lack of education and total lack of knowledge of the subject area she is tasked with leading on…having once bought a council house (possibly breaking the rules/law during the process) doesn’t qualify her to make decisions that will affect the housing market, landlords and housebuilders.

I do however, now have to disregard Kier’s working past completely, due to his own admission that anyone earning over £100k is not a ‘working person’. It appears he has been too successful and been in high paid roles for most of his career. So he’s never been a ‘working person’ at all.
 
Criminal defence work on human rights by their very nature have to work in the interests of the most disgusting humans to walk the earth.

Let's not pretend they're mostly working to save innocent people wrongly accused. They're working mainly to make sure the law is applied to criminals, and that often means tit like not deporting rapists.

And much is made of the Cab Rank Rule where they can't refuse work, so anyone working in the area has no choice but to regularly work in the interests of the biggest scum to walk the earth.
 
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