Siobhán O'Hagan #61 Good ol Shiv, loves a sperm donation, free Oven membership for half the nation!

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I was reading the recommended visitation with a dad in this situation if not exclusively bf and it should take place with the presence of the primary caregiver up until the baby is 12months old and then gradually increased alone time until overnights at 2yrs old. The fact these two have gone straight in with overnights and wkends at 3 months old baffles me, for love nor money I wouldn’t hand over my baby to let’s face it a virtual stranger overnight at 12 wks and I can’t see a judge enforcing that separation at this stage when it goes against the courts own expert recommendations. Does she have any motherly instinct?
Sure she was only delighted to get rid of the baby and go on the lash and have margs the first chance she got. It’s literally all she talked about through her whole pregnancy - which is a massive red flag. She hasn’t a maternal bone in her body. That child will have to rear itself. At least the baby has Darragh. Siobhan caught him hook line and sinker. He didn’t even see it coming. Siobh had a plan- to get a baby with any man who would donate his swimmers because she wanted a new challenge. Most people would run a marathon or take up a new hobby not have a baby with someone they barely know and then brag about how easy it is and how it’s just so great. She’s a few sandwiches short of a picnic. It’s the child I feel sorry for. Imagine when she’s old enough- imagine her googling her mother and finding out you were the result of a drunken shag and your Ma told the whole world about it in her blogs/blogs/Instagram and podcasts.
 
Sure she was only delighted to get rid of the baby and go on the lash and have margs the first chance she got. It’s literally all she talked about through her whole pregnancy - which is a massive red flag. She hasn’t a maternal bone in her body. That child will have to rear itself. At least the baby has Darragh. Siobhan caught him hook line and sinker. He didn’t even see it coming. Siobh had a plan- to get a baby with any man who would donate his swimmers because she wanted a new challenge. Most people would run a marathon or take up a new hobby not have a baby with someone they barely know and then brag about how easy it is and how it’s just so great. She’s a few sandwiches short of a picnic. It’s the child I feel sorry for. Imagine when she’s old enough- imagine her googling her mother and finding out you were the result of a drunken shag and your Ma told the whole world about it in her blogs/blogs/Instagram and podcasts.
I do wonder has she even thought about this. How will she explain all of that to her daughter. Let's face if it , that child will probably find out all of this information before she's 13. How will shiv handle seeing her daughter distraught? That's the inevitable outcome of her over sharing.
 
dads have every right to be in their child’s life and have the opportunity to bond and create their own “family”
that would be practically impossible with the archaic statement above. he isn’t a stranger, he is her dad. motherly instincts should also allow a person make decisions that are in the child’s best interests and supporting situations that allow dad be hands on will only benefit the child down the line.
At any point did I say the dad has no right to be in the child’s life??? I am speaking about overnight access where the child is away from the mother for such long periods of time at 12 weeks of age. It is the recommendations in the family law guidelines which I’m currently reading sitting my barrister exams so it’s not something I have plucked from thin air!! Also just because he is biologically her dad does not mean he is a good person or somebody who can be responsible for a 12week old baby’s complex needs alone, she hardly knows him she had a one night stand a year ago and for half her pregnancy lived in a different country so my point regarding that was speaking as a mother I would struggle to hand over my baby overnight and sleep soundly when the baby is so young. I obviously hit a nerve with my point but nowhere did I say a father does not have the right to be in a child’s life so get your facts straight before you jump down somebody’s throat!
 
At any point did I say the dad has no right to be in the child’s life??? I am speaking about overnight access where the child is away from the mother for such long periods of time at 12 weeks of age. It is the recommendations in the family law guidelines which I’m currently reading sitting my barrister exams so it’s not something I have plucked from thin air!! Also just because he is biologically her dad does not mean he is a good person or somebody who can be responsible for a 12week old baby’s complex needs alone, she hardly knows him she had a one night stand a year ago and for half her pregnancy lived in a different country so my point regarding that was speaking as a mother I would struggle to hand over my baby overnight and sleep soundly when the baby is so young. I obviously hit a nerve with my point but nowhere did I say a father does not have the right to be in a child’s life so get your facts straight before you jump down somebody’s throat!

I don't think anyone jumped down your throat. The above poster just didn't agree with you.
Fair enough if they are guidelines set down by the family court but personally I don't agree with them either.

"Also just because he is biologically her dad does not mean he is a good person or somebody who can be responsible for a 12week old baby’s complex needs alone, she hardly knows him she had a one night stand a year ago and for half her pregnancy lived in a different country"

And just re the above statement.... what makes you so sure that the mother can provide all of this either?
Just because she carried the child does not make her an automatic good parent.
It makes me sad that the law favours the mother so much.
If any of my sons or brothers were in Neds situation I would be fighting tooth and nail to help them have more access to their child.
 
And just re the above statement.... what makes you so sure that the mother can provide all of this either?
Just because she carried the child does not make her an automatic good parent.
It makes me sad that the law favours the mother so much.
If any of my sons or brothers were in Neds situation I would be fighting tooth and nail to help them have more access to their child.
Love this - so true 🙌🏻
 
At any point did I say the dad has no right to be in the child’s life??? I am speaking about overnight access where the child is away from the mother for such long periods of time at 12 weeks of age. It is the recommendations in the family law guidelines which I’m currently reading sitting my barrister exams so it’s not something I have plucked from thin air!! Also just because he is biologically her dad does not mean he is a good person or somebody who can be responsible for a 12week old baby’s complex needs alone, she hardly knows him she had a one night stand a year ago and for half her pregnancy lived in a different country so my point regarding that was speaking as a mother I would struggle to hand over my baby overnight and sleep soundly when the baby is so young. I obviously hit a nerve with my point but nowhere did I say a father does not have the right to be in a child’s life so get your facts straight before you jump down somebody’s throat!


Give it up, you referred to Ned as a "stranger" when all the evidence ("your honour", seeing as you're a barrister) is that he's a doting Dad only dying to be an active presence in his daughter's life.

Meanwhile, this precious mother she's being so cruelly ripped away from (apparently) spends hours on her phone and has a disordered relationship with alcohol.

All of us are sitting here making up shite about this family based on snippets on Shivs insta. But Ned, is categorically not a stranger, he's the child's father.
 
Has she tried to block out a reflection in the window to the right of cutlery (White lines)
Gotta admit I love the print in the frame behind the baby.
 

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I was reading the recommended visitation with a dad in this situation if not exclusively bf and it should take place with the presence of the primary caregiver up until the baby is 12months old and then gradually increased alone time until overnights at 2yrs old. The fact these two have gone straight in with overnights and wkends at 3 months old baffles me, for love nor money I wouldn’t hand over my baby to let’s face it a virtual stranger overnight at 12 wks and I can’t see a judge enforcing that separation at this stage when it goes against the courts own expert recommendations. Does she have any motherly instinct?

Shiv clearly doesn’t regard him as a virtual stranger considering she was desperate to be seen as a ‘we’ and happily let people believe they were a couple for her entire pregnancy. He was an unwitting sperm donor and yes, he was an idiot for not bagging up if he didn’t want to be in this situation but he’s obviously made it clear from the start that he wants to be involved. He was there for the entire pregnancy, he was at the birth, she said herself that he was there most days post-birth, and from everything we’ve seen so far he dotes on his daughter. Fair enough you’re quoting an aspect of the law but he’s hardly a virtual stranger. As a previous poster has said, just because the mother births the baby doesn’t automatically make them the more responsible or better caregiver.
 
Ned could have ran away and been a bollix like many blokes. And especially with this headcase and how she announced it and her podcast rounds and her general manic behaviour EVERY bleeping DAY.

He is owning it and stepping up for Cadhla and Cadhla only. Doing what a father should do. That's the reality.

There's enough slimey cunts in the world that would deny all existence.
 
Sure she was only delighted to get rid of the baby and go on the lash and have margs the first chance she got. It’s literally all she talked about through her whole pregnancy - which is a massive red flag. She hasn’t a maternal bone in her body. That child will have to rear itself. At least the baby has Darragh. Siobhan caught him hook line and sinker. He didn’t even see it coming. Siobh had a plan- to get a baby with any man who would donate his swimmers because she wanted a new challenge. Most people would run a marathon or take up a new hobby not have a baby with someone they barely know and then brag about how easy it is and how it’s just so great. She’s a few sandwiches short of a picnic. It’s the child I feel sorry for. Imagine when she’s old enough- imagine her googling her mother and finding out you were the result of a drunken shag and your Ma told the whole world about it in her blogs/blogs/Instagram and podcasts.

This is the problem, Shiv isn’t like other mere mortals. I think that to some degree, the 50/50 parenting suits her. She can be the best mother to walk the planet, and then balance it with living her best sesh / punishment workout life.

I’m actually not sure she’d be able to keep up the perfect baby / parent facade if she had Cadhla full time. Being a new parent can be such a rollercoaster, even in the most idyllic familial setup, that I think she might crack under the pressure.
 
At any point did I say the dad has no right to be in the child’s life??? I am speaking about overnight access where the child is away from the mother for such long periods of time at 12 weeks of age. It is the recommendations in the family law guidelines which I’m currently reading sitting my barrister exams so it’s not something I have plucked from thin air!! Also just because he is biologically her dad does not mean he is a good person or somebody who can be responsible for a 12week old baby’s complex needs alone, she hardly knows him she had a one night stand a year ago and for half her pregnancy lived in a different country so my point regarding that was speaking as a mother I would struggle to hand over my baby overnight and sleep soundly when the baby is so young. I obviously hit a nerve with my point but nowhere did I say a father does not have the right to be in a child’s life so get your facts straight before you jump down somebody’s throat!
christ calm yourself 🤣 no one jumped down your throat i simply pointed out the statement is archaic and it’s an impossible situation to have. i stand over that. it’s beyond ridiculous especially considering lost of babies are in some form of childcare from 6 months. times have moved on (not enough in many way)
this suits siobhan no doubt but also as a society we should have pushing these old fashioned narratives out.
 
I’ve now listened to a few other episodes of the Everymums podcast and the other guests are very vulnerable and real. Discussing the anxiety, the new relationship dynamics, the loss of self, the birth and hospital/midwife experiences. I’ve enjoyed listening because I can identify those feelings too. Siobhan’s episode was awful and when she didn’t want to actually answer honestly she just gives a shoulder shrug answer like I don’t know. 🤷‍♀️

The past few days there has been inconsistency in her posts, maybe it’s an immaturity thing to pretend everything is great.
 
I’ve now listened to a few other episodes of the Everymums podcast and the other guests are very vulnerable and real. Discussing the anxiety, the new relationship dynamics, the loss of self, the birth and hospital/midwife experiences. I’ve enjoyed listening because I can identify those feelings too. Siobhan’s episode was awful and when she didn’t want to actually answer honestly she just gives a shoulder shrug answer like I don’t know. 🤷‍♀️

The past few days there has been inconsistency in her posts, maybe it’s an immaturity thing to pretend everything is great.


Maybe it is going to court and she is terrified to say its hard incase he uses it against her. Parenting is so rewarding but it is hard at times.
 
Ah, we’re not back to using personal experiences with crappy men to insult our lord and saviour Neddy boy….and on the anniversary of one of the greatest night out in Dublin in years!!! For shame 🥺

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It’s not Christmas until we’ve seen a photo of Shiv with drink in hand, wearing all black plus the obligatory pleather mini skirt and making a comment along the lines of “nowhere else I’d rather be 🥹” The festive season has officially begun, Tattlers.
After tonight’s piss up, stand by for the “I can’t wait until January for some routine 😅
 
Her post this today about having a baby being so much better than all her memories is 1000000% aimed at Beg who’s currently loved up in Fiji with her boyfriend 😂 it’s also sooo on point for Slob.. “even though I was saying I was so happy then, I’m so much happier now”. Next year she’ll be so much happier than this year, rinse repeat. She is such a joke!
 
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