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Peoniesandballetshoes said:
Amanda storyline.
your ex husbands leaves and you have no idea where he is but later say I didn’t go to child support because I’m nice but I was so poor.
she says in season 3 after the dubious claim of not receiving the letter from ex giving up parental rights to her (if your named you would receive notification surely) that she is still struggling paying bill to bill and sleeping on the couch when wearing a Chanel necklace!
talk about fake storyline


also the girls gang up on Christine to discuss them wanting a apologise:
Chris hell you and her don’t get on get over it,
Mary and Amanda dislike her because your friends with Chris hell, no other reason
Emma, you had a chat with her agreed points, agreed to move forward, do so, no change your mind afterwards
Heather, Christine is correct, you and your boyfriend hire paparazzi your not that famous, get over someone richer calling you out, idiot.
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JusteUnClou said:
Tan stating that he thought Davina would be a "dirty birdy"... that was gold. I thought the same.
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I’m with Davina though and thought it was a weird and slightly homophobic* comment from Tan.

Davina said she IS a dirty birdy, she’s just heterosexual.

*homophobic because it somewhat fetishises same sex sexual experiences. The idea that having sex or kissing a same sex partner is somehow more sexually adventurous, ‘dirty’, perverted or kinky is an odd thought for an out gay man, no? The gay & lesbian community have been fighting this idea for decades.
 
GossipMongoose said:
I’m with Davina though and thought it was a weird and slightly homophobic* comment from Tan.

Davina said she IS a dirty birdy, she’s just heterosexual.

*homophobic because it somewhat fetishises same sex sexual experiences. The idea that having sex or kissing a same sex partner is somehow more sexually adventurous, ‘dirty’, perverted or kinky is an odd thought for an out gay man, no? The gay & lesbian community have been fighting this idea for decades.
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Isn’t tan France gay though? I suppose doesn’t stop him being a homophobe but still.
He said dirty gertie not dirty birdy
 
sailorcherries said:
Chrishell might be thirsty but there are still people who cannot accept that someone might have a child in a same sex couple and people who are purposely using the wrong pronouns.
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I have no problem with any pronoun, he/she/whatever. However I can understand the perhaps frustration that people have as so many people now use this.
just because someone "identifies" or "sees/feels" themselves to be something does not mean that others have to "see/feel" the same way. It is up to everyone themselves to chose. No one has the right to demand they be called/seen a particular way. I get this example is far fetched but when you have someone who says they are gender fluid-ie wake up Monday and feel they are a woman, wake up Wednesday and identify a man, well what is to stop someone else sating well today is Friday and I identify as a cat!! Do we have to call them a cat? I know, it's far fetched but we have seen people marry ghosts, trains, museums etc so nothing these days is to be unexpected. And so therefore with the reasoning that "I identify as...means that we must refer to them as that, then weust also respect their wishes and refer to someone as a cat if they so wish.
You get me? Just because 1 person feels a certain way does not give them an unquestioning right to demand everyone feel that way about them. They can ask, but that is it.
 
Tippytwinkletoes said:
I have no problem with any pronoun, he/she/whatever. However I can understand the perhaps frustration that people have as so many people now use this.
just because someone "identifies" or "sees/feels" themselves to be something does not mean that others have to "see/feel" the same way. It is up to everyone themselves to chose. No one has the right to demand they be called/seen a particular way. I get this example is far fetched but when you have someone who says they are gender fluid-ie wake up Monday and feel they are a woman, wake up Wednesday and identify a man, well what is to stop someone else sating well today is Friday and I identify as a cat!! Do we have to call them a cat? I know, it's far fetched but we have seen people marry ghosts, trains, museums etc so nothing these days is to be unexpected. And so therefore with the reasoning that "I identify as...means that we must refer to them as that, then weust also respect their wishes and refer to someone as a cat if they so wish.
You get me? Just because 1 person feels a certain way does not give them an unquestioning right to demand everyone feel that way about them. They can ask, but that is it.
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Well said.
 
Tippytwinkletoes said:
I have no problem with any pronoun, he/she/whatever. However I can understand the perhaps frustration that people have as so many people now use this.
just because someone "identifies" or "sees/feels" themselves to be something does not mean that others have to "see/feel" the same way. It is up to everyone themselves to chose. No one has the right to demand they be called/seen a particular way. I get this example is far fetched but when you have someone who says they are gender fluid-ie wake up Monday and feel they are a woman, wake up Wednesday and identify a man, well what is to stop someone else sating well today is Friday and I identify as a cat!! Do we have to call them a cat? I know, it's far fetched but we have seen people marry ghosts, trains, museums etc so nothing these days is to be unexpected. And so therefore with the reasoning that "I identify as...means that we must refer to them as that, then weust also respect their wishes and refer to someone as a cat if they so wish.
You get me? Just because 1 person feels a certain way does not give them an unquestioning right to demand everyone feel that way about them. They can ask, but that is it.
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gender (not sex) is a social construct and people not identifying with the ideas we have of women and men is different from people identifying as cats and marrying trains (?). but at the core you can call people whatever you like, it's just not necessarily nice and respectful to ignore their wishes
 
Tippytwinkletoes said:
I have no problem with any pronoun, he/she/whatever. However I can understand the perhaps frustration that people have as so many people now use this.
just because someone "identifies" or "sees/feels" themselves to be something does not mean that others have to "see/feel" the same way. It is up to everyone themselves to chose. No one has the right to demand they be called/seen a particular way. I get this example is far fetched but when you have someone who says they are gender fluid-ie wake up Monday and feel they are a woman, wake up Wednesday and identify a man, well what is to stop someone else sating well today is Friday and I identify as a cat!! Do we have to call them a cat? I know, it's far fetched but we have seen people marry ghosts, trains, museums etc so nothing these days is to be unexpected. And so therefore with the reasoning that "I identify as...means that we must refer to them as that, then weust also respect their wishes and refer to someone as a cat if they so wish.
You get me? Just because 1 person feels a certain way does not give them an unquestioning right to demand everyone feel that way about them. They can ask, but that is it.
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No I don't "get you,".

If someone tells you they identify as non-binary and they preferred to be referred to as "they/them" then I would use those pronouns out of respect.
If someone is non-binary and says they have a preference for "he/him," although they'd accept "she/her, they/them," I would call them he/him regardless of how they present. For example Jonathan Van Ness is non-binary and prefers he/him regardless of how he presents, and out of respect he should be identified as such.

If you, or anyone else, has an issue with using the correct pronoun for someone because "you don't see them as that," based on a societal construct of what masculine and feminine look like, then that is very much a you issue. They aren't demanding that anyone view them as such but that they are referred to in the proper way. That's just basic respect for other's.

It is in no way similar to someone "marrying a train or identifying as a cat," which is the example many people give and only shows their ignorance.

People are demonstrating their blatant disregard for the lgbtq+ community in doing what you have.
 
sailorcherries said:
No I don't "get you,".

If someone tells you they identify as non-binary and they preferred to be referred to as "they/them" then I would use those pronouns out of respect.
If someone is non-binary and says they have a preference for "he/him," although they'd accept "she/her, they/them," I would call them he/him regardless of how they present. For example Jonathan Van Ness is non-binary and prefers he/him regardless of how he presents, and out of respect he should be identified as such.

If you, or anyone else, has an issue with using the correct pronoun for someone because "you don't see them as that," based on a societal construct of what masculine and feminine look like, then that is very much a you issue. They aren't demanding that anyone view them as such but that they are referred to in the proper way. That's just basic respect for other's.

It is in no way similar to someone "marrying a train or identifying as a cat," which is the example many people give and only shows their ignorance.

People are demonstrating their blatant disregard for the lgbtq+ community in doing what you have.
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Ah here get off your high horse. I already said I have no issue with any of it and personally will call/refer to anyone however they wish. However I can also understand people who don't feel they should. It is their choice-that is a right. It is not to say they will be rude etc to anyone, just their choice.
But there are 2 sides to everything. And a lot of people will relate binary, non binary pronouns etc with people who are born and still have all the attributes as one gender yet decide on a daily/weekly basis they identify as another and so use the same facilities as a younger person/child of the opposite gender.
We seem it happening in schools now where there are intergender toilets and there have been issues and concerns raised but the rights of those concerned are deemed not as important as being seen to be politically correct and inclusive.
And it is at the end of the day nothing to do with what masculine or feminine looks like. I will call anyone whatever they wish. However am i comfortable being in the same bathroom alone with a man who identifies as her/she? No. Am I comfortable with my niece or nephew being in a similar situation? No. So that is what I was saying -with a lot of people it is not necessarily a problem referring to anyone how they wish it is everything else that comes along with that.
And I'm sorry it is no different than someone saying they identify as anything else. Some people say they wish to be referred directly as it. Well it refers to an object at the end of the day.
I'm not sure if you are or have been directly affected by these issues but you are extremely defensive and we are all entitled to opinions and discussions. No one persons view or opinion overrides anyone else's that is the gift that free speech gives us.

Yel said:
Can we draw a line on this stuff on this thread, it's better on a thread in offtopic if people want to continue discussing it so this thread isn't ruined. Thanks
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Apologies only saw this after my last comment. Back to normality again
 
Traveler001 said:
Anyone know when OC starts? Also is it confirmed or not that there will be another season of SS?
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I don't think I'll be watching it. It's gonna be full of drama like Selling Tampa. If y'all want actual house porn + more sensible and mature adult real estate agents, check out Luxe Listings Sydney. I just finished watching both seasons (it's on Amazon Prime) and there's not much drama (there is, just a little but the agents are more sensible about it) and there is so much house porn! Plus the agents aren't going about in tacky designer wear, crazy high platforms or heels. You even learn a lot of Sydney luxury real estate.
Season 3 of the show will be out much later this year apparently. There's even rumours they might add a US or European version.

I also liked The Parisian Agency on Netflix. Much more saner, sensible adults on there.

Here's my two cents, I know I will get a lot of hate for this but Christine was the star of the show. Chrishell thinks she is but she isn't. The show isn't going to do well without her. I think Selling Sunset is trying to bank on the drama of Selling OC to succeed in that 'Selling franchise' but drama can only take you so far.

I think US reality TV shows are so juvenile in terms of showing more substance. Look at Masterchef USA vs Masterchef Australia. The latter does it better with less swear words, anger and more patience, more nurturing towards contestants.

I am just sick of Selling Sunset at this point :/ I don't think Chrishell will last with G-Flip. I am giving that 6 months and that's me being generous.
 
Speaking of Chrishell's ex, I just tuned into Senior Year on Netflix.

Absolutely, Christine was the star of the show. I don't think she's gonna be famous for anything else, like she won't hit her level of fame this show has given her. Whether you liked or hated her, she's the driving force of the reality show. Obvs, I'm a fan, I think she's witty and charismatic, she gives the best one-liners. She's just a compelling person to watch on screen. I don't know if I'd actually be friends with her onscreen persona (although from her Graham Stephan interviews, I like her a lot more), but she's the reason I kept watching. Botox and burgers party? Yeah, I'm never gonna forget that. Do I think Selling Sunset is over? Yes. I don't think it should've even gone further than season 3.

I genuinely forgot Selling Tampa was a thing, I most likely wouldn't watch Selling OC.
 
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