Sali Hughes #9 I put myself online and people had opinions

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Tesla's Ghost said:
SH is entirely unrelated. I think I can guess the products (hint: sticks).
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Yes, it's that old favourite, the track that really made her name and saw her break through to the mainstream, it's Sali Hughes with "Sticks, sticks, sticks"

Tesla's Ghost said:
Did he then change his name to Estelle Costanza?
George is getting upset!
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Yes, he did. Further compounding his bastardness by associating himself with George's innocent mom.
 
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And yet J Niven appears to have better feminist instincts than Moran.

Too Much said:
Can you explain what was gross about CM and the Sherlock fanfic? I'm maybe missing the point...
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I remember the furore at the time but don't know much about fanfic. I think it was Moran ridiculing it for a cheap laugh. There's a piece here by Brooke Magneti (which I admit to having only skimmed)
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Sherlock, Benedict Cumberbatch and fanfic: don't mess with these women (and men)

Fan fiction is one of the oldest traditions of the internet. Dr Brooke Magnanti explains why so many women love it and what went wrong when Benedict Cumberbatch was forced to awkwardly read aloud some Sherlock fanfic this weekend
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Too Much said:
Can you explain what was gross about CM and the Sherlock fanfic? I'm maybe missing the point...
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There is a clear divide between the fandom and the cast. What happens in fandom stays in fandom. You do not present the actors with fanfiction. Especially not with explicit fic. And certainly not in front of hundreds of people. Neither the fic author, nor the actors nor the audience consented to this. CM presented the actors with a text to read in front of an audience of hundreds of people. They couldn't really say no without looking like assholes. It was the most uncomfortable audience moment I've ever experienced. That event was celebrating the return of Sherlock after his fall off the roof after years of waiting for the solution. CM crossed a massive line that day.
 
SteppieMcStepface said:
There is a clear divide between the fandom and the cast. What happens in fandom stays in fandom. You do not present the actors with fanfiction. Especially not with explicit fic. And certainly not in front of hundreds of people. Neither the fic author, nor the actors nor the audience consented to this. CM presented the actors with a text to read in front of an audience of hundreds of people. They couldn't really say no without looking like assholes. It was the most uncomfortable audience moment I've ever experienced. That event was celebrating the return of Sherlock after his fall off the roof after years of waiting for the solution. CM crossed a massive line that day.
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Oh that is interesting - I'm not very familiar with fanfiction so thanks for making it clear what the issue was. Were you there?
It sounds like she went for a cheap easy laugh without understanding/caring what was involved.
I don't really understand why when you have the two main actors in front of you and a cracking storyline to discuss, you choose to go down that route anyway.
 
Mselvista said:
And yet J Niven appears to have better feminist instincts than Moran.
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I'm no fan of CM - I rarely find her writing funny or insightful - but I'm always impressed when a person admits they've made a mistake.

I think that may be the upside of the preternatural self-confidence she exhibits. If you have such self-belief you can acknowledge you got something wrong without feeling destroyed by it.
 
@Aude yes, that's true and is a laudable thing. I just found it quite shocking that her initial response to such a violation was that it was all a bit of a laugh.
Have just remembered Moran's tweet when Reeva Steenkamp was killed by Pistorius. She deleted and apologised but it's that her 1st instinct was to go for the cheap laugh when a woman had died.
 

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Mselvista said:
@Aude yes, that's true and is a laudable thing. I just found it quite shocking that her initial response to such a violation was that it was all a bit of a laugh.
Have just remembered Moran's tweet when Reeva Steenkamp was killed by Pistorius. She deleted and apologised but it's that her 1st instinct was to go for the cheap laugh when a woman had died.
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Good grief. These people have such a weird, self-absorbed need to “win” twitter that it overrides all decency and compassion.

Jelly Bean said:
Has SH ever mentioned Lisa Eldridge's lipstick range? :unsure: Her new ones have just been released. Only heard good things about them. Doesn't it seem quite an odd omission?
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You can really hear it when she is hitting her foundation into her face with her fingers in that latest ‘can’t live without’ BB video. The way she buffs in would mess up any SPF surely? (One derm said they recommend a beautyblender to not mess up the suncream layer)

May be too awkward for Sali to mention the Prince Andrew / Epstein saga given how she so often referred to her teenage self as ‘jailbait’.

I read her current article on perfume (this months vogue). She rechurned out the husband meeting over Philosykos and how impressed she was that he knew the scent had been designed by a woman… really he knew that off the top of his head?
She went on to celebrate female perfumers who weren’t from Grasse (part of France famous for perfumery, and for perfume training) and how we shouldn’t give so much weight to ‘noses’ from Grasse. However in her Beauty Pie [ad?] for their fragrance launch she highlighted that the (male) perfumer who designed the scents was from Grasse (in a way to give credibility to the perfumes from the new brand). The problem isn’t the perfumery industry, the problem is people like Sali who reinforce the industry biases when it suits them.
 
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