Real Life Crime & Murder #26

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Just to continue on with the phone debate, they may need to sort out accommodation or get their benefits started/sorted so they need a phone for that. I think universal credit is done online mostly and if they don't communicate then they get sanctioned. You can buy a phone for £50 if that and a £10 top up would get you loads of minutes etc.
 
LouBug19 said:
Just to continue on with the phone debate, they may need to sort out accommodation or get their benefits started/sorted so they need a phone for that. I think universal credit is done online mostly and if they don't communicate then they get sanctioned. You can buy a phone for £50 if that and a £10 top up would get you loads of minutes etc.
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Also a lot of people on benefits haven’t always been on benefits, they may have fallen on hard times - been made redundant or had to leave their job for whatever reason. So they would still have a phone - who doesn’t in 2024?
 
Tbh I will admit that I have judged people for having phones when they've been claiming they don't have money to feed their kids etc (some people I went to school with) but now I've read these comments I actually feel bad for judging! I didn't really consider how necessary phones were before for forms and applying for things etc
 
Just to add yo the homeless people / phones debate. I’ve worked with a lot of people who are homeless / sofa surfing and in the criminal justice system. They do often have phones but lose them constantly. Some have smart phones but most have basic burner type phones that do not allow them to access internet. They often if they do have smart phones don’t have anywhere to access WiFi or credit to allow them to access the internet. Housing services and such re benefits make life very hard for these people by insisting everything be done online. I’ve had many a dispute with a housing agency / council re them sending someone with a Nokia 3310 links to Rightmove to look at private rents that they might be able to get a bond for … 🤦🏻‍♀️ obviously when they come to see me I help them access the internet to complete forms etc, and have often logged in to bid on council properties on someone’s behalf. But obviously I’m only seeing them maybe once a week or even a fortnight. So delays set them back massively. Our society and communities don’t cater for anyone in really difficult circs and they are excluded from society due to this
 
Re the Natalie Shotter trial. This is why I could never be a defence lawyer. They really are a different breed. Imagine your day's work being trying to get the lowest possible sentence for a disgusting piece of tit like that. I know someone's got to do it, and it's a paid job, but I really have to question the morality of the people who take these cases.
 
Sharing for anyone interested in these trials and likes podcasts.

The Mail podcast are covering the Martin Blake/Chris Kaba trial. There is one episode covering the opening statements last week.


They are also going to be covering the Daniel Khalife trial which starts tomorrow in Woolwich Crown court. I’m very intrigued by that one!!

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Tofino said:
Sharing for anyone interested in these trials and likes podcasts.

The Mail podcast are covering the Martin Blake/Chris Kaba trial. There is one episode covering the opening statements last week.


They are also going to be covering the Daniel Khalife trial which starts tomorrow in Woolwich Crown court. I’m very intrigued by that one!!

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Unrelated to this but is the a Mail podcast for the P Diddy case?
 
Lars Guinard said:
Thank you, I saw it pop up somewhere and then could not remember until your post.

I don't know how long the Diddy trial will be or even when with the multiple witnesses and evidence.
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I wonder if it will be televised? I’m guessing that varies by state and not sure what other criteria is used to decide on what’s televised. Maybe not actually, with the nature of the crimes.
 
Cammiebrett said:
Tbh I will admit that I have judged people for having phones when they've been claiming they don't have money to feed their kids etc (some people I went to school with) but now I've read these comments I actually feel bad for judging! I didn't really consider how necessary phones were before for forms and applying for things etc
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Especially with kids as well, so much school comms is online now and stuff like parentpay is all online. There are ways around it, the comms is fairly easy (print letters) but getting around parentpay is a pain in the arse for all involved - and most schools don’t advertise you can get round it, they communicate it as “You have to use parentpay”. Even the NHS stuff is increasingly switching to online, it’s often much easier to request a repeat prescription online or book appointments for things like baby jabs.

People criticise but I think they need to look at it rationally and think how many systems they use, especially around schools and their kids, that are online only.

If a parent has the latest iPhone or Samsung every year while being on the bones of their arse the whole time, clearly choices are being made but having a mid range or older model that’s replaced or fixed quickly if it does get broken/stolen is just necessity.
 
bubbadabut said:
Re the Natalie Shotter trial. This is why I could never be a defence lawyer. They really are a different breed. Imagine your day's work being trying to get the lowest possible sentence for a disgusting piece of tit like that. I know someone's got to do it, and it's a paid job, but I really have to question the morality of the people who take these cases.
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I look at it this way - if they don't do a good job and thoroughly defend their client then that person has good reason to appeal and may well end up walking free. So even if it's very obvious to all and sundry that the client is a scumbag who is 100% guilty the defence has to follow the letter of the law to ensure justice is done.
Hope this makes sense!
 
Tofino said:
Sharing for anyone interested in these trials and likes podcasts.

The Mail podcast are covering the Martin Blake/Chris Kaba trial. There is one episode covering the opening statements last week.


They are also going to be covering the Daniel Khalife trial which starts tomorrow in Woolwich Crown court. I’m very intrigued by that one!!

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I must admit to having had a chuckle when Daniel Khalife pleaded not guilty to absconding from prison. I'm not sure that there are many clearer cut cases than this. :D
 
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