Real Life Crime and Murder #20

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I’m really intrigued by the murderous primary school teacher case - in particular, what their relationship was like and the factors that led to this.

I saw an interview with his mum, where she referred to him as a ‘cheeky boy…you know how boys are’ or something like that. Well, he was a man, not a boy. And I think ‘cheeky’ can be used as a more palatable term to describe all kinds of problematic behaviour. From that short snippet, I guessed that his mum probably coddled him, let him do as he pleased, never held him accountable for his actions and put him on a pedestal. He was probably looking for another version of his mum in his partner and was disappointed to find out that she wasn’t quite as forgiving as his mum.

The teacher’s actions clearly tormented her for her to develop mental health problems and write it all down to purge herself of it. But that doesn’t excuse her actions either.
 
I’m really intrigued by the murderous primary school teacher case - in particular, what their relationship was like and the factors that led to this.

I saw an interview with his mum, where she referred to him as a ‘cheeky boy…you know how boys are’ or something like that. Well, he was a man, not a boy. And I think ‘cheeky’ can be used as a more palatable term to describe all kinds of problematic behaviour. From that short snippet, I guessed that his mum probably coddled him, let him do as he pleased, never held him accountable for his actions and put him on a pedestal. He was probably looking for another version of his mum in his partner and was disappointed to find out that she wasn’t quite as forgiving as his mum.

The teacher’s actions clearly tormented her for her to develop mental health problems and write it all down to purge herself of it. But that doesn’t excuse her actions either.
was it an abusive relationship? I haven't read too much into it
 
I’m really intrigued by the murderous primary school teacher case - in particular, what their relationship was like and the factors that led to this.

I saw an interview with his mum, where she referred to him as a ‘cheeky boy…you know how boys are’ or something like that. Well, he was a man, not a boy. And I think ‘cheeky’ can be used as a more palatable term to describe all kinds of problematic behaviour. From that short snippet, I guessed that his mum probably coddled him, let him do as he pleased, never held him accountable for his actions and put him on a pedestal. He was probably looking for another version of his mum in his partner and was disappointed to find out that she wasn’t quite as forgiving as his mum.

The teacher’s actions clearly tormented her for her to develop mental health problems and write it all down to purge herself of it. But that doesn’t excuse her actions either.
I’ve been interested too. He certainly doesn’t come across well from what I’ve read, but yes not an excuse for killing him!

There are quite a few articles from the first trial with more info, such as that he had left Fiona for another woman but then went back to Fiona when the other woman was pregnant and refused to see his son:

This one is about him being abusive and obsessive about cleaning, although I would take it more with a pinch of salt as it’s from what Fiona said:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-northamptonshire-65428458

This one is about her family’s perspective, saying he had gambling debt and had ruined a Christmas:
 
I’ve been interested too. He certainly doesn’t come across well from what I’ve read, but yes not an excuse for killing him!

There are quite a few articles from the first trial with more info, such as that he had left Fiona for another woman but then went back to Fiona when the other woman was pregnant and refused to see his son:

This one is about him being abusive and obsessive about cleaning, although I would take it more with a pinch of salt as it’s from what Fiona said:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-northamptonshire-65428458

This one is about her family’s perspective, saying he had gambling debt and had ruined a Christmas:
This is the kind of info I was after - thank you ❤️
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was it an abusive relationship? I haven't read too much into it
I had only read about him apparently being unfaithful but another poster has shared some good links…
 
The websleuths thread also has quite alot of info from the first trial where people were following along

 
The websleuths thread also has quite alot of info from the first trial where people were following along


Thank you! Interesting reading.
 
I’m really intrigued by the murderous primary school teacher case - in particular, what their relationship was like and the factors that led to this.

I saw an interview with his mum, where she referred to him as a ‘cheeky boy…you know how boys are’ or something like that. Well, he was a man, not a boy. And I think ‘cheeky’ can be used as a more palatable term to describe all kinds of problematic behaviour. From that short snippet, I guessed that his mum probably coddled him, let him do as he pleased, never held him accountable for his actions and put him on a pedestal. He was probably looking for another version of his mum in his partner and was disappointed to find out that she wasn’t quite as forgiving as his mum.

The teacher’s actions clearly tormented her for her to develop mental health problems and write it all down to purge herself of it. But that doesn’t excuse her actions either.
Was she looking at pictures of him as a kid when she called him a 'cheeky boy'?

 
The websleuths thread also has quite alot of info from the first trial where people were following along

It's a tough one for me because I understand that if someone was constantly making you feel like tit you would eventually snap. However, to bury his body in her garden and have a drink with his Mum two feet away seems so cold. Killing someone in the heat of the moment can happen but it's how she dealt with it afterwards.
 
It's a tough one for me because I understand that if someone was constantly making you feel like tit you would eventually snap. However, to bury his body in her garden and have a drink with his Mum two feet away seems so cold. Killing someone in the heat of the moment can happen but it's how she dealt with it afterwards.
There is also the enticement of sex, and the tying him up. It does make it all look rather premeditated,

It will be interesting to see what tariff she gets - given that there was already a mistrial, and she changed her plea after the trial started,
 
Oh no...


" University-educated Beal returned to her teaching role for several months in the wake of the murder and used her victim’s phone to send messages to Nick’s family, including one on December 30, 2021, in which she texted his mother that he had been to see his beloved Manchester United at Old Trafford. "
 
Oh no...


" University-educated Beal returned to her teaching role for several months in the wake of the murder and used her victim’s phone to send messages to Nick’s family, including one on December 30, 2021, in which she texted his mother that he had been to see his beloved Manchester United at Old Trafford. "
It just makes her look really cold, and like she planned it. There doesn't seem to be any panic at all from her just very controlled. The fact she's tied him up offering sex, stabbed him, bought items from b&q, buried him, had his mum round for drinks just seems horrible. She was able to live a normal life it seems. I think she might get 20+ years minimum all things considered, there might have been abuse but unfortunately only her and him know the truth and one is dead.
 
It just makes her look really cold, and like she planned it. There doesn't seem to be any panic at all from her just very controlled. The fact she's tied him up offering sex, stabbed him, bought items from b&q, buried him, had his mum round for drinks just seems horrible. She was able to live a normal life it seems. I think she might get 20+ years minimum all things considered, there might have been abuse but unfortunately only her and him know the truth and one is dead.
Add to that the body wasn't found for months, and seemingly only after she told the police were it was.
I'm wondering when she told the police about the "abuse".
And what part that played in the investigation of what appeared to be a missing persons case.

Oh and then there is the whole 'Tulip 22' thing.

The other thing that is a bit odd, it was mentioned on the websleuths forum, is that her name wasn't listed on the court papers - people following the trial only knew it was in court that day from the case number. Apparently the same thing happened in the Lucy Letby case.
Which raises the question as to why.
 
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