Olivia Neill #15 Worried about a scar, when she wears those glasses and drives a hairdressers car

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ellamae said:
What I said I still stand by. I’m not going to allow biases to cloud my judgement. Many times I’ve critiqued her. But, my point is that EDs when you’re super thin can make you see yourself as a healthy weight or feel fat, even though everyone else is saying you’re not. So what’s the diff between a healthy woman posting the exact same content and Olivia? I don’t see people slamming the healthy women ever? It’s always the super thing, or fat women who get critiqued. If Olivia is unwell, it’s very well that she sees herself in the same way as a healthy woman posting pics of their outfits etc? Her friend Tilly does it alll the time and posts in her undies etc, are people ever commenting on her videos that she’s triggering? No.
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A lot of the time her body checking is her postings vids in her outfits and feeling good about herself. If you feel hot and wanna post it that isn’t vanity or triggering. Olivia has plenty of followers and a lot of them are not triggered by her stuff so I’m not sure if you have issues you need to resolve? I am personally not triggered by her content or physique and many others aren’t. Tattle isn’t a representation of the big wide world. The fashion industry is filled with women slimmer than Olivia. Do you call out Iris Law on online forums in the same way for being triggering, or are you just biased towards Olivia because you don’t like her. I can call out Olivia’s bad behaviour on here but I am not going to critique something I don’t think is an issue.
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Uh.... people aren't slamming healthy women, maybe b/c they ARE healthy?? Did you not read what I said?
If you have a public platform and you're promoting unhealthy behaviours (whether you're skinny, fat, ''healthy'') then you will (and should) be called out. If you have a public platform then you do have a responsibility towards your followers/viewers. Preventing your followers from being affected by your damaging and toxic behaviour is the least you can do as an influencer.
The WHOLE point (which you have misunderstood) is that she KNOWS she is exhibiting pro-ana/ED behaviour and doing nothing about it.
Tilly does not have as big of a viewership as her - and as far as we know she hasn't promoted disordered eating habits. If she did, then she'd probably be critiqued too. It's not about feeling ''hot'' and ''posting in your undies'', b/c tons of people do that. The difference is promoting unhealthy habits and warped ideas of how someone's body should look. Just b/c you are ''personally not triggered by her content or physique'' that does not mean there isn't an issue w/ the stuff she's posting. And it's debateable that she's posting b/c she feels good about herself - if someone geniunely felt good about themself they wouldn't resort to editing their photos to the extent that Olivia does.
Tbh, I think you have issues you need to resolve - maybe start by asking yourself why are you obssessed w/ defending someone who doesn't know you exist. I actually don't think you can call out Olivia, tbh. You seem to think she is above criticism for some odd reason.
 
acelover said:
Uh.... people aren't slamming healthy women, maybe b/c they ARE healthy?? Did you not read what I said?
If you have a public platform and you're promoting unhealthy behaviours (whether you're skinny, fat, ''healthy'') then you will (and should) be called out. If you have a public platform then you do have a responsibility towards your followers/viewers. Preventing your followers from being affected by your damaging and toxic behaviour is the least you can do as an influencer.
The WHOLE point (which you have misunderstood) is that she KNOWS she is exhibiting pro-ana/ED behaviour and doing nothing about it.
Tilly does not have as big of a viewership as her - and as far as we know she hasn't promoted disordered eating habits. If she did, then she'd probably be critiqued too. It's not about feeling ''hot'' and ''posting in your undies'', b/c tons of people do that. The difference is promoting unhealthy habits and warped ideas of how someone's body should look. Just b/c you are ''personally not triggered by her content or physique'' that does not mean there isn't an issue w/ the stuff she's posting. And it's debateable that she's posting b/c she feels good about herself - if someone geniunely felt good about themself they wouldn't resort to editing their photos to the extent that Olivia does.
Tbh, I think you have issues you need to resolve - maybe start by asking yourself why are you obssessed w/ defending someone who doesn't know you exist. I actually don't think you can call out Olivia, tbh. You seem to think she is above criticism for some odd reason.
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You have obviously not known anyone who has battled an ED because for some they are in utter denial and see themselves in a healthy or large body even! That’s my point. Olivia probs doesn’t look in the mirror and see skin and bones and she probably doesn’t think she looks ill. You clearly don’t get it at all so I’m not going to bother to discuss this with you. I’m not necessarily defending Olivia right now, I’m defending those who battle with EDs because it’s an incredibly complex and threatening mental health disorder. Viewers also have a duty to filter and restrict who they see. Some people love Olivia’s content maybe they find her fashion choices inspiring or uplifting and don’t look at her body in the same way you do with judgement? It’s really important that we are progressive on Tattle and don’t just shun someone like Olivia for absolutely everything without properly looking at and judging the situation from different perspectives. Otherwise, you create an echo chamber of people just dissing her and it destroys any credit in actual real criticisms and labels us trolls.
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Also she knows she Is exhibiting ED behaviour? How do you know this? Many people with EDs don’t. She lacks energy, burns out easily etc and obviously hasn’t connected the dots. Her sister looks like she has an ED too, her mum is an almond mum and her dad has undergone fad diets. She has probably been bought up to have a disordered relationship with food and so isn’t recognising her issues right now or has been bought up into thinking that being super skinny = healthy.


Mod edit,anyhow let's not argue with each other and move on.
 
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There’s nothing more infuriating than seeing the prevalence of pretty privilege when it comes to defending the rich, toxic, ‘heroin chic’ white girls like Olivia Neill.

Also in regards to someone above saying we shouldn’t discuss her image on here as it ‘won’t help her’ because she might read here.. I can understand where you are coming from but let’s be real here. It’s not even like we are discussing or mentioning it on her personal social media profiles - these are private discussions on a widely used gossip forum for public figures. SHE chooses to put herself out there; the body checking, toxic body image influences (which no doubt rubs off on her millions of young female fans) and she’s not exactly someone who cares about doing good to or for others. I mean when has she ever used her huge platform for any sort of good.. *cough* never seen using it to help raise any sort of awareness even at the most crucial of times *cough*.

She doesn’t give a flying F about the influence she has, it’s all purely vanity and keeping up appearances with her. I mean for Gods sake, one of her TikTok’s just appeared on my FYP yesterday where she was eye f*cking herself in the backseat of an expensive car being driven around London and she wasn’t even wearing a seatbelt. I mean come on. I checked comments and saw someone had rightly pointed out the fact that it was a dangerous influence and also made a point of her staying so silent on what’s being going on in Palestine but of course her deranged worshipper fans came for that person.

Like what are these people defending here?!
 
sydneymae said:
There’s nothing more infuriating than seeing the prevalence of pretty privilege when it comes to defending the rich, toxic, ‘heroin chic’ white girls like Olivia Neill.

Also in regards to someone above saying we shouldn’t discuss her image on here as it ‘won’t help her’ because she might read here.. I can understand where you are coming from but let’s be real here. It’s not even like we are discussing or mentioning it on her personal social media profiles - these are private discussions on a widely used gossip forum for public figures. SHE chooses to put herself out there; the body checking, toxic body image influences (which no doubt rubs off on her millions of young female fans) and she’s not exactly someone who cares about doing good to or for others. I mean when has she ever used her huge platform for any sort of good.. *cough* never seen using it to help raise any sort of awareness even at the most crucial of times *cough*.

She doesn’t give a flying F about the influence she has, it’s all purely vanity and keeping up appearances with her. I mean for Gods sake, one of her TikTok’s just appeared on my FYP yesterday where she was eye f*cking herself in the backseat of an expensive car being driven around London and she wasn’t even wearing a seatbelt. I mean come on. I checked comments and saw someone had rightly pointed out the fact that it was a dangerous influence and also made a point of her staying so silent on what’s being going on in Palestine but of course her deranged worshipper fans came for that person.

Like what are these people defending here?!
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You’re so right 👏🏼
 
I don't necessarily think I defend her, she definitely puts herself out there and she's insanely privileged beyond what most of us could ever even imagine but at the end of the day I still feel sorry for her. She's constantly surrounded by people who enable her ED - her family included. She has all the looks and money and fame she could ever need but she's clearly deeply insecure and unhappy
 
But it always is the same people defending her and feeling sorry for her, if you feel that sorry for her why feel sorry for her on tattle of all places. It just feels like there’s nowhere she can be criticised, like she’s immune to anything other than praise being said about her, it’s bizarre
 
Jasminexx02 said:
But it always is the same people defending her and feeling sorry for her, if you feel that sorry for her why feel sorry for her on tattle of all places. It just feels like there’s nowhere she can be criticised, like she’s immune to anything other than praise being said about her, it’s bizarre
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I don't know how saying she's overly privileged and deeply unhappy is praising her lol
 
I have a lot of empathy for people struggling with eating disorders, the most recent statistics I’ve seen is that between 35-50% of females between 16 and 25 struggle with some type of restrictive eating disorder, which is horrifying. One of the largest proponents of recent decade’s surge is undoubtedly media’s glorification of women who are extremely thin. Victoria Beckham was always one of these women, but has also been open about the amount of exercise and restricted eating that she undertakes to maintain this.

I am somebody who doesn’t think that influencers ‘owe’ us much in terms of managing triggers etc, however I believe that that means that as observers, we will criticise. I think where Olivia has been damaging is previously having an entire personality trait on how much she eats/ barely exercising, and yet posting body checks of her extremely thin frame, which is confusing for young girls who aspire to look like her. She’s never been open about how she looks the way she does, not that she ‘owes’ it, but having also said in old videos that she’s never struggled with an eating disorder, and yet in a recent podcast saying that she did when she was 16, it’s all conflicting and confusing. Whether you like it or not, people are going to talk about that.

On top of that, in 2022 Olivia paid herself out of her company over £650,000 (after taxes), imagine how much it will be for this year just gone !! She has so many resources to manage her ED that the average person struggling could only dream of. That doesn’t mean that her eating disorder is any less damaging, however she doesn’t need to wait on the long NHS waiting lists and jump through hoops to receive treatment. For just a fraction of that she could have a dietician, CBT, and a structured plan privately to help her. It also means that if she needed to take a break from work to properly work everything out mentally, she has more than enough money to sustain her. I think it’s fair to comment that her work would potentially fuel any ED, especially when her work is centred on her looks these days as a lot of it is brand campaigns that are just photoshoots.

I don’t think tattle is the place to expect constant empathy for a millionaire. I sympathise with her and anyone’s struggles with their own body, but as an observer she could help herself so much more than she is.
 
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