Niomi Smart #5 Onwards, upwards, but not Woodwards

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She is kind of obsessed no. Let him the f*ck eat whatever he wants

i totally understand you but it's different for different people. and i think it depends on the way you've been abandoned by your father. i use to think i was unaffected by my dad leaving my mum when she was pregnant but all my fucked up toxic relationships say otherwise haha. i think being rejected by your dad can definitely affect you and your response to relationships.
i HATE that i'm about to say this but i really bleeping feel for her, her controlling obsessive food and 'we' bullshit screams insecurity
also plz everyone know i'm usually so critical of her and she pisses me off so much but i just want to give her a hug atm :(
I totally understand. I feel for her too. I mean if she was controlling, she was like that throughout. Atleast joe should not have proposed. That took it to some other level. Heartbreaks are not easy but i am sure she will find her type. Joe was not any saint either and not the last man on earth
 
Not great for his self respect and pride. I would be shocked if he didn't insist on paying his own way, and i would be worried if he was prepared to sponge off niomi.

He owns a flat, if they moved in and Freddie was going to move out that would seem normal as would niomi paying rent and half the utilities. But the flat wasn't her style, the house they rented wasn't his, so we had two sets of resentment simmering away behind the scenes.

At least there wasn't an avocado bathroom suite and carpets in the bathroom and kitchen! It wasn't a girly place, but two men lived there..

Honestly, if that's what he thought, good riddance. Men with fragile egos, snore.
 
Poor Joe, honestly. He's a big, tall guy. A guy his size needs bigger portions to maintain his weight, not Niomi's teeny tiny green bowls. It wouldn't surprise me if he put his foot down about eating what he wants and not letting her take over Freddie's flat and that's what all these vague comments about putting herself first and never letting someone dim her sparkle are about. Her need to control is so all-encompassing that I can really see her not taking kindly to being told to wind her neck in a bit. Especially since only recently she was saying they'd never exchanged a cross word: it wouldn't surprise me if it all bubbled up to the surface and Niomi was shocked.
 
The way she responds to the toast thing etc is pretty strong on camera but she obviously thinks that’s an acceptable/relatable response to put that in a video. So I can only dare to imagine what her response is to him wanting to eat stuff she doesn’t approve of when off camera. I thought when he said no to the tea, his eyes flicked towards the camera as well? He was obviously aware he was being filmed when he said no and was hesitant about the toast - he turned away as he said it, like he didn’t even want to see her reaction. It’s so messed up.
 
They seem so uncomfortable and awkward around each other in these videos. Like that very very weird kiss he gives her on her forehead (after her birthday surprise tape where everyone left her messages) the relationship and conversation seems so forced. No natural flow, they are so stiff. As for Joe, I can't figure out if he is camera shy, feels trapped or like he can't be himself around her or if he has no idee who the hell he is as a person. He just gives of no vibes at all. Can't figure him out.
I feel joe was like this forever. Like most people commented how joey looked at niomi, i never found anything special. It was more from niomis side, joey joey joey
 
I was bored last night and scrolled through his feed a little. In a few clips with his friends, he seems like another person. He is definitely more mellow compared to his brother but I don't think he has that much of a cardboard personality either. I couldn't be myself in front of a camera all day long so my personal opinion is that he was very reserved/watered down whenever Niomi vlogged, and increasingly so as time went by. Combine that with an already basic demeanor and you indeed have a wet lettuce.

Yeah, I wonder if part of it is being camera-shy. Maybe Niomi has said things like “no don’t say/do that when I’m filming” and so he just stays quiet and on his best behavior.

Also, no idea what Niomi is like when the camera is off- maybe she’s more easygoing or fun, and he feels he needs to fit her on-camera persona but doesn’t know how. Idk! I just remember back when she would hang out with Zoe and Tanya, I remember her being more fun and lively. I don’t know if she’s changed or just what she’s putting out on the internet.
 
I think Niomi was different and more carefree with Marcus as they literally grew up together. He prob felt comfortable telling her to F off. Joe just seemed scared and shy the whole time. It was prob hard for him to maintain the social media image for her and drunk a bit too much one night and gave her some home truths
 
I think Niomi was different and more carefree with Marcus as they literally grew up together. He prob felt comfortable telling her to F off. Joe just seemed scared and shy the whole time. It was prob hard for him to maintain the social media image for her and drunk a bit too much one night and gave her some home truths

Totally. Marcus knew her before she started her health kick so probably saw that more relaxed side of her. Joe has only ever seen the smoothie-bowl-obsessing, fennel-tea-pushing, 10k-running-robot she is these days.
 
Tbf it’s a better marketing strategy. If she released a video saying what happened we’d all watch it then lose interest again. The way she’s drip feeding info, we’re all looking at her insta stories and those of her friends all the time, it’s keeping the interest going. I’d like to think she’s not doing this on purpose but the cynic in me thinks she has a brand about to launch and this is definitely the best way to keep the engagement up, maybe she’s even been advised to do this!

oh yes definitely. But think wasting time. Who is going to buy this skin care range. It’s going to end up like those rabbit food boxes.

she could have played a blinder from the beginning for the sympathy vote . Get more people buy it. The people who got no interest in it .
With how she portrayed herself. Given a more truthful account .

‘I’m so glad I’ve got this skin care range . I I’ve worked so hard on it . it’s been a terrible time and it’s kept me going with the hope you will all love it ‘

Rather than all that onwards and upwards stuff. We all know she won’t feel like that. She will be devastated
 
I think Niomi was different and more carefree with Marcus as they literally grew up together. He prob felt comfortable telling her to F off. Joe just seemed scared and shy the whole time. It was prob hard for him to maintain the social media image for her and drunk a bit too much one night and gave her some home truths
It was only a matter of time, if you have to tread on eggshells around someone all the time eventually you end up telling them it's suffocating behaviour. If he was never allowed to eat what he wanted and make his own damn meals then this outcome was always going to happen, I guess. They both need to move on, but Niomi especially needs to calm down about policing what partners eat, especially when they are taller/bigger and need more fuel, else the same will happen to the next guy. I think influencers like Niomi forget sometimes that food is actually a necessity and fuel for the body, and that actually balance is key.
 
Omg guys rewatch her what I eat in a day in self isolation. He is literally shaking making a smoothie in front of her. At the end, she explains how she is creating a meal plan for them both 😮 let the man eat!

I used to date a guy like Niomi. Fitness, and healthy food-obsessed. It drove me crazy and it was a nightmare of a relationship. He was constantly watching my food. He was telling me off for snacking on some cashews and raisins and would always be in control of what we were buying at the supermarket. Now when I look back I realise that was quite abusive and is not normal. I feel for Joe and it's good he finally decided to get out.
 
That clip is the definition of cringy mixed with control issues
Let't the guy eat what he wants
I can't believe he put up with that for 4 years I need some of his patience in my life
I wonder if he thought he was punching above his weight and so overlooked it until it became such a problem. She can't even see how controlling she is with the food, surely watching the vlog back whilst editing should have prompted her to think I come across a bit controlling, here? Niomi uploaded the vlog so I guess she just doesn't see the issue.
 
True, she wasn't this obsessed with everything being "perfect" back then so I guess she could be a little more easygoing. Then again, her boyfriend back in the day was a very in-your-face-Youtube-guy, perhaps Marcus and the others' entertainer online persona influenced her too. Ever since Dreamy Joe came into the picture, Niomi suddenly became fixated on appearing even more prim and perfect.
 
Maybe Niomi seemed like the kind of girl he felt he needed to date based on his family/upbringing. Then lockdown happened, not only did that mean so much time together but I think it caused a lot of people to re evaluate their lives - what is important to them, are they happy etc. And he realised they didn't really work as a couple. Whereas for Niomi it is all about portraying the perfect life for social media so she probably didn't even notice areas where they were not working.

It can also still be really difficult and upsetting to be the one to initiate a break up. He probably is also hurting and missing her, and also feels guilty that he has upset and angered her.

Ugh break ups suck.
 
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