Niomi Smart #4 where did Joey goey?

[Jackie Daytona]

First sign should’ve been when she would talk about moving back to England during the summers while Joe sat there, saying, “idk, maybe.” She wasn’t putting him first then, when she was basically telling the whole world, including his new employers that he and his family would have no intentions of making any long-term ties to the community.

I have a feeling she guilt tripped him a lot when he had to work late or travel.

 

[Leah91]

This was SO weird. I remember watching that and thinking ?? Even if their plans weren’t set in stone at the time, it just seemed like they were both on different pages.

First sign should’ve been when she would talk about moving back to England during the summers while Joe sat there, saying, “idk, maybe.” She wasn’t putting him first then, when she was basically telling the whole world, including his new employers that he and his family would have no intentions of making any long-term ties to the community.

I have a feeling she guilt tripped him a lot when he had to work late or travel.

 

[FS123]

Not knowing what they were doing this summer probably had to do with her skincare range.

If he's left her high and dry, without a chance to perhaps change some of her controlling behavior, that's just shocking.

 

[prinnykin]

This is gonna be really awkward if they get back together...

I assume it's gotta be something you can't come back from. Either he realized he doesn't love her, or he simply prefers to be single and free so he can travel. I doubt they ended an engagement because she's controlling with food. That could be fixed with a little communication.

 

[Delizia]

Just finished going through the previous thread, I have not even been up this late binge-watching during lockdown XD. Well that was a funny read through. You guys literally started begging Naynay to spice things up, speculating on how long would the wedding last, then calling out a nearby breakup... that was brilliant.
Unfortunately I'm more than a couple of years older than that Joe otherwise I would have flown to Dubai to help him forget this control freak. I had no idea she was that fake.
To the person who shared her personal story with Niomi the bully, seeing people worshiping her must be hard but in the end... karma did hit her hard, see! No matter what she tries to portray her life to be like currently. I know it's mean and it seems like I'm happy she "suffered" a break up, but after reading all this it's obvious she's not a good person. In the end she'll be fine. To anybody watching The Good Place, she's totally Tahani Al-Jamil. Pretending to be perfect but really the most self centered narc ever.

 

[Buffalonian0809]

I rewatched the bridesmaid picnic video and she is literally going on about how having to leave India so suddenly and going into lockdown made them so much stronger as a couple and as individuals. Also how they hope to go back to India again one day as a married couple. And then one month later, they are DONE. I still can’t wrap my head around it. She is either a great actress or never saw this coming. I so want to know how it all went to hell so quickly.

 

[prinnykin]

I rewatched the bridesmaid picnic video and she is literally going on about how having to leave India so suddenly and going into lockdown made them so much stronger as a couple and as individuals. Also how they hope to go back to India again one day as a married couple. And then one month later, they are DONE. I still can’t wrap my head around it. She is either a great actress or never saw this coming. I so want to know how it all went to hell so quickly.

I think she saw it coming. Her intuition would've told her something was up, but she was probably in denial.

@Delizia - I don't believe Niomi is a bad person. She seems very sweet, sickly sweet, but I think she's a good person. Why is she a bully? Have I missed something? There are actually bad people out there doing horrible things. Niomi is not one of them.

I'm tired of people calling everyone a 'Narc'. A narcissist will destroy anyone in their path and cause a lot of pain and destruction for anyone who knows them. Niomi clearly has empathy. I wish people would stop using this term to describe people they don't like.

 

[Delizia]

I think she saw it coming. Her intuition would've told her something was up, but she was probably in denial.

@Delizia - I don't believe Niomi is a bad person. She seems very sweet, sickly sweet, but I think she's a good person. Why is she a bully? Have I missed something? There are actually bad people out there doing horrible things. Niomi is not one of them.

I'm tired of people calling everyone a 'Narc'. A narcissist will destroy anyone in their path and cause a lot of pain and destruction for anyone who knows them. Niomi clearly has empathy. I wish people would stop using this term to describe people they don't like.

Someone in the previous thread explained how she knows Niomi from school and how she made her life such a nightmare, and actually had to go to counseling. This person apparently has receipts and in contact with a journalist? And yes I'm calling her a narc maybe more loosely, as in very self-centered. I'm sorry but I don't think she's the little angel she tries to portray after reading here... I think she's very much aware of how to look good, caring, generous, and politically correct with all the caritative and healthy life happy life thing... I don't follow her religiously though, it's my opinion of her from just finishing reading the previous thread.

 

[LolVStein]

This must have been a very messy/intense breakup « clearly I was on the wrong path ». The girl is really mad. I seriously wonder if she caught him cheating

 

[Dippitydoo]

I signed up here just for this. Lol. My guess, aside from their incompatibility coming to head with lockdown is maybe Joe was offered a job somewhere and he took it without talking to Niomi about it and she either didn’t want to move wherever it is, got mad that they didn’t discuss it, or the job said he can’t take anyone he’s not married to so he chose a job over her.

 

[Takkat]

Just speculating but what if Niomi came across something at Freddie's apt that pointed to Joe's infidelity. I just can't imagine Niomi getting so pissed at Joe over moving to Dubai. Maybe a heated argument but not to the extent that it would break off the engagement. If there was any tension or doubts at Joe's parents house Niomi would not have moved into Freddie's apt nor asking Charlotte to be her maid of honor.

 

[prinnykin]

Someone in the previous thread explained how she knows Niomi from school and how she made her life such a nightmare, and actually had to go to counseling. This person apparently has receipts and in contact with a journalist? And yes I'm calling her a narc maybe more loosely, as in very self-centered. I'm sorry but I don't think she's the little angel she tries to portray after reading here... I think she's very much aware of how to look good, caring, generous, and politically correct with all the caritative and healthy life happy life thing... I don't follow her religiously though, it's my opinion of her from just finishing reading the previous thread.

Oh wow, I didn't know about this. I guess we can never really know someone based on their curated online persona.

 

[thereshegoesagain]

I wonder if coronavirus didn’t exist (don’t we all wish) and they had stayed in India how things would’ve pinned out. Would they still be loved up? Would she have flown back on a plane alone after being broken up with in a foreign country?
Would love to see an alternative reality version of this saga.

 

[FS123]

It's clear the pressure of lockdown got to them but surely they knew each other well enough going into it... A busy job?? They lived together for quite a while. Something must have happened.

And Niomi was convinced Joe was moving "them" back to London in the past couple of weeks. Even if she was in denial, he was lying...

 

[heyguyssotoday]

My takeaway/speculation after reading through all the posts here, and watching some past videos and posts, is that Niomi might have felt very insecure about the relationship - from the way she tried to constantly portray it as perfect and Joe as “dreamy,” and all the “we like this/we do that, don’t we Joe” talk in vlogs. It smacks to me of someone trying to grasp onto something that is/was slipping away, or maybe wasn’t there to begin with.

While not everyone is an extrovert or has a big personality, and certainly not everyone is comfortable on video, Joe’s very placid, benign reactions to her in her vlogs make me feel like maybe he wasn’t very reciprocal/emotional/expressive in the ways that Niomi needed, and it made her anxious about the relationship, especially if she idolized him at all, and so she tried harder to hold onto him or to show that they were the best thing going, when in fact there were cracks all along.

Once again, all speculation, but I love talking about psychology and relationships and stuff!

 

[Swipeupyouguys]

She’s now following a break-up coach account... her recent follows are so telling!

And all on her public insta account!

 

[FS123]

To be fair, a lot of us who follow Niomi find something about her formerly perfect life vaguely interesting - and didn't pick up on the fake facade.

 

[WhippedCreamAndSprinkles]

Niomi liked this comment. The comments above and below were not liked by her. She liked this one in particular. I’m assuming it spoke to her.

 

[mindlessness]

Erm have you guys been on joes Instagram and seen he’s description.
“ I ❤ ”
I’m sorry but with pizza gate ect right now who in their right mind would have that on their profile?

I’m sorry but pizza gate is a huge talked about thing.
Even if you do just love pizza you would take it out your description.
Alot of the people Pin pointed for pizza gate have had the exact same insta description.
I’m not a huge conspiracy theorist myself - I’ve heard of it and read a bit but not enough to consume me or for me to have an opinion on whether it is true or not -
I’m just saying - you wouldn’t keep that in your description.

Others have responded but thought I would share this to help clarify that pizzagate (a very US-centric conspiracy theory) has been debunked.

Pizzagate: Anatomy of a Fake News Scandal

The web of conspiracy theorists, Russian operatives, Trump campaigners who manufactured 'news' that Hillary Clinton ran a child-sex ring.

www.rollingstone.com

So not one problem with him declaring his love for the delicious food.

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Interesting they used the word 'jilted'. Normally I would associate it with someone breaking the engagement very close to the wedding or the day of? But it probably does have a more general 'broken engagement' meaning.

 

[lilamay]

Rewatched this video... found another moment I would've overlooked the first time watching but now I notice it. At 4:40 Niomi laughs at Joe for eating a banana before their 10k run. He rolls his eyes, tries to laugh it off and says 'I know what I'm doing - bananas have energy. Eat a banana and everything will be OK. I'm just nervous eating.' I think she gave the man a complex.