Niomi Smart #2 Glitch in the Gleam Bot, I'll just have to put Joe's fennel teabag back

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The more you think about it, and even watching her old videos with him in this new context, they actually aren't that great a match beyond the sickly sweet goo. They are a great-looking couple no doubt but I can't imagine them really properly laughing together, or being on the same wavelength, their interactions were so shallow and surface-level.

Plus they always had to do Niomi activities and I can't imagine how boring that would be. There were so many vlogs where she was hanging around at 6am and said she was going to wake Joe up (on a weekend, after his week of work at a real job) early so they could do something she'd planned for them like "fuel" a perfect 2 hours before a 10k race. Or go out to a hipster vegan brunch. Opposites attract but lifestyle-wise I feel like she needs to be with some intense fitness warrior who will be just as into waking up at the crack of dawn with her for races, and he needs to be with someone with a sense of humour.
 
earlgrey said:
The more you think about it, and even watching her old videos with him in this new context, they actually aren't that great a match beyond the sickly sweet goo. They are a great-looking couple no doubt but I can't imagine them really properly laughing together, or being on the same wavelength, their interactions were so shallow and surface-level.

Plus they always had to do Niomi activities and I can't imagine how boring that would be. There were so many vlogs where she was hanging around at 6am and said she was going to wake Joe up (on a weekend, after his week of work at a real job) early so they could do something she'd planned for them like "fuel" a perfect 2 hours before a 10k race. Or go out to a hipster vegan brunch. Opposites attract but lifestyle-wise I feel like she needs to be with some intense fitness warrior who will be just as into waking up at the crack of dawn with her for races, and he needs to be with someone with a sense of humour.
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Couldn't agree more with this.

I lived in Notting Hill around the time when she was in that flat and he was seeing her. I saw a few times get on the tube at Notting Hill Gate station, around 8am with the rest of the commuters, that Monday-Friday 9am-5pm life -- I think he'd enjoy someone who was living a similar life to him. They could have conversations about it, etc.

I know he was "handed" his jobs, who knows how much he enjoys them but there's no way he just went to work and did absolutely nothing every single day.
 
Buffalonian0809 said:
I always felt the engagement came only because of India and the sacrifices she was willing to make? But who goes through all that and gets both of their families involved if deep down he wasn’t sure this was what he really wanted? Remember the families had several dinners and parties to celebrate? It’s all very messy and honestly, it seems horribly ill conceived for a guy in his 30s.
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The parties were planned way before the engagement and were meant as a "goodbye" before the India move. Then the engagement happened so the parties turned into both a goodbye and engagement celebration. It's really not that crazy to me. It was all so rushed, I don't think he ever had much time to reflect on whether this was "really what we wanted" or not. I think he was planning to be India for a couple of years at least. At the time, he probably was ok with the idea of getting married and starting a whole new life. He obviously could have never predicted the pandemic and everything that was going to happen as a result of that. Like I said, once India got canceled out of the blue, I think he had to reevaluate his whole life, relationship included (What am I going to do now? What do I want the next five years to look like for me? What job am I going to do? Where do I want to live? Who do I want to live with?). He thought he had his life figured out for the foreseeable future and suddenly everything was flipped upside down. They wouldn't be the first couple to whom this happened.

Also, after what happened with Amelia Liana last year, nothing surprises me anymore TBH. Niomi's engagement breakup would be nothing compared to Amelia's!! (for those who don't know: Amelia had multiple engagement parties worth several dozens of thousands of pounds at a rented venue with several dresses, she had posted something like 20+ videos on her wedding planning, and she was only 2-3 months away from the wedding when her fiance broke it off -- the whole thing was extremely embarrassing).
 
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Disclaimer: I never followed Niomi fully, only knew her through Zoe/Tanya and found her generally harmless but bland, but after Joeeeeyyy and the engagement, I stopped checking in on her because I found her smugness unbearable so if I'm missing anything, apologies in advance.

So here's my theory on the situation (obviously pure speculation and based on superficial facts):

  • Joe and Niomi were both more in love with the idea of each other rather than each other. Niomi liked him for his looks, status, wealth(?) and Joe liked Niomi cause she was pretty, leggy and came off as sweet. From what we saw in her videos, it felt like they were both just playing the parts of Good Looking Man and Good Looking Woman fall in love in a 00s romcom movie.
  • I 100% agree that Joe only proposed because she was willing to uproot her entire life for him to go to India (I've seen this play out IRL with another couple and they are in a very unhappy marriage right now so Joe probably did himself a favour by pulling the plug now).
  • COVID Lockdown was already taking a toll on their relationship and taking into account Freddie's "chill out" Instagram post, I think Niomi's controlling and overbearing behaviour regarding the move with Freddie (and wedding plans) became way too evident. Assuming Joe was already stressed out with the lockdown and possibly unemployment(?), this was probably the straw that broke the camel's back.
  • I think this is probably a pretty definite split. If things were still up in the air, I honestly doubt Niomi would post such telling stories. She would try to cover it up with a more perfect rendition of her life while she tried to smooth things over with Joe behind the scenes. Given everything we've seen the past few days, it looks like she knows there's no going back. Joe must've been pretty firm. So all she can do now is post stories showing how carefree she is walking through a field and having fun with her friends and how hot she looks in her bikini and yoga pants to prove that she's not the Type A, controlling person Joe probably thinks she is right now.

    I had a look through Joe's old pictures on instagram and being with Niomi seriously took a toll on him. He looks gaunt, exhausted and drained post-meeting Niomi whereas before, he looked lively, young and happy. I really agree that Joe deserves to be someone who is as laid back as him and who will kick back with a beer and a pizza with him after a long day.
 
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I just think it’s weird she posted that ‘excuse my absence for the next few days haven’t been feeling myself’ insta in the first place. I don’t think people would’ve been bothered / noticed all the other hints like the lack of ring (since it seems to always be getting fixed) or the hidden heartbreak book or going home without Joe if it wasn’t for that in the first place. I agree with others it might be like a last ditch attempt to prove something because she knows this ‘break’ is pretty final. It’s just all so weird and now I want to know!
 
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She needs to turn her phone off.
 
I think Joey is way too attractive for her, and way to care-free. He used to work a lot and be without Niomi a lot. And he looked so happy when he was in India, with messy hair and a normal t-shirt. Don't think he is that rich guy that wanted luxury, i don't remember him posting about staying at Soho Home in India when he went on his own. When he posted something it was about how beautiful and fun India was. When he went with Niomi it was so different, she wanted luxury and who wants to design their own furniture when they will be staying there for a year. I think he got depressed when he had to leave India because that was his dream, and he ended up with Niomi in a luxurious house and had to plan a wedding. That was never his goal, his goal was living carefree in India.

I don't find Niomi attractive at all, she is just fit but also very annoying with her smoothy bowl weather, laughing at him for eating toast and butter.
 
ava2014 said:
I think he got depressed when he had to leave India because that was his dream, and he ended up with Niomi in a luxurious house and had to plan a wedding. That was never his goal, his goal was living carefree in India.
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I think this makes a lot of sense. You might be spot on with this. He seemed to really love India and I think he was likely on track to starting a life there before it was all ripped away from him in the blink of an eye. Anyone would get depressed if that happened to them. It might have been a case of always living under his father's shadow and in India he had a fresh start to really make a name for himself. I really feel for him if that's the case.
 
Ramster93 said:
Also, I disagree with anyone saying she can do better. Joe was a nice looking and seemingly normal/humble guy despite his upbringing. He's boring, yeah. But so is she!
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He is definitely the one that got away, Niomi will alway regret this. I remember when he made his first appearance in Tanya's Burr yearly christmas party vlog and everyone was like who is this hottie.
 
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