Model gossip #2

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I love Kate and find her interesting and love her clothes.
Linda Evangelista in the George Michael video when she has blonde hair - OMG - 🤩 WOW !
Like Miranda Kerr’s dimples.
Kloss I can’t see anything??
Cara when she is clean can look interesting.
The nepo babies - nothing.
Claudia now and then.
I have no room to judge believe you me lol 😂 just a head putting 50 pence into the meter !
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Just found this thread! Love model chat.

My claim to fame, Erin O'Connor called me a "r etard" when I was 13 and went on a shopping trip to London. I bloody loved Vogue and fashion, tried to be an Olsen twin with my huge disgusting Starbucks etc like a pretentious teen, and did probably stare like a weirdo (Topshop Oxford circus). The worst part was she rolled her R's for ages when she said it and laughed with the friend she was with. Mortified.😂🙈. never looked at her the same again and I didn't even speak to her 😂
 
HoneyNed said:
Just found this thread! Love model chat.

My claim to fame, Erin O'Connor called me a "r etard" when I was 13 and went on a shopping trip to London. I bloody loved Vogue and fashion, tried to be an Olsen twin with my huge disgusting Starbucks etc like a pretentious teen, and did probably stare like a weirdo (Topshop Oxford circus). The worst part was she rolled her R's for ages when she said it and laughed with the friend she was with. Mortified.😂🙈. never looked at her the same again and I didn't even speak to her 😂
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That's horrible! :(
 
HoneyNed said:
Just found this thread! Love model chat.

My claim to fame, Erin O'Connor called me a "r etard" when I was 13 and went on a shopping trip to London. I bloody loved Vogue and fashion, tried to be an Olsen twin with my huge disgusting Starbucks etc like a pretentious teen, and did probably stare like a weirdo (Topshop Oxford circus). The worst part was she rolled her R's for ages when she said it and laughed with the friend she was with. Mortified.😂🙈. never looked at her the same again and I didn't even speak to her 😂
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What a horror ! That reflects on her not you my love so forget the nasty jealous of you witch ! Xxx
 
Besides the few favoured nepo babies, models are drab. This bloke believes it's deliberate. I wonder if there's any truth to what he says.


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ochebalboa said:
Never found Kate Moss stunningly beautiful. Always thought i missed something
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It's not about being beautiful though, it's having 'it'. Her early 90s work was full of charm. In very simple pictures she was capable of conveying two or three conflicting emotions or vibes at once. She was enigmatic and could deliver a complexity her conventionally beautiful peers couldn't. For me, her face naturally carried that quality too, features just slightly too spaced or flat or angled funny. She could shapeshift; cute, sultry, androgynous, ethereal. The other girls were more one note. I don't know, I totally got her. She makes me feel something. That's the main thing. I admire the beauty of other models then forget about them. Jean Shrimpton is another favourite model of mine and she shares this ability with Kate, she could communicate on another level.
 
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SqualorVictoria said:
She made a horrible comment but what has that got to do with jealousy? I feel like women are always being accused of jealousy. Maybe she's just not a nice person
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Usually women when women are nasty to a stranger it’s rooted in jealousy, maybe if it was a friend you could argue she’s just nasty but usually when a stranger it’s to do with jealousy
 
Pipsy said:
Besides the few favoured nepo babies, models are drab. This bloke believes it's deliberate. I wonder if there's any truth to what he says.
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high fashion model here - 100% truth to it. It's bloody frustrating, esp. since I constantly see people saying models today are 'giving us nothing'. True, I can't say I'm particularly impressed with my own body of work but it's completely out of our control. We get shown moodboards and I always make a point to try things out that align with the concept, but 99% of the time the image that's used is the one where I'm just standing still looking pissed off. It's particularly frustrating if you're a model that has a real interest in/love for the art of fashion because every shoot/show you do you're just told to stand still, if you try and move around or look like you have any kind of personality they (art directors, photographer, etc.) tell you to stop and go back to being boring. Bella has a good body of work in my opinion but of course she does - she first of all does all the big campaigns with huge budgets, and they're booking her because she's HER. For the rest of us they just need 1x blonde model, 1 black (Sudanese most of the time) model with short hair just to fill out the clothes. It works well for brands because they don't have to pay nearly as much, but for the average model who does not come from money, to shoot with a high end brand is a huge opportunity and most of us aren't used to getting paid that much money, so of course we say yes when a luxury brand offer you £3000 for a global campaign when our peers from years ago would get millions for the same job.

It's beyond frustrating because a lot of us would LOVE to be able to actually be good performers, but as mentioned in that text the designers don't want the models to be recognised. When models are recognised their rates go up. They stop tolerating tit from people and designers/creative teams have to start treating models like actual people and not just figurines they can shove around, waste hours and hours of their time, shove pins into (yep this has happened to me, the person had the cheek to say "oh no, your blood's on the clothes" 💀) and all the rest of the nonsense your average model deals with.

I think now the only way non-nepo / celebrity models can actually have some sort of fulfilling career where they get to show their personality is if they have other interests or ventures that do well/essentially gets them the following that will bring awareness to brands they work with. You just have to have clout. On paper it sounds lucrative - my non-fashion friends gasped when I told them some of my rates (which are considered low compared to what they used to be) but since they only care about looks and are obssessed with finding 'new faces' there's no guarantee when your next job will be, you can easily go months with no work. But the second you're proactive and get a real job you lose it because your agent starts calling you at 11pm to say you need to get a eurostar to paris the following morning to go see some designer (you end up going - at your own expense btw - and don't even get the job lol.)

Frustrating times but since I'm a chronically young looking and lanky person in their mid twenties I'm still trying to make the most of it whilst I can and using it to (just about cover) essentials whilst I build my other freelance income streams. I used to get so confused when I read about models complaining about the industry because it seemed so easy, but now I'm in it I'm like OHHHHHHHH. 😂
 
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SqualorVictoria said:
She made a horrible comment but what has that got to do with jealousy? I feel like women are always being accused of jealousy. Maybe she's just not a nice person
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I think jealousy because it seems like she affected her in some way - if Erin was just the horror that she seems to be she would have just ignored her .
Both males and females get accused of jealousy and a tit load of other things in this social media life.
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In fairness it is overwhelmingly women who are accused of being jealous of other women. Men absolutely do not get accused as much, not even close

Which do you think is more likely?

That Erin saw someone who was clearly a fan (the OP by her own admission was staring). She took the opportunity to cruelly poke fun at a young fan for cheap laughs with her friend

That Erin, in a city such as London that has stunning women on every single corner, saw a young girl and was so jealous she just simply had to throw out insults

I know which scenario seems more likely to me

@Pipsy Great post on Kate Moss, agree on every word
 
tobaccolungss said:
We get shown moodboards and I always make a point to try things out that align with the concept, but 99% of the time the image that's used is the one where I'm just standing still looking pissed off. It's particularly frustrating if you're a model that has a real interest in/love for the art of fashion because every shoot/show you do you're just told to stand still, if you try and move around or look like you have any kind of personality they (art directors, photographer, etc.) tell you to stop and go back to being boring.
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I’ve noticed this a lot over the past years and I find it such a shame. I know some people don’t like them but Shalom Harlow, Coco Rocha (for example) are so expressive with how they model and it is like a form of artwork. Catwalks in the used to have such a fun, creative element to them now the models have a dead in the eyes trudge to the end.
Look at Coperni S/S 22 - they spray painted a dress on Bella Hadid which was reminiscent of Alexander McQueen S/S 1999 with the robots spray painting Shalom Harlow. For me, the Coperni stunt felt…just like a stunt. It looked awkward with three men crowding around a nearly naked younger woman and Bella had no express. Compared to McQueen, Shalom made it an art piece, almost like a dance. She really got in to character and it’s still being talked about 24 years later! It wouldn’t be done today but Naomi Campbell in the Versace Men’s S/S 1998 when she appeared with a gun, nothing like that really happens now.
 
Anasnake said:
So no ‘we don’t get out of bed for less than $10,000’ anymore ?!!
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If you're Bella Hadid I reckon so - but not for the rest of us mortals - you just get replaced with your slightly younger slightly skinner model doppelgänger 😂

To be fair, a number of my friends do absolutely rake it in doing a high volume of commercial work...but those are your more everyday less striking looking people. Interestingly one of the supers was repped by my agency - an agent told me they were upset about not being asked to do a big designer's catwalk show, but apparently it was because they can't afford her anymore lol! I can't even begin to imagine regularly making that much money in one go 😂
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thegirlscout said:
It wouldn’t be done today but Naomi Campbell in the Versace Men’s S/S 1998 when she appeared with a gun, nothing like that really happens now.
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That show was EVERYTHING. Every still in the video is great, a proper performance. I do wonder whether there's a chance of the genuine art coming back, but as they say, fashion is a reflection of the times we're in, and right now it's all a bit doom and gloom lol so in a way it makes sense that it's all so lacklustre now.
 
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queencarmen said:
I know she had an ED a few years ago, I’m assuming she lost most of her hair then. She really needs to stop typing it in a ponytail and let it recover properly 😭
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she’s always had a large forehead.
I looked up that controversial show she‘s on - no idea why any woman would want to be part of a scene where she’s ejaculated on in the face and then her boyfriend takes a photo and says it can be an album cover. I mean that’s out there on the internet for forever now. It’s all male gaze driven soft core p0rn tied up as a statement about the industry.
 
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