Love Island 2022 #12

[Weathergirl]

What a prick (Jacques).
Last night's episode had me thinking Paige is really emotionally immature and teenager-like in her approach to relationships. It's not "sweet", it's naieve, and she demonstrates the same immaturity in how she turns into a sly bitch in her reaction to ES, Paige doesn't have the guts to say it to her face.
I used to think Paige was lovely, but not anymore. She needs to grow up, or else she is going to be dating controlling and abusive wankers forever. It was really telling that when Jacques wanted to know why she was crying, she didn't have the courage or confidence to tell him. It's like a domestic abuser who makes their partner cry then love bombs them with flowers afterwards, and they don't have the courage to call them out on it.

 

[Gymhoned]

What a prick (Jacques).
Last night's episode had me thinking Paige is really emotionally immature and teenager-like in her approach to relationships. It's not "sweet", it's naieve, and she demonstrates the same immaturity in how she turns into a sly bitch in her reaction to ES, Paige doesn't have the guts to say it to her face.
I used to think Paige was lovely, but not anymore. She needs to grow up, or else she is going to be dating controlling and abusive wankers forever. It was really telling that when Jacques wanted to know why she was crying, she didn't have the courage or confidence to tell him. It's like a domestic abuser who makes their partner cry then love bombs them with flowers afterwards, and they don't have the courage to call them out on it.

It was uncomfortable to watch..i dont know he seemed a bit domineering.I guess its my age but i dont think we can criticise young women for acting certain ways..naive or immature as theyre young..you live and learn but being on a show like this..well youre not doing yourself any favours.

 

[DavidesOscar]

Not gunna unpack this too much, but regardless of the edit, his actions are his alone.
Whether it’s been edited to make him look like he’s ALWAYS like that, regardless of how he is the rest of the time, he’s still said and done all those things. And if he’s doing it to create a bravado or for airtime, it’s still problematic.

Him being young and stupid, or mouthy and reactive, or whatever he’s being doesn’t, in my opinion, equate to a bully or an abuser.
I think they’re just young and giving shit to each other. Danica has certainly give it back to him, and I’ve seen her rolling her eyes at him. And judging by the video I’ve seen with Gemma and her Dad, physical rough housing and taking the piss seems to be her affection (unpack what you want from that)
I do just think it’s his personality and if he was bullying I’d hope out of all the adults (cast and crew) on that show someone would flag it.
I don’t think they could actually come back from airing abusers and bullies on the show after what’s gone on in the past.

I guess I just “vibe” with that sense of humour and don’t see what everyone else does.

 

[stardust21]

I don’t think they could actually come back from airing abusers and bullies on the show after what’s gone on in the past.

Did you watch the last series? Because it was so dull they essentially made a whole series of Faye shouting, screaming and most definitely being abusive at times… to the point they had like 24,000 Ofcom complaints!

I’m not suggesting he is as bad as Faye, he isn’t. But I wouldn’t be so sure they wouldn’t air it. ITV exists to bring in ad revenue, and airing things that gets them talked about (good or bad) helps with that.

 

[Its_Me]

I meant that he looks so good for 57 - in great shape!

Got ya now lol They are some serious abs and I wouldn’t mind her midriff either

 

[ASAnigel]

Him being young and stupid, or mouthy and reactive, or whatever he’s being doesn’t, in my opinion, equate to a bully or an abuser.
I think they’re just young and giving shit to each other. Danica has certainly give it back to him, and I’ve seen her rolling her eyes at him. And judging by the video I’ve seen with Gemma and her Dad, physical rough housing and taking the piss seems to be her affection (unpack what you want from that)
I do just think it’s his personality and if he was bullying I’d hope out of all the adults (cast and crew) on that show someone would flag it.
I don’t think they could actually come back from airing abusers and bullies on the show after what’s gone on in the past.

I guess I just “vibe” with that sense of humour and don’t see what everyone else does.

I’ve never said he’s abusive, I just don’t think he’s a nice person.
Can we also stop calling these people “young” they’re fully grown adults.

I just feel for Danica, I don’t think she finds his comments funny at all which is why she’s eye rolling cause it’s uncomfortable.
I’m not saying it is, but bullying behaviour can start by someone masking their comments as humour, but if the other person doesn’t take them then is it still funny?

thing is we probably won’t know as we see a small snippet etc but I’m just saying just because he thinks it’s funny doesn’t mean everyone else is taking it that way?

 

[Gymhoned]

So we all know that Gemma’s contract stops her from being shown too provocatively right? That’s why we hardly see her in challenges or anything… I don’t think she’s actually super boring or reserved - just her contract means she is heavily edited. It’s a shame because I’d love to see what she’s actually like. I don’t trust this Luca the abuser narrative at all. I think it’s dangerous to his mental health and to actual real abuse victims.

I dont think most people think he is an abuser...his behaviour is a bit questionable..at the end of the day they are edited to look a certain way and we base our opinions on what we see.

 

[xcyber]

I know everyone loving ES but I find her quite grating. She can dish it out but can’t take it. I can honestly see why most of the islanders seem sick of her. Imagine day in day out making every possible situation about yourself and only ever seeing things from your own perspective. She really lacks insight into her own annoying traits and comes across as a professional victim.

 

[AshMay]

This show basically takes over my life for 8 weeks and now they're asking me to dedicate that time to it twice a year?! Please ITV, I have a job

Joking... I'm totally going to watch it twice a year and moan about it the whole time

Literally ruining my diet with the snacks and ruining my sleep schedule by watching it and reading all the memes after

 

[DavidesOscar]

I’ve never said he’s abusive, I just don’t think he’s a nice person.
Can we also stop calling these people “young” they’re fully grown adults.

I just feel for Danica, I don’t think she finds his comments funny at all which is why she’s eye rolling cause it’s uncomfortable.
I’m not saying it is, but bullying behaviour can start by someone masking their comments as humour, but if the other person doesn’t take them then is it still funny?

thing is we probably won’t know as we see a small snippet etc but I’m just saying just because he thinks it’s funny doesn’t mean everyone else is taking it that way?

I totally agree that maybe not everyone is seeing the funny side.
The thing is your brain doesn’t reach full maturity until 25. He’s 23. I think it’s fair to say he’s young… and doesn’t have a nuanced grasp of relationships and tact etc
This is when we see the huge differences between the younger guys and the “men” and the same for the girls.
I know I did some stupid shit in my late teens/early twenties I was just lucky enough that I’m so old I didn’t have to suffer through social media.

The thing is - all of these people have seen love island. They KNOW how it works.

I think there’s definitely a conversation to be having about the age of contestants and I would be in favour of moving it to 25+

 

[sellyoursoulforinsta]

Everyone needs to chill out about calling people abusers and bullies…look up the definition of ‘abuse’ and ‘bullying’ and then decide…and if i hear the word ‘problematic’ again i will just give up!
Its a reality entertainment show, we watch it for the good, the bad, the ridiculous and everything in between…what do people want…a boring 8 weeks of people being perfectly nice and pleasant to each other? We would be bored senseless…the woke brigade can fck right off…everyone in there is an adult and able to take what ever comes their way…and like most ppl in their 20s…theres will be ups and downs and lessons learned…woke brigade want to ruin literally everyrhing for everyone these days!!!

 

[DavidesOscar]

Did you watch the last series? Because it was so dull they essentially made a whole series of Faye shouting, screaming and most definitely being abusive at times… to the point they had like 24,000 Ofcom complaints!

I’m not suggesting he is as bad as Faye, he isn’t. But I wouldn’t be so sure they wouldn’t air it. ITV exists to bring in ad revenue, and airing things that gets them talked about (good or bad) helps with that.

That’s a good point. I get what you’re saying. I also just think Faye was a mouthy cow rather than abusive but that’s just me.
These bigger characters make great telly. It would be shit if they all sat around being nice to each other. So they do edit it and manipulate it to bring out the bigger sides of peoples personalities.

I’m just so mindful of writing a 19 - 23 year old off on a public forum or joining a narrative that could ruin a persons entire life when to me they’re just young and stupid and being manipulated for entertainment.

I much prefer watching the baiting of Ekin su and Davide etc who are grown ass adults and are providing such wonderful entertainment.

 

[Scorpihoe]

I didn’t call him abusive, I called him a bully. Remi literally said he would mock and make jokes at the expense of others in the villa and no one would stand up to him. We’ve seen it on TV too when he started shouting at ES and belittling her, he said “I’ll flatten you” to jay….those are just a few examples of what we have only been shown. If you don’t think that’s bullying then

 

[DavidesOscar]

As you were …

 

[camh14]

I knew Charlie reminded me of something

 

[ASAnigel]

I totally agree that maybe not everyone is seeing the funny side.
The thing is your brain doesn’t reach full maturity until 25. He’s 23. I think it’s fair to say he’s young… and doesn’t have a nuanced grasp of relationships and tact etc
This is when we see the huge differences between the younger guys and the “men” and the same for the girls.
I know I did some stupid shit in my late teens/early twenties I was just lucky enough that I’m so old I didn’t have to suffer through social media.

The thing is - all of these people have seen love island. They KNOW how it works.

I think there’s definitely a conversation to be having about the age of contestants and I would be in favour of moving it to 25+

100% it should be 25+ I think that would make it a much better show!
Of course they’ve all seen the show and a lot of them are acting up because they know it makes good telly!
I’m including luca in that I think he’s acting up thinking he’s funny so he’s entertaining but I don’t agree with it when it’s at the expense of other islanders if they clearly aren’t in on the joke if that makes sense?
And I just think all of them on there need to take responsibility for their actions on there when they come out cause the edit didn’t force them to say those things that’s all!
Anyway, I’m done and I still don’t think he’s a very nice person tho

 

[Lollyy]

I think Luca comes from a wealthy family, think Gemma will stick with him as a dani/jack situation.

 

[stardust21]

I invited my friend round this evening a few weeks ago so I won’t be able to watch live… really regretting my decision…

 

[Its_Me]

Everyone needs to chill out about calling people abusers and bullies…look up the definition of ‘abuse’ and ‘bullying’ and then decide…and if i hear the word ‘problematic’ again i will just give up!
Its a reality entertainment show, we watch it for the good, the bad, the ridiculous and everything in between…what do people want…a boring 8 weeks of people being perfectly nice and pleasant to each other? We would be bored senseless…the woke brigade can fck right off…everyone in there is an adult and able to take what ever comes their way…and like most ppl in their 20s…theres will be ups and downs and lessons learned…woke brigade want to ruin literally everyrhing for everyone these days!!!

Woke brigade killed me

I do think with all of these programmes some people are always waiting for the first person they can call abusive, bully, manipulative, gaslighting….and while sometimes there is some of that stuff going on it’s not always the case and no one can ever just not like someone or change their mind without being called something.

 

[1181carmenta]

The women on here who repeatedly back up the dickhead males give me the fear. How about - as a woman - you focus on supporting other women instead of backing men who don’t deserve it at every chance you get. It’s giving pick me. It’s all fine and well defending a man who’s treating women poorly, UNTIL IT’S YOU on the receiving end. These are the same women who slut shame women, or vilify them for the tiniest things, and laugh at the women being treated poorly by the men, all while justifying how the men are treating them because the women somehow deserve it and the men are just being judged unfairly. I hate the “boys will be boys!” mentality and giving men free passes. A lot of men are held to much lower standards than women, hence why any scrap of slight decency is praised and they’re put on a pedestal.