Lizzy Hadfield and Lindsey Holland #3 Boobs, booze and BJs

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I cringed at Vonnegut too. First problem here is Lizzy’s knowledge of the world wars and modern politics in general is shocking, she comes across as ignorant.
Second being Lizzy regularly admits to skim reading, skipping or not understanding the book she’s just read. Not all books are going to appeal to everyone but another book Lizzy’s said this about is Wolf Hall, polar opposite of Slaughterhouse Five.
Third issue is not researching, read Googling, words or things you come across in books that you don’t know or understand, otherwise you’re never going to understand what’s going on in the book or learn from it. It’s not even a negative as you can read a book that is a familiar subject to you and still learn from it.
This is why I don’t think reading comes naturally to Lizzy, or more I think she’s forcing herself to read certain books to fit in with a curated persona she wants to portray.

Lizzy has definitely done something to her face, when I first saw her IRL I remember how ridiculous her lips looked. There’s also something else that just looks a bit different about her face? Her cheeks have deflated from the intentional weight loss but that doesn't seem to be the only thing?
If she’s on the one way road to looking like Cher that’s her own prerogative but I don’t like how she harps on about having confidence not to wear makeup knowing fully well how it will effect some of her followers confidence whilst not disclosing having some sort of injectables.
 
I've developed a habit where right after I watch a movie, I Google it to read up on the director, actors, production, behind-the-scenes, etc. Even if I didn't like the movie, there's always at least one thing I'm curious about. It's disappointing that Lizzy didn't even try to look up the Cliff's Notes of Slaughterhouse-Five (or any book she didn't understand), which probably means she won't read any other works by that author.

Maybe it's just me, but I actually thought her face looked surprisingly puffy in that last vlog. She still has chipmunk cheeks, but they're just slightly more hollow on the sides from the weight loss. I too have the kind of baby face that doesn't show a dramatic change when I lose weight (though it does get fatter when I put on weight, dammit), so it's nice that she doesn't feel the need to contour to oblivion. But it is annoying that despite that, she still plays into the double standard of "Women don't need makeup to be beautiful! But also, I will blind you to my flaws with my voluptuous, pouty lips and bosoms!"
 
Lizzy has definitely done something to her face, when I first saw her IRL I remember how ridiculous her lips looked.

Did she look a lot different from the pictures she posts? I know it has also been mentioned that she elongates her figure often. Also, I guess it is easier to see when people have had work done when you see them in real life rather than on pictures. I'm on the fence, because I always remember her lips as looking like they do now, but I wouldn't be surprised if she got them done.
 
Lizzy’s lips didn’t look natural, unless she was pouting her way around Tesco - glam life. This was early last year before the lockdowns.
I’ve seen Lizzy a few times since walking near to where we live and I always think she looks miserable and unremarkable, sometimes a fashion victim. If I didn’t know who she was I would place her age at mid/late thirties.
I think the recent puffiness might be alcohol bloating since pubs have reopened.

Lizzy is tall and slim but her legs aren’t ridiculously long as she stretches them out to be, I think Lizzy must be telling the truth when she says she’s 5’8. These legs must belong to someone who is at least 7’, would she even be able to stand up in that room without hitting her head on the ceiling?
 

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Lol what the hell is with this faux-tattered hardback look? Really? The book came out a month ago, and probably takes 2 hours to read cover to cover. There's absolutely no way it would look that worn unless you distressed it on purpose like a pair of cutoff shorts. Perhaps making it look like a treasured old relic on the outside makes it easier to consume the drivel inside?

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Lol what the hell is with this faux-tattered hardback look? Really? The book came out a month ago, and probably takes 2 hours to read cover to cover. There's absolutely no way it would look that worn unless you distressed it on purpose like a pair of cutoff shorts. Perhaps making it look like a treasured old relic on the outside makes it easier to consume the drivel inside?

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I don’t want to sound mean but it’s this Hannah Louise girl and she either posts bizarre pictures where Lizzy looks 10 years older than she actually is or butters her up. There is no in between. Creepy!

I need to catch up on this thread but I sort of feel like nothing has happened in L&L’s lives while I wasn’t paying attention?! 🤣
 
Lol what the hell is with this faux-tattered hardback look? Really? The book came out a month ago, and probably takes 2 hours to read cover to cover. There's absolutely no way it would look that worn unless you distressed it on purpose like a pair of cutoff shorts. Perhaps making it look like a treasured old relic on the outside makes it easier to consume the drivel inside?

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did she really have to mention she was hungover, lol
 
I don’t want to sound mean but it’s this Hannah Louise girl and she either posts bizarre pictures where Lizzy looks 10 years older than she actually is or butters her up. There is no in between. Creepy!

I'm fully convinced Hannah Louise is a frenemy. The one who gives backhanded compliments ("Omg I love your outfit! You always manage to have such good luck at Goodwill!" and "Ugh, I should wear more blazers like you, because people always mistake me for someone younger!") and posts passive-aggressive group photos where you look your worst in order to make herself look cooler. But Lizzy and Lindsey can't dump her because... I don't know why exactly. Maybe she's their edgy friend they keep around for when they feel like slumming it in East London?
 
Lol what the hell is with this faux-tattered hardback look? Really? The book came out a month ago, and probably takes 2 hours to read cover to cover. There's absolutely no way it would look that worn unless you distressed it on purpose like a pair of cutoff shorts. Perhaps making it look like a treasured old relic on the outside makes it easier to consume the drivel inside?

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It looks like it's been kicked round the yard for a game of football. As it should be
 
It looks like it's been kicked round the yard for a game of football. As it should be
I still can't get over how bad is the design, I am not a designer but it felt like they are trying to 'optimize' the space by enlarging the font size and the number of words.

Hannah's hair, oh my! I get that her brand is edgy, but she looks offended before I even open my mouth than edgy.
 
I still can't get over how bad is the design, I am not a designer but it felt like they are trying to 'optimize' the space by enlarging the font size and the number of words.

Hannah's hair, oh my! I get that her brand is edgy, but she looks offended before I even open my mouth than edgy.
I'm a designer and this cover is so incredibly lazy, literally doable in five minutes. And not even well done either, why do they hate empty space? Typography needs a certain amount of space around it to look good but the title is really badly formatted. The first y almost touches the c below it, whereas the second y has a bit more distance to the letter underneath, although they are the same height (c & m). The k has even more distance to the letter above it. All the distances between the lines are different, which parts the title into "things you can't ask" and "yer mum". Reads super disjointed. The point of covers is to be able to read a title without thinking about it (maybe that's a designer issue) but it just visually overwhelms me?

Apart from that I don't understand why they didn't choose a layout reminiscent of the "chart-topping podcast". Surely you'd want people to recognize the cover and know it's related to the podcast? They have a lovely picture of the two on the stairs as their podcast thumbnail, why not use that or something similar. It looks cheap imo.
 
I'm a designer and this cover is so incredibly lazy, literally doable in five minutes. And not even well done either, why do they hate empty space? Typography needs a certain amount of space around it to look good but the title is really badly formatted. The first y almost touches the c below it, whereas the second y has a bit more distance to the letter underneath, although they are the same height (c & m). The k has even more distance to the letter above it. All the distances between the lines are different, which parts the title into "things you can't ask" and "yer mum". Reads super disjointed. The point of covers is to be able to read a title without thinking about it (maybe that's a designer issue) but it just visually overwhelms me?

Apart from that I don't understand why they didn't choose a layout reminiscent of the "chart-topping podcast". Surely you'd want people to recognize the cover and know it's related to the podcast? They have a lovely picture of the two on the stairs as their podcast thumbnail, why not use that or something similar. It looks cheap imo.

I used to work in book publishing. It's because 2 colour typography is cheaper and quicker to reproduce than color photos.
 
I'm a designer and this cover is so incredibly lazy, literally doable in five minutes. And not even well done either, why do they hate empty space? Typography needs a certain amount of space around it to look good but the title is really badly formatted. The first y almost touches the c below it, whereas the second y has a bit more distance to the letter underneath, although they are the same height (c & m). The k has even more distance to the letter above it. All the distances between the lines are different, which parts the title into "things you can't ask" and "yer mum". Reads super disjointed. The point of covers is to be able to read a title without thinking about it (maybe that's a designer issue) but it just visually overwhelms me?

Apart from that I don't understand why they didn't choose a layout reminiscent of the "chart-topping podcast". Surely you'd want people to recognize the cover and know it's related to the podcast? They have a lovely picture of the two on the stairs as their podcast thumbnail, why not use that or something similar. It looks cheap imo.
Incoming design rant Part II:
You know, I never looked that closely at the typography but you're absolutely right. It's tough to do a tight line-height using all lowercase when you have ascenders and descenders. I don't mind the typeface though, because the super-fine one they use on the podcast is a display font, and is barely readable over the photo (not to mention the kerning is awful). Also agree that all the other type besides the title is way too big. It looks like whoever designed it didn't bother to actually print out their comps--classic mistake when designing on a screen.

ETA: @MoniC if you thought the spacing was bad on the book cover, this earlier comp will give you a panic attack.
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The 3 of them thinking drinking is a personality trait! I read Hannah’s thread on here though and apparently she has a drinking problem so it probably doesn’t help to see Lizzy and Lindsey publicly idolising any alcoholic beverage they can get their hands on

Whats her thread called? Im curious because I am a big fan of her boyfriend, he is hilarious
 
I'm a designer and this cover is so incredibly lazy, literally doable in five minutes. And not even well done either, why do they hate empty space? Typography needs a certain amount of space around it to look good but the title is really badly formatted. The first y almost touches the c below it, whereas the second y has a bit more distance to the letter underneath, although they are the same height (c & m). The k has even more distance to the letter above it. All the distances between the lines are different, which parts the title into "things you can't ask" and "yer mum". Reads super disjointed. The point of covers is to be able to read a title without thinking about it (maybe that's a designer issue) but it just visually overwhelms me?

Apart from that I don't understand why they didn't choose a layout reminiscent of the "chart-topping podcast". Surely you'd want people to recognize the cover and know it's related to the podcast? They have a lovely picture of the two on the stairs as their podcast thumbnail, why not use that or something similar. It looks cheap imo.
Hahah it sounds like someone quoted them the price “1 font for £50 regardless of size”, so they went all in to pick the biggest font size
 
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