Liz Fraser #4 A Venetian pigeon stole her croissant

[burgundybrin]

I skimmed through it whilst doing chores. She does mention her retreat. How it isn't the sort of retreat where there's a fixed timetable, because who wants that? (I would if I'd paid money!)
It seems that she's encouraged them to go out, explore!
And apparently her next course in Oxford is on Wednesday.
She's got a hacking cough, and looks ... gaunt, let's say.

 

[Ginnyreturns]

I skimmed through it whilst doing chores. She does mention her retreat. How it isn't the sort of retreat where there's a fixed timetable, because who wants that? (I would if I'd paid money!)
It seems that she's encouraged them to go out, explore!
And apparently her next course in Oxford is on Wednesday.
She's got a hacking cough, and looks ... gaunt, let's say.

They sure are doing a lot of exploring and very little actual writing work aren't they? I still don't think they exist! And if they do, they've paid good money to basically do touristy things that they could have done anyway. Honestly, as a teacher of creative writing myself I'm completely horrified at the lack of professionalism going on here. It's a total rip-off. She's lazy, she doesn't want to put in the preparation or the work and that's what this whole excuse of going with the flow and lack of timetable is about. IT'S HARD WORK.

 

[ORhineORhine]

@Ginnyreturns She's always been a workshy fop! She just likes announcing things, publicising things, launching things and getting 'excited' about things and putting 'things' on her bio.

She rarely does any actual REAL work. Lazy mutha!

 

[Ginnyreturns]

@Ginnyreturns She's always been a workshy fop! She just likes announcing things, publicising things, launching things and getting 'excited' about things and putting 'things' on her bio.

She rarely does any actual REAL work. Lazy mutha!

Yes, definitely. If she wants to just walk around filming Venice and showing people stuff she should just accept that this is actually what she wants to do and stop promising so much to other people.

 

[Replyingnow]

In one video, how can one woman singlehandedly portrays a tourist revenue dependent city as so universally unappealing?

She highlights the graffiti which literally covers the city. I am shocked. Not creative graffiti. Gratuitous. This speaks volumes about the general discontent of the locals. Bags of litter and filth and streets and alleyways littered with dog sh’t. She even highlights how much is everywhere.


The city she has showcased appears rundown, dank, grey, unloved and unkempt, swarming with tourists dragging their suitcases, devoid of smiles or any joy from locals or visitors alike.

Not a single person on the writing retreat is in sight or joined the walk. Oddly, they choose to visit a lunatic asylum during their stay in Venice, a city unique for its canals, not its asylums. This choice seems peculiar, They can find lunatic asylums to visit elsewhere in the UK or the world yet opt to focus an entire day on this and then lie in bed, showing no interest in joining Liz on her edgy exploration of Venice's dark, dingy alleyways and tacky stalls.

They aren’t staying in her flat. She did a quick estate agents viewing before she left on her verbally rambling walk around the back streets. They’ve either seen as much of the rundown city as they can bear or have booked into the asylum for some sanctuary away from Liz’s insanity.

In her profanity laced dialogue she claims she has no anger or hate in her. What an odd thing to proclaim?

Don’t we assume people aren’t hate filled or we already know that they are? We know she is. She is a living case study of vitriolic hate in action!

Meanwhile, Liz claims her writing retreaters are so laid-back that her punctuality or attendance hardly matters to them.

“Just two nights ago”—remarkably only a day BEFORE their arrival—they delved into discussions about the flaws in the publishing world. They did or she did… to herself?

My some stroke of luck, ALL of them are published authors participating in the retreat to focus on historical novels. How is Liz going to help them? She’s not published fiction? During her walk, she demonstrates her limited vocabulary is reducing, the more and more she becomes isolated from people.

To top it all, she trying to hard sell flat rentals but showing the area as the most depressing and dilapidated district in any European city I've visited.

After watching this video, I find it hard to compare Venice favourably with Cambridge, Oxford, London, Bath, York, Manchester, Edinburgh…..

And just in case you think for a moment she might be slightly sane, she speaks French and with an American accent throughout the “walk” / calorie burn.

The tiny bit of empathy I can muster for her sees a desperately lonely, desperately troubled woman. She’s hoodwinked people into spending time with her (if any one is on the retreat, but then can’t cope with being with people because it’s just so alien to her.

A few pics to add joy to your lives… Absolute Grottsville.

 

[intriguedbythis]

“Just finished a 2-hour editorial group session, and while they go to have lunch I'm now back home in my flat, at my desk, editing the first 10,000 words of a client's manuscript.

We reconvene in an hour or two to discuss the day's writing progress and edits, then we're off up a campanile at sunset before a ride up the Grand Canal at night.”

I am sure we will see some beautiful photos of all the guests on the campanile and riding the canal this evening. Especially after the 90 minute treat this morning.

 

[Marstonroadmrs]

@Ginnyreturns She's always been a workshy fop! She just likes announcing things, publicising things, launching things and getting 'excited' about things and putting 'things' on her bio.

She rarely does any actual REAL work. Lazy mutha!

Like a child playing, as we say on repeat.

 

[Needham]

Glad to hear - for the millionth time - that Liz is living the dream and couldn’t be happier. Somehow I think that, when this is true, people tend not to feel the need to shout it from the rooftops CONSTANTLY.

 

[Marstonroadmrs]

They sure are doing a lot of exploring and very little actual writing work aren't they? I still don't think they exist! And if they do, they've paid good money to basically do touristy things that they could have done anyway. Honestly, as a teacher of creative writing myself I'm completely horrified at the lack of professionalism going on here. It's a total rip-off. She's lazy, she doesn't want to put in the preparation or the work and that's what this whole excuse of going with the flow and lack of timetable is about. IT'S HARD WORK.

“Go with the flow.” “Spontaneous.” In other words, “Unplanned.” “Out of depth.”

There has to be something tangible to justify the fee.

A course guide, handouts, takeaways, next steps, etc. I’ve never been on a course where I’ve not had something.

What about a branded notebook? Liz loves notebooks. A signed photo of her writing .

I look out for the TripAdvisor reviews!

 

[Ginnyreturns]

“Go with the flow.” “Spontaneous.” In other words, “Unplanned.” “Out of depth.”

There has to be something tangible to justify the fee.

A course guide, handouts, takeaways, next steps, etc. I’ve never been on a course where I’ve not had something.

What about a branded notebook? Liz loves notebooks. A signed photo of her writing .

I look out for the TripAdvisor reviews!

Very telling that the table in her flat, which in her promo material was covered in pens and notebooks for 'delegates' - was empty this morning. This is an absolute sham of a course. Should be reported.

 

[Marstonroadmrs]

Glad to hear - for the millionth time - that Liz is living the dream and couldn’t be happier. Somehow I think that, when this is true, people tend not to feel the need to shout it from the rooftops CONSTANTLY.

My life is pretty good. I have a fit husband in every sense, though he didn't show interest in you, did he, Liz? IYKNY.

People tell me I'm slim and attractive.

My kids may be average in achievements, but they outshine everything Liz’s have and will achieve by living happily with me and my husband, thriving and knowing we will both still be here in the morning and how to spell 'mother'!

Yet, if I must be brutally honest, my day-to-day existence tends toward the mundane.

After a week of work, I'm now waiting for the washing machine to finish spinning so I can hang up this load and start the next.

This morning, we took the kids to football and swimming.

One has a friend over this afternoon, while the other visits a friend to play.

They requested fajitas for dinner, which I’d rather not, but I easily give in for my kids.

Maybe I should abandon this life, purchase a selfie stick and fake happiness like Liz. Just how can she be happy? Her life is so empty to me.

 

[burgundybrin]

“Go with the flow.” “Spontaneous.” In other words, “Unplanned.” “Out of depth.”

There has to be something tangible to justify the fee.

A course guide, handouts, takeaways, next steps, etc. I’ve never been on a course where I’ve not had something.

What about a branded notebook? Liz loves notebooks. A signed photo of her writing .

I look out for the TripAdvisor reviews!

Or a tote bag.

 

[Ginnyreturns]

My life is pretty good. I have a fit husband in every sense, though he didn't show interest in you, did he, Liz? IYKNY.

People tell me I'm slim and attractive.

My kids may be average in achievements, but they outshine everything Liz’s have and will achieve by living happily with me and my husband, thriving and knowing we will both still be here in the morning and how to spell 'mother'!

Yet, if I must be brutally honest, my day-to-day existence tends toward the mundane.

After a week of work, I'm now waiting for the washing machine to finish spinning so I can hang up this load and start the next.

This morning, we took the kids to football and swimming.

One has a friend over this afternoon, while the other visits a friend to play.

They requested fajitas for dinner, which I’d rather not, but I easily give in for my kids.

Maybe I should abandon this life, purchase a selfie stick and fake happiness like Liz. Just how can she be happy? Her life is so empty to me.

That's a good, rounded life you describe there, with depth and purpose and family closeness. There's happiness in mundanity if you're with the right people. I'm packing up boxes to move house - deadly dull, but me and the hubs are making it fun. Oh - and I do the same as Liz for a living, but in a way which is private and real and undocumented on Insta.

 

[GoldenEagle]

I think regardless of what Priviliz does for a living she is desperate to be "famous".
She has put THIS need before everything in her life, even to the detriment of her own children.
She has "used and abused" men in the past to fund her or to get her up the ladder but this has had consequences and that's called karma!!
She is currently running around vienna like a sprung worn out chicken high on whatever antidepressants she takes - no delegates in sight .
She must be off her head if she thinks this is what is called a writing retreat - so a four day course someone has paid for and she has 90 min free to run round for her FOLLOWERS!! On a retreat weekend!!
It's totally absurd
It's clear her mental state is up to ninety thinking "agggg I must perform" how can I trick them cleaners !!!
Surprised they let her out the asylum!!

 

[Ginnyreturns]

I think regardless of what Priviliz does for a living she is desperate to be "famous".
She has put THIS need before everything in her life, even to the detriment of her own children.
She has "used and abused" men in the past to fund her or to get her up the ladder but this has had consequences and that's called karma!!
She is currently running around vienna like a sprung worn out chicken high on whatever antidepressants she takes - no delegates in sight .
She must be off her head if she thinks this is what is called a writing retreat - so a four day course someone has paid for and she has 90 min free to run round for her FOLLOWERS!! On a retreat weekend!!
It's totally absurd
It's clear her mental state is up to ninety thinking "agggg I must perform" how can I trick them cleaners !!!
Surprised they let her out the asylum!!

All she actually needed to do was step off social media for four days and we'd have assumed she was teaching her writing course. She's just made things a hundred times worse for herself, basically.
She's high on something (probably not anti-d's though, as they tend to dampen all that down!)

 

[intriguedbythis]

Now she says she’s going for a run before re meeting her retreat guests… err it’s after 3pm in Italy babe.. what a weird disjointed ‘retreat’ I would feel royally ripped off if I had paid for that.

 

[Ginnyreturns]

Now she says she’s going for a run before re meeting her retreat guests… err it’s after 3pm in Italy babe.. what a weird disjointed ‘retreat’ I would feel royally ripped off if I had paid for that.

It's not 'retreat' at all, although she appears to keep retreating from her clients. They must be mightily confused.

 

[Needham]

She’s being a mindfuck. I expect she has plenty of retreat pics that will be revealed, but for now she’s playing - doing a walk, having a run - to possibly make it look like there’s no retreat. The reason she has posted AT ALL this weekend is to play with Tattlers (her raison d’être these days) - that’s why she hasn’t stayed silent and opted for the easy way of looking like she’s on a retreat (if she isn’t). She wants a fight.

 

[Ginnyreturns]

She’s being a mindfuck. I expect she has plenty of retreat pics that will be revealed, but for now she’s playing - doing a walk, having a run - to possibly make it look like there’s no retreat. The reason she has posted AT ALL this weekend is to play with Tattlers (her raison d’être these days) - that’s why she hasn’t stayed silent and opted for the easy way of looking like she’s on a retreat (if she isn’t). She wants a fight.

If she reveals genuine photos of genuine delegates on a genuine retreat I will get on a plane to Venice, run round the city naked shouting FUCKYES and hold a workshop on how to draw palm trees.

 

[GoldenEagle]

I think the above poster is correct - she is just posting pure fckry as there is nothing to say what she is posting is reality.
She will pull out some fab pictures in a few days to contradict every comment made here.
All I can say is she is mentally unhinged!!
Childish playing games on her SM feed what an embarrassment.
To have publically said your doing a business retreat and then to post 90min during the day running round without them