Line of Duty #7

Do you want another Line of Duty series?

  • Yes

    Votes: 275 85.4%
  • No

    Votes: 47 14.6%

  • Total voters
    322
I enjoyed the finale but I feel Jed Mercurio butchered Kate’s character over the past 2 series like he had no idea what to do with her now she couldn’t go undercover. She became a plot device for MIT and Davidson.

Her major life changes between S5 and S6 were unexplained and we were left to draw our own conclusions (left AC-12, rift with Hastings, marriage collapsed, lost custody of her son). The Kate and Davidson storyline was dropped without any resolution despite her almost being murdered 2 days before (yes I checked .

I know Kate has always been written as cool and repressed and inexpressive but in S6 Vicky McClure’s face was working overtime to try and fill in the gaps (a credit to her acting - I love her).
I feel like apart from Lindsey Denton and the early series with Kate, the female characters tended to be a bit flat or forgotten about. Roz Huntley was just in a haze for most her tenure (I know she had MRSA but still), Jo Davidson always seemed closed to tears. I don’t know I feel like they were nearly always one note which was a shame.
 
The part when Kate was suddenly with the counsellor was an odd intersection too. And after solving the biggest case ever that they’ve been working on for 10 years - only 2 of them go the pub?? 😂
That bit with the counsellor was very weird, I thought something was going to revealed then and we’d find out Kate had been shagging Buckles and she was bent too or something. Seemed like a waste of a scene.
I reckon some of this (like the sparse pub scene) was to do with covid and filming, would like to know how much it effected the series and if they changed much because of it. 🤔
 
I was ok with the finale.

But imo overall the series was lacking.

Jo's character was wasted. There was no insight into what drove her and she was neatly forgiven and shipped off to witness protection.

Ryan was killed off too easily.

The box with all the murder weapons was like a parody - "quick let's wrap this up".

I thought Lee Banks was adamant his brother wasn't guilty of Gail's murder? And if Tony Gates' DNA was planted does that not call everything in the box into question?
 
That bit with the counsellor was very weird, I thought something was going to revealed then and we’d find out Kate had been shagging Buckles and she was bent too or something. Seemed like a waste of a scene.
I reckon some of this (like the sparse pub scene) was to do with covid and filming, would like to know how much it effected the series and if they changed much because of it. 🤔

i also did not get the counsellor part 🤷‍♀️
 
That bit with the counsellor was very weird, I thought something was going to revealed then and we’d find out Kate had been shagging Buckles and she was bent too or something. Seemed like a waste of a scene.
I reckon some of this (like the sparse pub scene) was to do with covid and filming, would like to know how much it effected the series and if they changed much because of it. 🤔

I thought the counsellor part was going to be where they addressed the Jo thing and she’d say something like “I led her on for the investigation and then she almost had me murdered” but no, she waffled on about Steve instead. It was weird.
 
@SootySweepAndSoo couldn’t quote you from the last thread. I was really disappointed last night I think I’d over hyped it in my head (10 years in the making) expecting something similar to “urgent exit required” like you have spent the day thinking and rewatched without sitting there expecting shoot outs etc. It really does make more sense now. It’s clever how Jed has done it. Makes you think further past H and what H stood for. It’s based on real policing and there will always be corruption and those at the top using their position to control and manipulate others who are vulnerable, stupid and greedy. Buckells was all three. He wanted to move up the police force doing very little work and rewatching from series 1 we will see this. I have a week off work next week. I plan on a full rewatch.

Totally agree with this.
As you say, I think that so many of us were expecting shoot outs, car chases and massive OOH! moments that we didn’t fully appreciate the cleverness of the ending.
Of course it was Buckells. The fact that a bumbling, seemingly incompetent man could rise to the top of a profession thanks to unseen hands and an ability to bullshit his way through everything is a perfect illustration of not only the way corruption can go unchallenged and unnoticed in the police service, but every other sector of society and government.
 
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The whole thing of ‘H’ began with the dying declaration of Matthew ‘Dot’ Cottan. H wasn't a Morse Code back then, it was just a plain simple “blink for the FIRST LETTER of his name” and it referred to Derek HILTON.

Cottan had lost almost all mental function (this happens when you’re dying after being shot 3 times). He wasn’t tapping Morse Code.

Remember what Buckells said? They worked in pairs starting with Thurwell and Fairbank (retired) then Cottan and HILTON. Therefore, this makes sense. No mention of curly blowdry Gill Biggeloe.

Hilton also died before AC-12 could arrest him so the the OCG took this as chance to frame Hastings as the big ‘H’ (come on, Hilton looked guilty as he knew he was ‘H’).

All this “******* bollox” about ‘H’ not being one person was Jed Mercurio trying to reverse engineer the plot to spin out an extra series.

He should have left it at Hilton and moved onto another storyline.
 
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The whole point of real kate speaking to the occy health man was to help out the WWW.

He confided in her that he was in a bit of shit due to his painkiller addiction. She told the OH man she was having a crap time in her personal life, and she had no one apart from her colleagues, and mentioned something like how much of a support he was. He being the WWW, which OH man would know as he could see from their records they worked together. She was putting the OH man in a position that if he were to remove the WWW from duty, he would be causing her issues as well as her support had gone.

There is probably a much easier way of saying that!

Yes, we def need a new plot.....

Definately
 
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The whole point of real kate speaking to the occy health man was to help out the WWW.

He confided in her that he was in a bit of shit due to his painkiller addiction. She told the OH man she was having a crap time in her personal life, and she had no one apart from her colleagues, and mentioned something like how much of a support he was. He being the WWW, which OH man would know as he could see from their records they worked together. She was putting the OH man in a position that if he were to remove the WWW from duty, he would be causing her issues as well as her support had gone.

There is probably a much easier way of saying that!
Yes that's exactly how I saw it too. She was telling occ health guy that Steve was essential to her being able to carry out her role too. Not sure whether that would carry any weight in his decision making, but that's what I took it to mean.
 
The idea wasn’t terrible, but the execution was.

Instead of Hastings talking to Carmichael at the end, we should have got him meeting with Osborne (seriously why did we only get him on the TV?!) to tell him about the Buckells revelation.

This should have been the real “finale” or showdown. Hastings speaks passionately about all the years he’s invested and the officers AC-12 have lost in their pursuit of nicking bent coppers. Osborne (powerfully) spells out that under no circumstances will there be a new inquiry because it’s bad for the public image of the police to be seen to have corrupt officers.

Osborne would just repeat what we were learning at the start of S1 (with the wrong flat raid) about how the police force is more concerned with its image than the right thing. He would rather have a few bent officers than damage their image.


Hearing this, Hastings can either:

A) Retire, knowing he’s fighting a losing battle, have an emotional scene where he tells Steve and Kate they should move on with their careers because it’s a waste of time serving yellow notices to officers over unpaid breakfasts etc as they won’t be allowed to do anything more. This is a good way to “end the show” forever imo.

B) Appeal his retirement, telling Kate and Steve while it may be opposed, it’s their duty to find and expose bent coppers and uphold the integrity of the force.


Just my opinion.
 
I was ok with the finale.

But imo overall the series was lacking.

Jo's character was wasted. There was no insight into what drove her and she was neatly forgiven and shipped off to witness protection.

Ryan was killed off too easily.

The box with all the murder weapons was like a parody - "quick let's wrap this up".

I thought Lee Banks was adamant his brother wasn't guilty of Gail's murder? And if Tony Gates' DNA was planted does that not call everything in the box into question?
Lee Banks was adamant his brother wouldn't have been mouthing off about it. Barely denied that his brother murdered GV
 
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