Liam Payne #3

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That seems pointless to close the thread People are discussing this over on secret celeb gossip too.
About the grief stages thing. I do believe you go through them. But not necessarily in the order they suggest it happens, and there is revisiting some stages too. The only thing that really helps is time. And sometimes that isn’t even much help.
 
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Liam Payne

Probably Harry and Zayn I’m not sure that’s the case. It was pretty clear they had their differences but I don’t believe for a second that they hated him.
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Liam Payne #2

Liam sadly passed away on Wednesday. We are sending so much love to his family, his little boy Bear, the one direction lads and anyone who was affected by this. Continue on as you were ❤
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Just seen this in an article ( someone asked earlier if he would have died instantly) and added a picture of the hotel to show just how high the balcony actually was

"In a fresh update today, preliminary results from toxicology tests of Mr Payne's remains have found traces of cocaine, benzodiazepine, crack cocaine and 'pink cocaine' - which is a combination of methamphetamine, ketamine and MDMA.

While tests on the substances – white powder, traces of chemical crystals and prescription medicines - found at his suite at the boutique hotel continue, results from a post mortem of his body have been completed.

It determined that the singer died instantly from multiple injuries after falling 45ft from the third floor"

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I’ve been thinking about this and how Liam tragically passed away. I’m an A&E nurse, and have seen a fair few falls/jumps. What strikes me is the report of his head injury. Generally if you jump you will have facial injuries. it sounds like he was taken to his hotel room and left inside. Perhaps they were holding the handle of the door or he assumed they’d locked it and He panicked as he knew they’d called the police. Obviously not of sound mind due to what he had taken, I think he’s climbed over the balcony to drop to the one below to escape. And has happened to fall backwards. It feels really wrong even thinking about this let alone talking about it, but in human nature we are inquisitive. And it’s just a thought I had. Regardless he was a very loved man, who’s little boy more than likely thought the world of him. Who’ll also grow up to be able to google his dad, which is sad 😢 May Liam rest in peace xx
 
waterfall2021 said:
I’ve been thinking about this and how Liam tragically passed away. I’m an A&E nurse, and have seen a fair few falls/jumps. What strikes me is the report of his head injury. Generally if you jump you will have facial injuries. it sounds like he was taken to his hotel room and left inside. Perhaps they were holding the handle of the door or he assumed they’d locked it and He panicked as he knew they’d called the police. Obviously not of sound mind due to what he had taken, I think he’s climbed over the balcony to drop to the one below to escape. And has happened to fall backwards. It feels really wrong even thinking about this let alone talking about it, but in human nature we are inquisitive. And it’s just a thought I had. Regardless he was a very loved man, who’s little boy more than likely thought the world of him. Who’ll also grow up to be able to google his dad, which is sad 😢 May Liam rest in peace xx
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I agree. With the hat, bag and shoes I 100% think now he was trying to get out of the hotel as they were locking him in he simply fell. Maybe he went to climb over to drop down and was facing toward the banister holding onto it and literally just fell and hit his head, I can’t understand any other way he would have landed the way he did. I think the hotel have a lot to answer for and I hope they are investigated thoroughly.
 
waterfall2021 said:
I’ve been thinking about this and how Liam tragically passed away. I’m an A&E nurse, and have seen a fair few falls/jumps. What strikes me is the report of his head injury. Generally if you jump you will have facial injuries. it sounds like he was taken to his hotel room and left inside. Perhaps they were holding the handle of the door or he assumed they’d locked it and He panicked as he knew they’d called the police. Obviously not of sound mind due to what he had taken, I think he’s climbed over the balcony to drop to the one below to escape. And has happened to fall backwards. It feels really wrong even thinking about this let alone talking about it, but in human nature we are inquisitive. And it’s just a thought I had. Regardless he was a very loved man, who’s little boy more than likely thought the world of him. Who’ll also grow up to be able to google his dad, which is sad 😢 May Liam rest in peace xx
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Yes i dont believe it was suicide at all, would have been easier to overdose in the room if that was the case. He obviously loved his family very much and doubt he would purposely inflict such a violent death on them as jumping from a 45 ft balcony. No i agree with you, either was sitting on the balcony and fell back, or more likely, grabbed his bag and thought he could manage the climb down but unfortunately fell to an immediate death
Also sure i read here or online that one of the guests at the hotel said they heard a male scream, well he wouldnt have screamed if it was a jump, but obviously would with an accidental fall... just so very very sad an end to a young life full of potential
 
whoareyouu said:
I think one of the reasons the thread should remain open is because it is allowing discussion of difficult topics regarding addiction. It’s opened my eyes.
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Think it'll probably close after the funeral as people wont have anything to 'discuss' after then....gosh its so sad
 
Summerdays123 said:
I wasn’t a massive one direction fan, like their songs and the songs they have done solo but since the news broke I have just felt so sad. I feel a bit silly for feeling as sad as I do. Perhaps it’s because I have a son, I don’t know but it’s all just so heartbreaking and can’t stop thinking of his family and little boy 😢
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Same, its like when robin williams died, a man acting happy in front of the world and to his fans but suffering so much inside and died alone and sad. Heartbreaking
 
It's crazy seeing how far he fell and then seeing how "neatly" he landed, for want of a better term. As a pp said, no facial injuries. He was just laid on his back like he'd slipped on ice. Apart from the obvious evidence of the head injury, it's not what you'd expect from someone who'd jumped from such a height. I suppose that just gives hope that it was relatively pain free.
 
Such a sad ending for someone so young. Perhaps it's possible Liam had borderline as well as bipolar adding to his struggles. No-one close to him should be blamed for the tragedy. It's very difficult and complex to recognise and understand the behaviours when you are young and in love with someone.

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jackolantern said:
I just feel really, really sad. I can’t get past it. I’m not usually so bothered by celeb deaths, but this just feels so, tragic. A sad life with a sad end. I wish he could have a do-over, I know it’s ridiculous but this just feels like a horrible, needless accident 💔
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Second this haven’t been able to get my mind off it since the news broke 💔 it’s unbelievablely tragic 31 is no age, it’s also upsetting that the online jokes against him have been relentless recently and it’s sad that’s all he had been seeing before he passed 😭 this whole thing has upset so many of us for many reasons it’s such a heartbreaking loss
 
It's so tragic. He seemed so hard on himself as well when you watch him in interviews I hope he had moments in his life where he was really happy and not being hard on himself. I remember watching them form one direction and following them on x factor, they weren't my kind of music and I actually would tease my friends over them, but out of all their auditions Liams is the only one I can still remember to this day he was just such a talent and its devasting to know this is where is story ends 💔
 
Shadowlands said:
It's crazy seeing how far he fell and then seeing how "neatly" he landed, for want of a better term. As a pp said, no facial injuries. He was just laid on his back like he'd slipped on ice. Apart from the obvious evidence of the head injury, it's not what you'd expect from someone who'd jumped from such a height. I suppose that just gives hope that it was relatively pain free.
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If he’d fallen onto concrete, the injuries would have been so traumatic that he would have had to be identified by tattoos. Looking at the image of his legs- his jeans have a dark stain around the lower leg and maybe suffered an open fracture of the left leg. Post mortem indicates a lot of internal bleeding - so ….??? Rib/spinal fractures. I’m glad he was out of it before he passed away
 
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