Kat Farmer DMBL40 #6 Chicken Fillets in her cheeks, behaving like Katie Price of Seven Oaks for weeks

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Isthatso? said:
I will say though, all my friends who embraced grey hair look a good ten years older than they are. One has beautiful skin I would have been pleased with in my thirties.

Yes, I realise that this is misogynistic cultural and societal pressure and it would be good to change it, but there you are.

So I’ll keep dying my hair and Kat can do the same. Although lop an inch off and use a hair mask once a week and start to care for it and it’ll look much better.

The colour doesn’t suit her skin tone- hence the orange bronzer, but fine.

She has changed in the last year, and I’m guessing she’s finding out what single in your fifties looks like. Hopefully, she calms down and starts taking care of herself and this becomes a blip.
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Oh lol, that reminds me of my Mumsnet days when there would be regular WAR over Grey Hair is Amazing vs Grey Hair is Ageing.

One side loudly claiming "I've never had so many compliments since letting my hair go grey! " and the other saying "Yeah it may be soft and we'll conditioned but they think you're 55, love"

The threads would go on for like 16 pages, with much defensive bitchiness.

And then a month later, there'd be another thread "Should I go grey?" and it'd all kick off again!
 
Isthatso? said:
show off!! 😂

23 I started going grey 🥲
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Same - as a student I went to get a cheap cut with a Vidal Sassoon hairdresser-in-training. As part of the process he had to write about my hair colour and condition for his records. I was fuming when he put 10% grey. Four decades later and I'm still dyeing it - I'll give up when I'm 100% grey but I know from lockdown that 1/4 dark brown and 3/4 white = nana hair.
 
Can't believe it's taken an actual hairdresser this long to work out that constantly dyeing the roots of a naturally dark haired, now greying, woman just isn't going to cut it.
Also, why do all these money piece/highlights/blonde bits end up looking frizzy orange? That's quite a skill - don't know it it's his or hers.

I wouldn't call her a stylist. She's just a woman who tries on a bunch of clothes, gurns and twitches at herself in the mirror and love love LOVES them all.
 
Soapy Dolphin said:
Can't believe it's taken an actual hairdresser this long to work out that constantly dyeing the roots of a naturally dark haired, now greying, woman just isn't going to cut it.
Also, why do all these money piece/highlights/blonde bits end up looking frizzy orange? That's quite a skill - don't know it it's his or hers.

I wouldn't call her a stylist. She's just a woman who tries on a bunch of clothes, gurns and twitches at herself in the mirror and love love LOVES them all.
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because her hair is naturally very dark and a warm very dark at that, any blonde that is put over it needs a shed load of toner on to cool it down? The toner doesn’t last for very long and will lift to a brassy orange tone, and if the wrong toner is applied at the beginning it will remain quite a warm blonde.
 
Soapy Dolphin said:
Also, why do all these money piece/highlights/blonde bits end up looking frizzy orange? That's quite a skill - don't know it it's his or hers.
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Sparklebox said:
because her hair is naturally very dark and a warm very dark at that, any blonde that is put over it needs a shed load of toner on to cool it down? The toner doesn’t last for very long and will lift to a brassy orange tone, and if the wrong toner is applied at the beginning it will remain quite a warm blonde.
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I wrote a whole post similar to Sparklebox and didn’t hit post. 🙃

My hairdresser (and Kat’s and Trinny’s for that matter) has transitioned my warm brown hair to a highlighted bronde to hide the grey at the roots.

I admit I don’t pay full attention when she explains things so I can’t remember exactly why the brassy orange happens, but I think it might be sunshine, swimming, our shower water and just the colour fading. Grey hair has a different texture and is often frizzy.

I do listen to her instructions which are to use a blue shampoo and conditioner with toner. She also puts a toner through my hair to counteract the brassiness most visits.

I wonder if Kat has a bathroom full of free luxury hair products which she uses randomly, even though she needs blue or purple products, so her colour is forever quickly fading to brassy orange?
 
Sparklebox said:
because her hair is naturally very dark and a warm very dark at that, any blonde that is put over it needs a shed load of toner on to cool it down? The toner doesn’t last for very long and will lift to a brassy orange tone, and if the wrong toner is applied at the beginning it will remain quite a warm blonde.
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exactly this, her hair is a warm brown like mine and every time I try to go lighter it ends up orange - not far removed from the peroxide shade we all spotted in the 80s.
 
I've always thought blue shampoo is for de oranging. Probably where she's going drastically wrong as it starts out blonde ish and quickly becomes dry orange and off she goes again to get it dyed and the cycle continues with her hair becoming even more damaged and lifeless every time.
 
Yep as a fair skinned, green eyed er greying brunette going blonde isn’t an option. I’m 10 days away from an appointment and hoping my height means few people can see the roots, and styling it out as intentional if people can 😂
 
Basically if the blonde isn't lifted enough in the first place the toner won't work, toners don't lift any colour out of the hair they are used to deposit tone.. but you have to have the right level of lift before you tone.. and as toners are only semi permanent they will fade and you are left with the pre tones colour underneath.. I'm a hairdresser
Libertine said:
I wrote a whole post similar to Sparklebox and didn’t hit post. 🙃

My hairdresser (and Kat’s and Trinny’s for that matter) has transitioned my warm brown hair to a highlighted bronde to hide the grey at the roots.

I admit I don’t pay full attention when she explains things so I can’t remember exactly why the brassy orange happens, but I think it might be sunshine, swimming, our shower water and just the colour fading. Grey hair has a different texture and is often frizzy.

I do listen to her instructions which are to use a blue shampoo and conditioner with toner. She also puts a toner through my hair to counteract the brassiness most visits.

I wonder if Kat has a bathroom full of free luxury hair products which she uses randomly, even though she needs blue or purple products, so her colour is forever quickly fading to brassy orange?
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What would I do with it?... I would cut 4 inches off straight away, I would add in some lowlights to break up the blonde then put a root tint on maybe one shade lighter than her natural colour, and also add some very fine baby lights around the face to lift it but not be too blonde too blocky or too brassy.. and definitely a toner in a neutral blonde just to clean it through
Vacuous said:
D78, what would you fobwirh kats hair ? I k ow nothing!!
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I be would bet that she’s not been listening to his advice and that’s the issue.

Kat also doesn’t really do anything proactive about looking after herself. It’s all fix it when it goes wrong. So filler and Botox rather than eating and drinking healthy with a consistent skin care routine. Not looking after her hair is actually on brand.
 
D78 said:
Basically if the blonde isn't lifted enough in the first place the toner won't work, toners don't lift any colour out of the hair they are used to deposit tone.. but you have to have the right level of lift before you tone.. and as toners are only semi permanent they will fade and you are left with the pre tones colour underneath.. I'm a hairdresser
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Thank you. 😊

I just tell my hairdresser to do what needs to be done then I use the products they suggest, which is why I don’t always listen carefully to the whys. 😂 My hair is in far better condition than Kat’s.
 
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