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Toffeebythesea said:
So I used to find her sleep advice really useful when I had my daughter in 2016. Flash forward to my recent newborn and WOW she's a twit. She preys on rich or celeb pregnant women by commenting, or on celebs with newborns. She barely gives any free advice anymore. There are ssoooooo many amazing insta sleep coaches now who give you so much free stuff as well as AFFORDABLE sleep guides that are up to date and not so old fashioned and based on the real science of sleep (my new fav is cozybabysleep but we all love takingcarababies too). Long story short, she's pretentious and like others have said it's all about business rather than actually helping people.
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Oh definitely! Hopefully people will start to see her for the power hungry madam she really is. Might be totally wrong because I don’t even follow her but isn’t takingcarababies another one who uses crying methods in her course?
 
justcryitoutmama said:
Oh definitely! Hopefully people will start to see her for the power hungry madam she really is. Might be totally wrong because I don’t even follow her but isn’t takingcarababies another one who uses crying methods in her course?
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I'm not sure to be honest, my babe is only 3 months so I've just been using their free bits of advice! Each to their own but I could never let my little one cry.
 
Quiet on here but had to share I bought x2 of her courses. It’s almost gotten worse! My daughter used to wake 4am on the dot, I’d bring her into bed and she’d sleep until 6/7. Since the course she was pinging awake at 4/5am and couldn’t be cuddled back to sleep. I was unsure if she needed less sleep but the course said “tweak naps” and all reviews used the word “tweak”. Well nothing worked and we’re back to co sleeping because at least we now both sleep until 6/7.
i can’t stand her smug little face and her mouth drives me up the wall
 
wakametango 2.0 said:
Quiet on here but had to share I bought x2 of her courses. It’s almost gotten worse! My daughter used to wake 4am on the dot, I’d bring her into bed and she’d sleep until 6/7. Since the course she was pinging awake at 4/5am and couldn’t be cuddled back to sleep. I was unsure if she needed less sleep but the course said “tweak naps” and all reviews used the word “tweak”. Well nothing worked and we’re back to co sleeping because at least we now both sleep until 6/7.
i can’t stand her smug little face and her mouth drives me up the wall
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Oh that is SO bad and so frustrating for you. She's meant to be an expert. i recently downloaded her free 4 month sleep regression guide. I know it's free but it was just information I could find on Google! She's such a twit . Most sleep coaches do offer really useful free bits nowadays.


Note at the bottom, if you need more support.. aka If you want to pay me 1000s for 1-1 support because that's the only way I'm actually going to help .. if you're rich
 

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Toffeebythesea said:
Oh that is SO bad and so frustrating for you. She's meant to be an expert. i recently downloaded her free 4 month sleep regression guide. I know it's free but it was just information I could find on Google! She's such a twit . Most sleep coaches do offer really useful free bits nowadays.
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Very frustrating! Granted my daughter was literally crawling up and down our bed laughing instead of relaxing so it has taught her to unwind and get herself off to sleep but she then didn’t want cuddles so when she was coming out of her deep sleep at 4/5 she couldn’t be rocked back to sleep.
i also emailed and asked where do I go as the course tells me to leave the room but we live in a one bed flat, she can touch me from her cot so how am I meant to get her to NOT want me at 4/5am?! Surely that’s simply human nature for a baby 😂
 
Yes that’s another huge flaw to the courses, she suggests to “tweak” the routines but gives absolutely no indication of how to do that? Ie if this happens try capping nap X by 15 minutes etc. The thing is that it’s not the routines that get babies “sleeping” 7-7 it’s the crying sleep training, their little bodies shut down as a protective mechanism to conserve energy. She always says this isn’t true but how on earth else does it work? She says they are “learning to fall asleep independently” but what other skill is learned whilst crying hysterically? It boils my blood.
What are the bets she’s in Mrs Hinch’s DMs offering free 1-1 support after she posted about how her children don’t STTN.
 
justcryitoutmama said:
Yes that’s another huge flaw to the courses, she suggests to “tweak” the routines but gives absolutely no indication of how to do that? Ie if this happens try capping nap X by 15 minutes etc. The thing is that it’s not the routines that get babies “sleeping” 7-7 it’s the crying sleep training, their little bodies shut down as a protective mechanism to conserve energy. She always says this isn’t true but how on earth else does it work? She says they are “learning to fall asleep independently” but what other skill is learned whilst crying hysterically? It boils my blood.
What are the bets she’s in Mrs Hinch’s DMs offering free 1-1 support after she posted about how her children don’t STTN.
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I agree, no idea what ‘tweak’ meant, no advice on how to get to one nap from two, completely ignoring the fact I can’t leave the room at 3am to leave her to settle.
 
justcryitoutmama said:
Sleep deprivation is so bloody hard. Unfortunately her advice starts and ends at leaving babies to cry.
Have you requested a refund?
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I didn’t, I’m too tired. My baby hasn’t learnt any self soothing skills and the minute she’s awake that’s it, she’s awake, crying for me and to start her day. No rocking and sssh’ing will get her back lol
 
wakametango 2.0 said:
I didn’t, I’m too tired. My baby hasn’t learnt any self soothing skills and the minute she’s awake that’s it, she’s awake, crying for me and to start her day. No rocking and sssh’ing will get her back lol
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I remember the days. It is so tough but they will eventually get there. My baby woke like 10 times a night and slowly got better after 16 months. I looked to just chill mama and ALMOST bought a course but I decided after looking at all her advice to just stop stressing and obsessing about sleep. I gave in to co-sleeping and didn’t track how many times my baby woke up. Got family to help with nights at the weekend so id have one solid night sleep. It was tit but I survived. I prefer the sleep influencers who make it clear that babies don’t sleep through and don’t charge money for courses.
 
Ashad said:
I remember the days. It is so tough but they will eventually get there. My baby woke like 10 times a night and slowly got better after 16 months. I looked to just chill mama and ALMOST bought a course but I decided after looking at all her advice to just stop stressing and obsessing about sleep. I gave in to co-sleeping and didn’t track how many times my baby woke up. Got family to help with nights at the weekend so id have one solid night sleep. It was tit but I survived. I prefer the sleep influencers who make it clear that babies don’t sleep through and don’t charge money for courses.
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4 more months to go 🤣 we’re only on 2 teeth so I feel like that will unsettle her each time too. How does baby B magically never get ill or wake in pain? Mine wakes with trapped wind if she eats too many grapes, lentils, teething, rsv, reflux, chest infection 😰😰
 
wakametango 2.0 said:
4 more months to go 🤣 we’re only on 2 teeth so I feel like that will unsettle her each time too. How does baby B magically never get ill or wake in pain? Mine wakes with trapped wind if she eats too many grapes, lentils, teething, rsv, reflux, chest infection 😰😰
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I find some comfort in the theory that wakeful babies tend to be intelligent 😅 baby B doesn’t exactly come across as the smartest cookie in the box 🫣
 
wakametango 2.0 said:
4 more months to go 🤣 we’re only on 2 teeth so I feel like that will unsettle her each time too. How does baby B magically never get ill or wake in pain? Mine wakes with trapped wind if she eats too many grapes, lentils, teething, rsv, reflux, chest infection 😰😰
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I guarantee you that baby B wakes up frequently because that's just what babies do. Even babies that sleep well wake up.
 
wakametango 2.0 said:
4 more months to go 🤣 we’re only on 2 teeth so I feel like that will unsettle her each time too. How does baby B magically never get ill or wake in pain? Mine wakes with trapped wind if she eats too many grapes, lentils, teething, rsv, reflux, chest infection 😰😰
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Loads of my friends who said their babies slept through or sleep trained them would fail to mention that actually they would have to pop in a few times a night to settle them or that actually they would wake up and cry and be ignored. I feel like the perspective on baby sleep is slowly changing and it’s common for it to be talked about that babies do not sleep well. I just dislike the baby sleep industry because every sleep trainer influencer I looked at had glowing reviews and I thought bullshit where are the ones that didn’t work. I would have more respect for them if they shared the fails and that actually some babies take longer to sleep through.
 
Ashad said:
Loads of my friends who said their babies slept through or sleep trained them would fail to mention that actually they would have to pop in a few times a night to settle them or that actually they would wake up and cry and be ignored. I feel like the perspective on baby sleep is slowly changing and it’s common for it to be talked about that babies do not sleep well. I just dislike the baby sleep industry because every sleep trainer influencer I looked at had glowing reviews and I thought bullshit where are the ones that didn’t work. I would have more respect for them if they shared the fails and that actually some babies take longer to sleep through.
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Or the ones who didn't get #gifted £1000s worth of sleep support from people like justchillmama! Who on earth could afford that
 
I don't particularly like Rosey as she comes across very smug.
But my daughter has slept reasonably well since about 8 months and very rarely wakes. We're VERY lucky but it makes me kind of sad that people think we must have abused her and ignored her for that to be the case. Yes we have left her to cry on occasion but only when we know she's really tired and us going in has always just worked her up more. She doesn't have attachment issues, she's a very bright, chatty girl. Sleep training isn't all about 'cry it out' and yes, babies waking IS normal, but my personal opinion is sleep deprivation isn't a rite of passage and no one should feel guilty for trying to get more sleep.
I bleeping abhor the charlatans charging hundreds for a pdf though.

Just my two cents
 
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