Jenny Apple

[skyeblue50]

seems to be a lot of over-analyzing things on here. all i see is a young mum going through the most incredibly difficult none of us could ever imagine. I don't question how she reacts or how people feel she should react. It is extremely sad to start seeing her sitting out of family events the latest being the mini-golf and she also missed Disneyland as it clashed with a hospital appointment. I was happy to hear her talk about her income - hell yes go and have a blast Jen and enjoy yourself girl, eat, drink and be merry! Anyway, fingers crossed for some good news which Jen is long over-due.

 

[Daisychain4]

I don't think Jennys set out to make money from her channel because her earlier videos was very sporadic. No ads, no merch, no selling viewers stuff.
I questioned when Jenny said the videos were for her children to have memories (the obvious question was why not set them to private?) but after spotting Jenny did indeed have a private video (the one I posted) which has now been made public, it answered my question.
I think Jenny & Tiffany are worlds apart, I honestly do.
There is no denying that money is being made from her channel. Jenny recently said "now that I have got an income" which I assume she means from her youtube channel. Does that mean she is cleverly curating content though?
I don't see any difference from her first video when she was diagnosed to most recent video? Other than perhaps accepting what stage 4 actually means.
Even in videos where I have felt a little awkward watching (example- mothers day) because as a viewer it felt like I was watching sentimental things which I feel should be private (why the children love their mummy), I questioned if the content was to pull on heartstrings, but after I visited very old videos (before diagnosis) I can see similar. I think it’s just Jennys & Kyles way of life?
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Daisy, you are showing you have a soft heart right here
Fancy coming to my house to clear the ladybirds from around my window frames?
It dropped cool here lastnight and I couldn't shut my windows because I'd end up squashing them. Softie me! Or silly bugger me laying in bed cold because I can't squash squatters that seem to love my window frames.
Childrens task for this weekend is to catch them all and take them outside.

Yes Saydee, very soft hearted, at times way too soft!
I just don’t suffer fools or scammers and some of the lies and deceit I see vloggers throw out there to generate an income is incomprehensible especially when cancer is the root of their evil.
Now for those ladybugs … put your hairdryer on cool and blow them away so you can close your window and stay warm!
I have seen a subtle change in Jenny these past few weeks but I think that has sorted itself after the hospital /pain issue that caused the ruckus. I absolutely agree that at the centre of all Jenny’s crying is complete fear for what the future holds. It is very sad.
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seems to be a lot of over-analyzing things on here. all i see is a young mum going through the most incredibly difficult none of us could ever imagine. I don't question how she reacts or how people feel she should react. It is extremely sad to start seeing her sitting out of family events the latest being the mini-golf and she also missed Disneyland as it clashed with a hospital appointment. I was happy to hear her talk about her income - hell yes go and have a blast Jen and enjoy yourself girl, eat, drink and be merry! Anyway, fingers crossed for some good news which Jen is long over-due.

Yes, Tattlers are good at analyzing and over analyzing. Everyone has their own view and take on videos and it is interesting to read how others see it. It certainly gives diverse perspective.
I too hope some good news is close. It’s long overdue for sure.

 

[c.sabatier]

I am one of those who is relatively new to Jenny's channel, as I have only watched her five latest videos. Although I plan to continue watching her channel, I will not be watching earlier videos mostly because I prefer current information.
Anyway, ye good ole' Tattlers have logical insight into Jenny's possible state of mind and are correct about the comparison with Tiffany: Jenny seems to be the polar opposite of Tiffany.
When I watch Jenny's videos, I feel calm and thoughts such as 'Everything is going to be OK', or 'No matter what, we all should keep trying and living as best we can'. For me, she is an encouraging force of life. Even though Jenny has cried in the videos I watched of hers, she is still on a treatment path and seemingly hopeful. If Jenny has hope, then I think it is possible to have hope in other life situations as well.

 

[Saydee]

seems to be a lot of over-analyzing things on here. all i see is a young mum going through the most incredibly difficult none of us could ever imagine. I don't question how she reacts or how people feel she should react. It is extremely sad to start seeing her sitting out of family events the latest being the mini-golf and she also missed Disneyland as it clashed with a hospital appointment. I was happy to hear her talk about her income - hell yes go and have a blast Jen and enjoy yourself girl, eat, drink and be merry! Anyway, fingers crossed for some good news which Jen is long over-due.

Thats a really stupid comment that you have wrote @ "None of us could ever imagine". You have no idea of what others are dealing with. I know at least 2 Tattle users that are facing Jennys situation.
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I am one of those who is relatively new to Jenny's channel, as I have only watched her five latest videos. Although I plan to continue watching her channel, I will not be watching earlier videos mostly because I prefer current information.
Anyway, ye good ole' Tattlers have logical insight into Jenny's possible state of mind and are correct about the comparison with Tiffany: Jenny seems to be the polar opposite of Tiffany.
When I watch Jenny's videos, I feel calm and thoughts such as 'Everything is going to be OK', or 'No matter what, we all should keep trying and living as best we can'. For me, she is an encouraging force of life. Even though Jenny has cried in the videos I watched of hers, she is still on a treatment path and seemingly hopeful. If Jenny has hope, then I think it is possible to have hope in other life situations as well.

If you have time I really do recommend that you watch Jennys older videos. It will give you a good understanding of where she is at, the treatments she's had, the symptoms she has dealt with and a good grasp of Journeys personality.
Unfortunately Jennys treatments are palliative treatments only, none will cure Jenny. Treatments to temp try control disease, rather than attack cancer. The curative option Jenny had was immunotherapy, but her body over responded and Jenny experienced grade 3 and grade 4 side effects, which meant Jenny had to stop treatment. Hopefully Jenny is matched to a trial which offers more than disease control. The other problem Jenny is facing is that her disease is mutating, and those mutations are resistant to current treatments. Jennys fluid in the pleural lining and pericardial sac isn't good at all.

 

[HairyBerries]

I recently had to be checked for an inoperable brain condition and I am so so beyond thankful there isn't anything like that wrong with me...so I kind of can't imagine what Jenny is going through or how cancer patients even manage day to day(I'm sure that's what the above poster meant), I was a wreck the day before my results, completely numb and scared


Her husband Kyle seems so sweet

 

[Saydee]

I recently had to be checked for an inoperable brain condition and I am so so beyond thankful there isn't anything like that wrong with me...so I kind of can't imagine what Jenny is going through or how cancer patients even manage day to day, I was a wreck the day before my results, completely numb and scared


Her husband Kyle seems so sweet

So sorry to read this and it's great to read your news. Unfortunately, not everyone gets the great scans results.
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Well done, Saydee! My sister and I are the same way. My sister takes any flies or spiders outside. She won’t step on an ant lol And I just saved a fly from drowning in a bowl of cat food that I put out for our stray cats lol ❤
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Jenny put out a new video a few hours ago. I feel so sorry for her. She’s talking about the side effects of this new treatment. She’s sad but she’s asking for prayers that this treatment will work, it sounds like she’s trying to remain hopeful ❤

I won't bore you. In short, I home stray cats which costs me a small fortune, but its worth it. I say 'home' but none of them come indoors. All live outdoors and all get along fine.
Why I am telling you this! I feed some of them wet food, some of them dry food, and some have special diet food if thats what the vets recommend.
Wet cat food is the worst in warmer months. I have had the fly stuck in the gravy too

 

[lucyricardo]

I hope that the new treatment Jenny is doing ends up working for her.
Besides clinical trials, does she have any other options? I got the impression she doesn't, but I do not know much about cancer treatment.

 

[HairyBerries]

I hope that the new treatment Jenny is doing ends up working for her.
Besides clinical trials, does she have any other options? I got the impression she doesn't, but I do not know much about cancer treatment.

Me too. I'm not sure if she does, I think there might already be cures for certain cancers but aren't on the market due to impurity or costs (they're too expensive currently) which is unbelievably sad.


I used to watch another YT'er Romee I think her name was? She is currently in remission from lung cancer I believe

 

[Saydee]

I hope that the new treatment Jenny is doing ends up working for her.
Besides clinical trials, does she have any other options? I got the impression she doesn't, but I do not know much about cancer treatment.

Oncologists sequence treatments (put them in an order).
I only have an understanding of UK treatments and NHS funding. I do know Jenny lives in the USA and the USA are ahead of the UK. When a treatment becomes available in the USA, it takes a while for it to become available in the UK. First the FDA have to approve a treatment. Then NICE National Institute for health care excellence make a decision on if the NHS can afford to use the treatment. Often NICE will reject applications based on treatment costs.
UK oncologists use 'lines' of treatment. Usually 1st, 2nd & 3rd line treatments. 1st line treatment is usually the best treatment available to the NHS at the time, and the one which gives the best results. After 1st line treatment either fails (disease progression), patient experiences grade 3 or 4 side effects and is removed from treatment, patients moves to second line treatment. Second and third line treatments are usually palliative treatments to control disease.

For example, if a UK patient is on line 3 treatment after exhausting lines 1 & 2. At this point disease is usually quite advanced due to previous treatments taking toll on the body and disease in general. If the USA discovered an amazing treatment and NICE agreed to fund it. That treatment always generally always goes to 1st line patients only. Second and third line patients can't have access to it. This is why we see so many gofundmes and people paying private to be able to access newer modern treatments that are only available to 1st line patients.

NICE have very strict rules!
If the UK is trialing a treatment, all patients are entitled to apply to trial for it. But the criteria is again set very high. Patients must have good bloods counts, no auto immune disease etc. Sometimes side effects from previous treatments will exclude them from trials. Some trials won't allow patients on trials if they have used steroids recently. Won't accept patients with brain mets, or patients that have had radiotherapy recently.
Many patients hope a trial comes along, but its rare that a patient meets the criteria.

I know USA patients have access to more treatments and more lines of treatments. Jenny said her oncologist was looking at 1 of 2 treatments and deciding which was the best for her. I hope that she would still have access to the other one if Jenny can't tolerate it or it doesn't work.

Jenny's current treatment is Amivantamab. The side effects noted in trials was rash and infusion reactions which Jenny is experiencing. Now this must mean if they are known side effects, there must be ways to manage those side effects.

According to a presentation at the European Lung Cancer Congress 2023 (Copenhagen, 29 March–1 April), the bispecific EGFR-MET monoclonal antibody, amivantamab led to a median overall survival of 23 months (95% confidence interval [CI] 18.5–29.5) among 114 patients with non-smallcell lung cancer (NSCLC) with EGFR Exon 20 insertion mutations after progression on platinum-based chemotherapy (Abstract 3O). At a median follow-up of 19.2 months, the overall response rate (ORR) was 37% (95% CI 28–46), median duration of response was 12.5 months (95% CI 6.9–19.3) and median progression-free survival was 6.9 months (95% CI 5.6–8.8). Rash (89%) and infusion-related reactions (67%) were the most frequently reported all-grade toxicities.

 

[lucyricardo]

Oncologists sequence treatments (put them in an order).
I only have an understanding of UK treatments and NHS funding. I do know Jenny lives in the USA and the USA are ahead of the UK. When a treatment becomes available in the USA, it takes a while for it to become available in the UK. First the FDA have to approve a treatment. Then NICE National Institute for health care excellence make a decision on if the NHS can afford to use the treatment. Often NICE will reject applications based on treatment costs.
UK oncologists use 'lines' of treatment. Usually 1st, 2nd & 3rd line treatments. 1st line treatment is usually the best treatment available to the NHS at the time, and the one which gives the best results. After 1st line treatment either fails (disease progression), patient experiences grade 3 or 4 side effects and is removed from treatment, patients moves to second line treatment. Second and third line treatments are usually palliative treatments to control disease.

For example, if a UK patient is on line 3 treatment after exhausting lines 1 & 2. At this point disease is usually quite advanced due to previous treatments taking toll on the body and disease in general. If the USA discovered an amazing treatment and NICE agreed to fund it. That treatment always generally always goes to 1st line patients only. Second and third line patients can't have access to it. This is why we see so many gofundmes and people paying private to be able to access newer modern treatments that are only available to 1st line patients.

NICE have very strict rules!
If the UK is trialing a treatment, all patients are entitled to apply to trial for it. But the criteria is again set very high. Patients must have good bloods counts, no auto immune disease etc. Sometimes side effects from previous treatments will exclude them from trials. Some trials won't allow patients on trials if they have used steroids recently. Won't accept patients with brain mets, or patients that have had radiotherapy recently.
Many patients hope a trial comes along, but its rare that a patient meets the criteria.

I know USA patients have access to more treatments and more lines of treatments. Jenny said her oncologist was looking at 1 of 2 treatments and deciding which was the best for her. I hope that she would still have access to the other one if Jenny can't tolerate it or it doesn't work.

Jenny's current treatment is Amivantamab. The side effects noted in trials was rash and infusion reactions which Jenny is experiencing. Now this must mean if they are known side effects, there must be ways to manage those side effects.

According to a presentation at the European Lung Cancer Congress 2023 (Copenhagen, 29 March–1 April), the bispecific EGFR-MET monoclonal antibody, amivantamab led to a median overall survival of 23 months (95% confidence interval [CI] 18.5–29.5) among 114 patients with non-smallcell lung cancer (NSCLC) with EGFR Exon 20 insertion mutations after progression on platinum-based chemotherapy (Abstract 3O). At a median follow-up of 19.2 months, the overall response rate (ORR) was 37% (95% CI 28–46), median duration of response was 12.5 months (95% CI 6.9–19.3) and median progression-free survival was 6.9 months (95% CI 5.6–8.8). Rash (89%) and infusion-related reactions (67%) were the most frequently reported all-grade toxicities.

Thanks so much for this detailed information. I didn't know how the treatment worked in the UK (I'm in the USA like Jenny). I appreciate you taking the time to write this. Jenny is very good at providing info as well (unlike Tiffany) but I sometimes get confused since she has been on many treatments and I don't always watch every minute of her videos.

 

[Turaj]

Me too. I'm not sure if she does, I think there might already be cures for certain cancers but aren't on the market due to impurity or costs (they're too expensive currently) which is unbelievably sad.


I used to watch another YT'er Romee I think her name was? She is currently in remission from lung cancer I believe

I follow Romee too...not sure how the cancers compare but she sure made a great recovery...now traveling the world and a very bright future ahead. So far things are going very well for her.

 

[Saydee]

Thanks so much for this detailed information. I didn't know how the treatment worked in the UK (I'm in the USA like Jenny). I appreciate you taking the time to write this. Jenny is very good at providing info as well (unlike Tiffany) but I sometimes get confused since she has been on many treatments and I don't always watch every minute of her videos.

I know, its such a shame that Jenny always ends up with rotten side effects. And when she gets a decent quality of life, the treatment isn't working It must be very difficult with 2 very young children and feeling poorly so much.
Tiffany was and is absolutely rubbish at providing info i agree I had to come here and tap into others knowledge to understand what Tiffany was dealing with. Some of Tiffanys youtube subscribers still aren't quite sure, one lady thinks Tiffany is wearing a stoma bag because shes had her stomach removed

 

[Daisychain4]

Me too. I'm not sure if she does, I think there might already be cures for certain cancers but aren't on the market due to impurity or costs (they're too expensive currently) which is unbelievably sad.


I used to watch another YT'er Romee I think her name was? She is currently in remission from lung cancer I believe

Yes Romee is such a delight. Her story thankfully has had a very positive and happy outcome to date and she is enjoying her well earned world holiday. Romee was very much like Jenny in providing timely and concise information about her health journey. There is learning in both their stories, very different to Princess Tiffany who has twisted and deceived at regular intervals to attract subscribers and increase revenue. Of course I fully understand that Jenny (and Romee) also vlog for an income, but at least their viewers are being validated along the way with regular updates be it negative or positive news.
I believe when money begins to overshadow their personal health concerns and battles, it’s time to take a break to concentrate on one’s health, but of course that’s just my view.

 

[BCrowl]

So sorry to read this and it's great to read your news. Unfortunately, not everyone gets the great scans results.
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I won't bore you. In short, I home stray cats which costs me a small fortune, but its worth it. I say 'home' but none of them come indoors. All live outdoors and all get along fine.
Why I am telling you this! I feed some of them wet food, some of them dry food, and some have special diet food if thats what the vets recommend.
Wet cat food is the worst in warmer months. I have had the fly stuck in the gravy too

Aww bless you, Saydee! We give ours wet and dry food. I know what you mean about a small fortune, but it is definitely worth it!

 

[Make sense of it!]

Oncologists sequence treatments (put them in an order).
I only have an understanding of UK treatments and NHS funding. I do know Jenny lives in the USA and the USA are ahead of the UK. When a treatment becomes available in the USA, it takes a while for it to become available in the UK. First the FDA have to approve a treatment. Then NICE National Institute for health care excellence make a decision on if the NHS can afford to use the treatment. Often NICE will reject applications based on treatment costs.
UK oncologists use 'lines' of treatment. Usually 1st, 2nd & 3rd line treatments. 1st line treatment is usually the best treatment available to the NHS at the time, and the one which gives the best results. After 1st line treatment either fails (disease progression), patient experiences grade 3 or 4 side effects and is removed from treatment, patients moves to second line treatment. Second and third line treatments are usually palliative treatments to control disease.

For example, if a UK patient is on line 3 treatment after exhausting lines 1 & 2. At this point disease is usually quite advanced due to previous treatments taking toll on the body and disease in general. If the USA discovered an amazing treatment and NICE agreed to fund it. That treatment always generally always goes to 1st line patients only. Second and third line patients can't have access to it. This is why we see so many gofundmes and people paying private to be able to access newer modern treatments that are only available to 1st line patients.

NICE have very strict rules!
If the UK is trialing a treatment, all patients are entitled to apply to trial for it. But the criteria is again set very high. Patients must have good bloods counts, no auto immune disease etc. Sometimes side effects from previous treatments will exclude them from trials. Some trials won't allow patients on trials if they have used steroids recently. Won't accept patients with brain mets, or patients that have had radiotherapy recently.
Many patients hope a trial comes along, but its rare that a patient meets the criteria.

I know USA patients have access to more treatments and more lines of treatments. Jenny said her oncologist was looking at 1 of 2 treatments and deciding which was the best for her. I hope that she would still have access to the other one if Jenny can't tolerate it or it doesn't work.

Jenny's current treatment is Amivantamab. The side effects noted in trials was rash and infusion reactions which Jenny is experiencing. Now this must mean if they are known side effects, there must be ways to manage those side effects.

According to a presentation at the European Lung Cancer Congress 2023 (Copenhagen, 29 March–1 April), the bispecific EGFR-MET monoclonal antibody, amivantamab led to a median overall survival of 23 months (95% confidence interval [CI] 18.5–29.5) among 114 patients with non-smallcell lung cancer (NSCLC) with EGFR Exon 20 insertion mutations after progression on platinum-based chemotherapy (Abstract 3O). At a median follow-up of 19.2 months, the overall response rate (ORR) was 37% (95% CI 28–46), median duration of response was 12.5 months (95% CI 6.9–19.3) and median progression-free survival was 6.9 months (95% CI 5.6–8.8). Rash (89%) and infusion-related reactions (67%) were the most frequently reported all-grade toxicities.

Saydee you are just a wealth of information, once again giving us all we need to understand so thankyou.
May l ask because l followed Jenny only briefly and haven't watched earlier videos, what does her prognosis look like, you mentioned palliative approach with treatment but often that can be for years and years, while l hear lots of talk about her kids being left without a mother and how sad it is to see Jenny suffering lm unsure if a time frame has ever been mentioned? I hope my question isn't triggering for you and lve tried to carefully word it to be sensitive to you and that not even Drs can predict because statistics are ever changing.

 

[skyeblue50]

Thats a really stupid comment that you have wrote @ "None of us could ever imagine". You have no idea of what others are dealing with. I know at least 2 Tattle users that are facing Jennys situation.
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If you have time I really do recommend that you watch Jennys older videos. It will give you a good understanding of where she is at, the treatments she's had, the symptoms she has dealt with and a good grasp of Journeys personality.
Unfortunately Jennys treatments are palliative treatments only, none will cure Jenny. Treatments to temp try control disease, rather than attack cancer. The curative option Jenny had was immunotherapy, but her body over responded and Jenny experienced grade 3 and grade 4 side effects, which meant Jenny had to stop treatment. Hopefully Jenny is matched to a trial which offers more than disease control. The other problem Jenny is facing is that her disease is mutating, and those mutations are resistant to current treatments. Jennys fluid in the pleural lining and pericardial sac isn't good at all.

it's not a stupid comment - it was a comment that could have used a more appropriate word such as 'some' or 'most'.

 

[ladyt7087]

I've watched Jenny for a while now. It seems the crying jags are more frequent now. Almost guaranteed to be in every vid. I do think the sad reality of what's coming is getting harder and harder for her to ignore. But what I truly don't understand is how filming such things and letting thousands of strangers see it is in any way helping you. I just don't get it at all. Maybe that's just me but I could never film myself crying, in pain and then post it on social media. Never.
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I've watched Jenny for a while now. It seems the crying jags are more frequent now. Almost guaranteed to be in every vid. I do think the sad reality of what's coming is getting harder and harder for her to ignore. But what I truly don't understand is how filming such things and letting thousands of strangers see it is in any way helping you. I just don't get it at all. Maybe that's just me but I could never film myself crying, in pain and then post it on social media. Never

 

[Saydee]

Saydee you are just a wealth of information, once again giving us all we need to understand so thankyou.
May l ask because l followed Jenny only briefly and haven't watched earlier videos, what does her prognosis look like, you mentioned palliative approach with treatment but often that can be for years and years, while l hear lots of talk about her kids being left without a mother and how sad it is to see Jenny suffering lm unsure if a time frame has ever been mentioned? I hope my question isn't triggering for you and lve tried to carefully word it to be sensitive to you and that not even Drs can predict because statistics are ever changing.

If Jenny had have tolerated immunotherapy she may have got to NED. I’ve seen quite a few patients have complete responses to immunotherapy, but those responses aren’t always durable. Palliative treatment can work for years yes, but it’s a very small percent of patients. Disease usually becomes resistant.
My personal belief of why some patients live a few years and others perhaps just months? I think where tumours are located play a massive part. When disease invades the lung and heart lining fluid starts accumulating and it’s not good. Ascites, pleural effusions and pericardial effusions have a poor prognosis.
Thats not to say patients can’t overcome it, the right treatment may very well resolve those effusions of Jenny’s! I so hope so.
I know a couple of months ago that Jenny hasn’t asked what her prognosis is and she said she didn’t want to know either.
Oncologists use a scoring system which can offers a rough timeframe, but I’m a believer that those are just stats. Many live way past a prognosis.
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I've watched Jenny for a while now. It seems the crying jags are more frequent now. Almost guaranteed to be in every vid. I do think the sad reality of what's coming is getting harder and harder for her to ignore. But what I truly don't understand is how filming such things and letting thousands of strangers see it is in any way helping you. I just don't get it at all. Maybe that's just me but I could never film myself crying, in pain and then post it on social media. Never.
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I've watched Jenny for a while now. It seems the crying jags are more frequent now. Almost guaranteed to be in every vid. I do think the sad reality of what's coming is getting harder and harder for her to ignore. But what I truly don't understand is how filming such things and letting thousands of strangers see it is in any way helping you. I just don't get it at all. Maybe that's just me but I could never film myself crying, in pain and then post it on social media. Never

I understand. I fight my tears around my friends and family because I much prefer to cry when I am alone. I couldn’t record myself crying, never mind publish it to the www.
Jenny recently learnt that her health team watch her videos. I hope that would never impact their thinking. Oncologists as much as they are there to treat patients, they do consider quality of life too. Jenny also recently mentioned that a fellow patient died, and it shocked Jenny because Jenny is poorlier than what her friend was.
There is an obvious change in Kyle too. Previously Jenny would look to Kyle and ask if she was going to be ok? If he thought scans would be good? Kyle always calmed Jenny down and always reassured her. Recently he is telling Jenny he is scared for results etc.When Jenny discusses leaving things behind for the kids he isn’t stopping her or trying to distract her mindset.
I feel sad for them both.

 

[Miriam3]

“Symptomatic malignant pleural effusion is a common clinical problem. This condition is associated with very high mortality, with life expectancy ranging from 3 to 12 months.”

Malignant Pleural Effusion: Diagnosis and Management - PubMed

Symptomatic malignant pleural effusion is a common clinical problem. This condition is associated with very high mortality, with life expectancy ranging from 3 to 12 months. Studies are contributing evidence on an increasing number of therapeutic options (therapeutic thoracentesis, thoracoscopic...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[Daisychain4]

I've watched Jenny for a while now. It seems the crying jags are more frequent now. Almost guaranteed to be in every vid. I do think the sad reality of what's coming is getting harder and harder for her to ignore. But what I truly don't understand is how filming such things and letting thousands of strangers see it is in any way helping you. I just don't get it at all. Maybe that's just me but I could never film myself crying, in pain and then post it on social media. Never.
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I've watched Jenny for a while now. It seems the crying jags are more frequent now. Almost guaranteed to be in every vid. I do think the sad reality of what's coming is getting harder and harder for her to ignore. But what I truly don't understand is how filming such things and letting thousands of strangers see it is in any way helping you. I just don't get it at all. Maybe that's just me but I could never film myself crying, in pain and then post it on social media. Never

The constant crying and filming is what significantly upset a lot of viewers. There were a few consecutive videos where the majority of film time was Jenny crying and sobbing. This is what started the negative feedback and some nasty comments which in turn upset Jenny again. I agree that filming yourself so distressed is not something most of us could even contemplate let alone do, it is just footage that most people do not need or want to see. However, it does seem to be a constant and regular occurrence in her journey so I guess Jenny believes it’s worthy of inclusion as it’s the real deal and that’s her true story, open and raw as it is.
As it was pointed out in a discussion in another thread (and one of the reasons why this thread was started) was the point and fact that be it Jenny or Tiffany or any other vlogger sharing their cancer journey, the goal is to create an income and I believe this then puts into perspective the reason why people sharing their stories include ‘the good, the bad and the ugly’ … it’s all about what generates good returns. Regardless of who we enjoy following, who pulls on our heart strings, who shares their story better or who seems like a lovely caring family; they are doing it for money and their content reflects what attracts the $$$. Like it or lump it, Jenny Apple appears to be no different but at least she does appear to be honest and genuine, open and at most, transparent about her cancer journey.