Jack Monroe #534 Fake an arthritis overdose

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ooosh a rough couple of days for guset - first an enjoyable Guardian-esque side eye from george mate, and now this academic is all up in her potatoes niche!

I don't want to speak disparagingly of the academic because I've never had to strike nor been employed somewhere where striking is even on the cards. I will say I am struck a little by the response, and the nature of the post itself I guess.

This isn't intended as a me-rail because I don't think I'm all that unique in not finding that meal all that out of the ordinary? tbh it's not that far from a pretty bog-standard lunch/dinner for me - as some fraus started mithering at the end of the last thread, it's usually a jacket-potato but I understand the spuds in question are likely from a foodbank. Not saying I eat it every day or that anybody should, but it's cheap and easy so features quite regularly in my 'go tos' (I am not a 'foodie' and don't have a particularly varied diet because I'm lazy and not all that food motivated - I eat to live if ugetme). I just can't work out where some of the pearl clutching (for want of a better phrase) is coming from - is it anger that this middle class man is having to eat potatoes and beans for dinner, is it that he had to use a foodbank, or is it a mix of both?

It's a bit of a tired comparison by now, but if anybody on the estate where I live (I rent privately but the majority is still social housing) were to share that photo with a much more benign caption simply stating it was their dinner, or perhaps even mentioning they'd been donated the potatoes by a foodbank but without any outrage implied, would it elicit the same response from those in the comments?

The chances are they wouldn't even see it, let alone be shocked/horrified/scandalised by it, right? which in itself is part of the point I am very clumsily trying to make - there are some groups where using foodbanks and being seen to be 'living on' certain foods is par for the course really, not great but to be expected and what can you do? 🤷‍♀️ And then there are some where as soon as they venture close to 'poverty' (read: they struggle for a bit) it's book deals and 'put a little something in your tip jar' and gofundmes and endless platitudes of 'my poor sweet tenderheart, this is truly awful news, how bewilderingly unthinkable, it simply cannot be so, how utterly deplorable!!!'

Am I completely off the mark here? Am I being a bleep?
I’m catching up while finishing my dinner of, erm, chips and baked beans, and nodding my head. The beans came from my local community pantry where I pay a fee for a bag/box of stuff that’s worth quite a lot more at RRP than I pay. Not quite a food bank, but those of us on tight budgets who have a community pantry nearby are very grateful to be able to get what’s basically subsidised groceries.

For all that poor academic fella might be missing his steak and french beans or whatever, a potato and legume based meal really isn’t out of the ordinary in the UK (or indeed other countries), most of us have been raised to a greater or lesser extent on some variation of it, it’s relatively nutritious when you break it down to its constituent parts.

Every time there’s a take like that it surprises me, yet I really shouldn’t be surprised by this point. I think I’ve at least learned now that it’s best not to mither on it too much or it eventually all ends up a bit Road to Wigan Pier, and tbh it’s a Monday night and we’re all too knackered for that innit.

Big up the ninnies by the way - am extremely pleased George M has effectively disowned Jack. Wouldn’t have happened without the forensic dissection of all her bullshit. Much love xx
 
That IG story poem has really got on my tits. Tbh, I kinda assumed she had some awareness of what she was doing with the regard to the grift etc etc, but she really truly doesn't think any of this is of own making at all, and it's going to be everyone else and their mother's fault as per bleeping usual.
 
Just to slightly defend boiled potatoes man… academia is extremely precarious employment until you “make it” and a lot of people end up decimating their savings moving up and down the country and internationally for short term jobs. This guy could be relatively new in post and not had time to accumulate a decent savings pot, especially living in the South East. He won’t be the only one.

However, I noted with interest that his post was QTed by the gen sec of UCU (another one on 6 figures who loves to wail about how working class she is) to basically ask for donations to the union strike fund, which is pretty well-furnished. Our man should be spending his time applying for help from that rather than tagging in Jack who doesn’t give a solitary duck about any striker and who CERTAINLY wouldn’t give the time of day to lecturers because they’re EXACTLY the sort of people who might tell her she needs to apply herself.

The boiled potatoes are just another roadside mum shock tactic to get the visuals going viral. Could’ve been a plate of chips and beans, but then fewer people would be clutching their pearls I guess.
Just to jump in with my two penn’orth - I know lots of people on fixed term contracts, no security, many relatively low-paid (i.e. not an SL), particularly those on the more research-focussed end, living from grant to grant.

ETA - Spud guy is a twit
 
Tbf it would be just like Jack to steamroll in with a half arsed uninformed take on the complicated and nuanced and at times thorny situation that is the UCU strikes, before recommending that he mix up the potatoes with some swamp beans and mackerel
Guset has two bullshit honorary PhDs so she knows as much about academia as cooking. If she wasn't on some kind of enforced social media detox she'd be allover that.
 
Just to slightly defend boiled potatoes man… academia is extremely precarious employment until you “make it” and a lot of people end up decimating their savings moving up and down the country and internationally for short term jobs. This guy could be relatively new in post and not had time to accumulate a decent savings pot, especially living in the South East. He won’t be the only one.

However, I noted with interest that his post was QTed by the gen sec of UCU (another one on 6 figures who loves to wail about how working class she is) to basically ask for donations to the union strike fund, which is pretty well-furnished. Our man should be spending his time applying for help from that rather than tagging in Jack who doesn’t give a solitary duck about any striker and who CERTAINLY wouldn’t give the time of day to lecturers because they’re EXACTLY the sort of people who might tell her she needs to apply herself.

The boiled potatoes are just another roadside mum shock tactic to get the visuals going viral. Could’ve been a plate of chips and beans, but then fewer people would be clutching their pearls I guess.

Thank you Goaty D, I was going to post the same thing about salaries. Job titles can be the same for both permanent and temporary academic staff, and the "average" salary is just that - an average. It doesn't indicate what a particular individual with that job title is earning.

That being said, Potato and Bean Man was a fool to tag guest in his post, since the only income she cares about is her own.
 




I dont know how big the venue is but i got to 200 tickets before i got bored.
 

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They’re wrong and are in for nasty surprise! I would never have a dyson again but back in the day I had two and the tools did not all interchange.
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I can’t keep up because my employer expects me to work. Urgh. However, I was thinking about the ‘military around the edges’ chat from the last thread. Do you reckon people have told her she acts like a right Sargent Major at times? I.e. a bossy, annoying fucker, and in Jacks inimitable way that’s become ‘military around the edges’?
is that even anything anyone anywhere has said, ever? It just sounds weird.
I’m catching up while finishing my dinner of, erm, chips and baked beans, and nodding my head. The beans came from my local community pantry where I pay a fee for a bag/box of stuff that’s worth quite a lot more at RRP than I pay. Not quite a food bank, but those of us on tight budgets who have a community pantry nearby are very grateful to be able to get what’s basically subsidised groceries.

For all that poor academic fella might be missing his steak and french beans or whatever, a potato and legume based meal really isn’t out of the ordinary in the UK (or indeed other countries), most of us have been raised to a greater or lesser extent on some variation of it, it’s relatively nutritious when you break it down to its constituent parts.

Every time there’s a take like that it surprises me, yet I really shouldn’t be surprised by this point. I think I’ve at least learned now that it’s best not to mither on it too much or it eventually all ends up a bit Road to Wigan Pier, and tbh it’s a Monday night and we’re all too knackered for that innit.

Big up the ninnies by the way - am extremely pleased George M has effectively disowned Jack. Wouldn’t have happened without the forensic dissection of all her bullshit. Much love xx
We are fortunate enough to use a food distribution project and feel very lucky, I give away what we can’t/won’t eat/don’t have room to store in the fridge. I’ve made a load of parsnip chips tonight for the same reason as you - we had three bags. One plus is not being able to get stuck in a food rut as what you get is so different week to week.
It’s struck me over and over that Guset could be widely sharing these projects and providing advice (which is one of the main reasons I realised she completely didn’t give a toss because she is not doing that and to my knowledge never had mentioned them), it can save so much money for people. I don’t get it at all. I’ll feed anyone, people I like, people I don’t like, I just think people should have access to food and it hurts me to think anyone is a hungry. Her “concern” only comes from a place of what she can get out of it (book sales, patreon and public honking), but it’s astonishing how many people seem to not see that she isn’t helping anyone but herself - financially anyway.
 
I reckon it's her that tells them, "What do you mean overbearing control freak? I'm just Military Around The Edges*, everyone says it. I am aren't I? Well, aren't I? etc etc"
I had a supervisor years ago who would have been described in those terms (not that exact term because it really isn't a phrase). But he had no service himself or in his family history, he was just a stickler for the company rules and walked very fast. It was a surprisingly effective cover for total incompetence. Really makes you think.

*I was going to acronymize this but MATE just feels... icky.

Another case of Guset taking out-of-date and out-of-context information from a film, probably a Vietnam war flick, or perhaps a book. Apart from a certain efficient way of speaking that I've found with officers, military personnel aren't abrupt and gruff, generally, apart from on the TV. I've found soldiers to be extremely polite people who tend to think of others very quickly.
 
The problem with social media posts designed to go viral regarding strikes is there's always someone who has to go full guset and overegg the pudding in an attempt to go viral. Potato and bean man has basically admitted it was performative poverty with his follow up posts, the RMT did something similar the other day posting about a ticket machine between two flights of stairs and therefore inaccessable to those with mobility issues. Then it turned out there were other machines away from the stairs.

Maybe this is the world now, forever warped by the era of bullshitters rising to the top (Trump and Johnson) and showing you can just lead with any old headline, it doesn't matter if it's disproved instantly.

I think if Big Dave wasn't bonafide military, guset would have been a walter mitty type. But she knows it would cross the line for him so instead she just uses military terminology once in a while and bloats her dad's service to paratrooper when his Royal Artillery batallion was simply attached to the Paras for an operation. Not heroic enough for interviews to simply have a good service record, she pumps it up no doubt to his embarassment. If he wasn't around to refute her disinformation campaign she'd probably be telling interviewers he was the fist man on the balcony during the Iranian Embassy siege.

I am not surprised she covets her bullshit PhDs as much as she does, when I double checked Big D's army records I realised he puts all 21 letters of his accolades in all correspondance at all times :ROFLMAO:
 
The problem with social media posts designed to go viral regarding strikes is there's always someone who has to go full guset and overegg the pudding in an attempt to go viral. Potato and bean man has basically admitted it was performative poverty with his follow up posts, the RMT did something similar the other day posting about a ticket machine between two flights of stairs and therefore inaccessable to those with mobility issues. Then it turned out there were other machines away from the stairs.

Maybe this is the world now, forever warped by the era of bullshitters rising to the top (Trump and Johnson) and showing you can just lead with any old headline, it doesn't matter if it's disproved instantly.

I think if Big Dave wasn't bonafide military, guset would have been a walter mitty type. But she knows it would cross the line for him so instead she just uses military terminology once in a while and bloats her dad's service to paratrooper when his Royal Artillery batallion was simply attached to the Paras for an operation. Not heroic enough for interviews to simply have a good service record, she pumps it up no doubt to his embarassment. If he wasn't around to refute her disinformation campaign she'd probably be telling interviewers he was the fist man on the balcony during the Iranian Embassy siege.

I am not surprised she covets her bullshit PhDs as much as she does, when I double checked Big D's army records I realised he puts all 21 letters of his accolades in all correspondance at all times :ROFLMAO:
What a knob! Both of them.
I don’t understand her honorary doctorate thing. You didn’t earn it! It’s nothing to be proud of. It doesn’t mean anything. I once won £150 of lovetoshop vouchers - I think in a random draw for answering a survey. It would be the same as me putting £150 lovetoshop after my name, as her honorary doctorate means as much, what a saddo.
 
I genuinely am baffled who would want to hear her speak? Even if they were a fan? She literally has nothing new to say ever. It is always her ancient made up history.
For well over 10 years she's been spewing out her quite unremarkable poverty story.

If someone will gladly part with actual cash in this economy to listen to a boring grifter rehash a nonsense Dickensian tale of ‘poverty’ that is riddled with inconsistencies/outright lies and bears no relevance to the current shitshow we’re drowning in, and to honk her way through a dull diatribe of easily-tweetable catchphrases while offering zero tangible advice or anything remotely helpful - they deserve the tit day out they get.
 
I genuinely am baffled who would want to hear her speak? Even if they were a fan? She literally has nothing new to say ever. It is always her ancient made up history.
For well over 10 years she's been spewing out her quite unremarkable poverty story.

Also, never mind what she's speaking of, it's literally just the voice honk that's intolerable, I can't do more than a couple of minutes and therefore have never actually watched / listened to any of her pov sobs.
 
What a knob! Both of them.
I don’t understand her honorary doctorate thing. You didn’t earn it! It’s nothing to be proud of. It doesn’t mean anything. I once won £150 of lovetoshop vouchers - I think in a random draw for answering a survey. It would be the same as me putting £150 lovetoshop after my name, as her honorary doctorate means as much, what a saddo.
Completely agree. I presume there are people out there who have done things worthy of an honarary doctorate. Guset is not one of them and unfortunately she is a person who sees it as some massive badge if honour/brag/ I'm better than You all see opportunity. I'd love to see her complete a degree or indeed anything. Never going to happen.
 
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