Jack Monroe #32 Shan't!

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I have a background I'm veterinary care and vet bills can run into their thousands and many people struggle to pay without insurances. Also last year my elderly neighbour spent an absolute fortune in vet fees trying to help out her cat only for her to be put down after a bill that I think got well well over thousand pounds. I know this because I took the cat for all her treatments and came out after one of them 400 pound poorer the car needed urgent treatment and the vet needed paying before I left the practice and I didn't have my neighbours details to pass on.

It frustrates me when people take on animals without thinking as they often struggle and then either dump them or put them back up for adoption. It not fair on the animal.
 
heretoreaditall2019 said:
I’m posting lots sorry guys but tbh seeing the photo of the kitten has made me quite anxious. Those aren’t bowed legs they’re entirely doubled over, I am obviously not a vet but seeing that image it’s clear the cat isn’t in great nick? This isn’t one for CSI internet like he needs the vet hospital tbqh?
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I know. I don't understand what she thinks she'll gain from people sharing random, possibly unapplicable bits of information about cats they've known which may have looked the same, but which may have entirely different issues than this wee one.
 
heretoreaditall2019 said:
I’m posting lots sorry guys but tbh seeing the photo of the kitten has made me quite anxious. Those aren’t bowed legs they’re entirely doubled over, I am obviously not a vet but seeing that image it’s clear the cat isn’t in great nick? This isn’t one for CSI internet like he needs the vet hospital tbqh?
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I love my cat, even though he totally despises me and has been sick on the bedroom floor which is lovely when you don't notice and tread on it with bare feet, we would never have adopted him if he had such a serious condition. And there are far better places to get advice than her Twitter account. Mumsnet, for example, have some very helpful and knowledgeable people.
 
FrumpyCat said:
I love my cat, even though he totally despises me and has been sick on the bedroom floor which is lovely when you don't notice and tread on it with bare feet, we would never have adopted him if he had such a serious condition. And there are far better places to get advice than her Twitter account. Mumsnet, for example, have some very helpful and knowledgeable people.
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Same. If I had unlimited funds I'd want to help animals in this way. But you have to be able to tell yourself when you're not in the best position to care for an animal, rather than letting your heart run away with you. It's not fair on the animals to do that.
 
I'm curious to know where she is going to find the time to care for this wee kitten who is obviously going to need alot of looking after depending on what kind of treatment if any can be offered and we all know Jack works eleventy billion hours a week, has her son who she now has zero childcare for, her admin is on furlough and she is over run with work, would be fine if the kitten was just a regular kitten but the poor wee baby isn't just a kitten... Plus she is isn't rich, she doesn't have a pot of rainy day money just sat in the bank apparently...
 
I steal names said:
I know. I don't understand what she thinks she'll gain from people sharing random, possibly unapplicable bits of information about cats they've known which may have looked the same, but which may have entirely different issues than this wee one.
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In fairness that cat may be ok, I know a cat that had a twisted spine and was able to live to a good old age and was pretty agile, however orthopedics are one of the priciest of vet treatments. I used to help out alot with cruciate ligament replacement as well as other bone ops and those bills got to dizzying heights.
 
This might not be a particularly popular opinion but that poor little mite should just be put to sleep.

What's the point? It can't rationalise that endless surgeries/wearing splints/aquatherapy(?!?) is all for its own good. It doesn't have hopes and dreams for the future. It will just be scared and in pain.

(I don't hate animals. I have a dog I love very much. And that's why I would never make him go through extensive medical treatment. He doesn't give a duck about tomorrow, he's happy dogging about and the second he can't do that, he'll be sad. And then who am I making him suffer for other than myself?)
 
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Gentlemensrelish said:
This might not be a particularly popular opinion but that poor little mite should just be put to sleep.

What's the point? It can't rationalise that endless surgeries/wearing splints/aquatherapy(?!?) is all for its own good. It doesn't have hopes and dreams for the future. It will just be scared and in pain.

(I don't hate animals. I have a dog I love very much. And that's why I would never make him go through extensive medical treatment. He doesn't give a duck about tomorrow, he's happy dogging about and the second he can't do that, he'll be sad. And then who would I am I making him suffer for other than myself?)
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I agree completely I’ve been trying to think of a way to say the same and keep deleting it for fear of seeming like a witch. I think the same applies for humans, there’s a point between quality of life & length of life isn’t there and it’s cruel to make anyone suffer needlessly.

The kitten is clearly uninsurable. I’m going to hazard a guess that you don’t go from such a severe bend in bone to a fully functioning limb in one operation, or even one years worth of ops, so it’ll likely cost thousands? In an ideal world you’d spend unlimited sums on keeping everyone alive forever but the world doesn’t work like that sadly.

It is just so hugely uncomfortable to witness. You’d hope any adult would know better than to pursue these endeavours without professional oversight, it’s really bizarre behaviour.
 
heretoreaditall2019 said:
I agree completely I’ve been trying to think of a way to say the same and keep deleting it for fear of seeming like a witch. I think the same applies for humans, there’s a point between quality of life & length of life isn’t there and it’s cruel to make anyone suffer needlessly.

The kitten is clearly uninsurable. I’m going to hazard a guess that you don’t go from such a severe bend in bone to a fully functioning limb in one operation, or even one years worth of ops, so it’ll likely cost thousands? In an ideal world you’d spend unlimited sums on keeping everyone alive forever but the world doesn’t work like that sadly.

It is just so hugely uncomfortable to witness. You’d hope any adult would know better than to pursue these endeavours without professional oversight, it’s really bizarre behaviour.
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Animals live in the moment, they are not got to know operations and splints etc are going to make them better, all they know is that they are in pain.I
 
Blurp said:
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She’s not known as vonny bravo anymore. Been vonny le clerc for quite some time now.
 
It's not a bad opinion at all. Sometimes owners keep their animal going just because they cannot let them go. It's very sad all round. Sometimes the vets have to give them a gentle nudge into doing the right thing for their pet. Also I would just like to add that part of the cats treatment last year was on her broken pelvis, as she got run over it seems to trigger underlying health issues and the cat sadly passed away. That's the other thing she would need to watch for if the disease of the legs is due to inbreeding there is probably a whole host of things underlying with the kitten too. Ie bad heart, kidney failure( a popular ailment in cats) diabetes
 
I steal names said:
For me, it'd depend on the level of treatment needed, and whether this cat is in discomfort. I have two cats and a dog, and I've always said I wouldn't put any of them through things like chemotherapy, or older animals through big operations.
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Yeah, my dog is 10 and slowing down a bit so there's been time to consider the future and what I do/don't think is reasonable. For example, he got a bit of an old man prostate so had a quick little one day procedure for that but if it was cancerous, I was just going to let him flop about happily and let it run its course. (It wasn't, he continues to flop about happily).

Lots of people on Twitter are saying 'the vet/RSPCA (etc.) will tell you to have it put down but don't listen to them'. Why? Because vets famously hate animals?
 
I follow a few dog rescues on Facebook and there was a dog I believe rescued from Romania to a shelter in England who looked as if he had the same condition as this cat. Am pretty sure he was a young dog, two or so. I believe his legs were straightened after an operation and he was rehomed.
 
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